258 "Revenge of the Nephilim" ft. Ed Mabrie, Satan's little season, Book of Revelation, watchmen on the wall, Epstein victims

Brothers and sisters, tonight we have Ed Marbrie from the Faith by Reason website breaking down what I call “Revenge of the Nephilim” and how that may play out according to his interpretation of the Book of Revelation. Ed's website is loaded with edifying information for you and I highly suggest you get over there and have a look around and possibly sign up for one of his courses. Ed's April 2026 Spiritual Warfare Course - https://faithbyreason.net/spiritual-warfare-course-pre-launch-sign-up/

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SPEAKER_07 0:36

Institutional agency depending on your right. Welcome to the dangerous in the podcast. Jesse James is an outcast.

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Jesse James.

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Dangerous, dangerous state. Stable blasted battle.

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It's a democracy and is our allies.

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Yes, we are.

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Explain to me what you see as you know why you target a way of a grudge against the Israelis.

SPEAKER_02 1:29

The grudge is not necessarily a grudge. It's an objective assessment that no one will have the courage to speak about. This may be you don't want to hear. I don't know. And I certainly don't want to hurt you on your show. You're one of the best, you're fair. But I believe that Israel has a powerful strangold on the American government. They control both members of the House, the House and the Senate. They have us involved in wars in which we have little or no interest. Are children coming back and body bags? And if you open your mouth, you get targeted. And if they don't meet you at the poll, they'll put you in prison. They are controlling much of our foreign policy. They're influencing much of our domestic policy. They push definitely, definitely to try and get Bush before you left to move into Iran. Everybody's afraid to say it. They control much of the media, they control much of the commerce of the country, and they controlled both bodies of the Congress. They own the Congress. No, I'm not. That's exactly what they're going to think. We have a one-sided foreign policy in the Mid East, and we've alienated Arabs who have no way of fighting. So what they've done, and I predicted this on the House floor, is they would export violence to America, and they have. They have no other way to fight. I'm saying this to you right now. Israel gets approximately $15 billion a year from the American taxpayers. That $15 billion is $30,000 for every man, woman, and child. People in my district are losing their pension benefits.

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SPEAKER_05 4:03

Yes, you guys, it is February 23rd, 2026. Looks like the last Monday night of February as we're moving right along through this winter time. Welcome to the spiritual and the cultural battle of our lives, where truth is dangerous and information is a weapon. That's right, you guys. Welcome to the Dangerous Info Podcast. I'm Jesse James and he's Outcast. And coming up tonight, we have a big episode, episode number 258, featuring Ed Mar uh Ed Mabry, Revenge of the Nephilim. You guys, Revenge of the Nephilim outcast, what I'm saying with Ed tonight. It's gonna be crazy. What's going on, brother?

SPEAKER_04 4:44

Hey, I am glad to be here and blessed in the battle.

SPEAKER_05 4:47

You know, uh we're all happy to be blessed in the battle. And and uh, you know, it's it's crazy that how the Nephilim stuff keeps coming around. It's old, it's ancient, and it just we you know, we get into it every year, and how it never really goes away because it's it's related, those biblical Nephilim spirits are still alive and well today, and people that are running things and doing things and putting things in our face and laughing at us and make making us pay taxes outcasts. That's what I'm saying. It's crazy what's happening.

SPEAKER_04 5:24

And as uh Timothy Alberino puts it, um, the book of Enoch is the Rosetta Stone for understanding the Bible. Um, it everything comes back to it because it answers a ton of questions that we were left blind to fumble around and try to figure out when we were younger. That's right. Right? Why did God command the Israelites to slaughter all these other tribes? Why, you know, where do the who are the demonics, where do they come from? Um, these are questions that we have had vague or little answers to our whole lives, even in those of us who are in the church, but this answers it. Yeah. And uh to have somebody like Ed Mabrian uh is a blessing because he's gonna probably shed more light and help us to connect more dots. I just had a random conversation today about the Nephilim myself with uh a new friend named Connie. I had no idea that was gonna happen today. And that was a that was a pleasure to meet somebody with a open mind and a curious heart. And um, I don't know, it was it was awesome. But it like I said, it it it's the key. A lot of people right now are are are freaked out. They don't know what to make of this. Um not that not Connie, Connie doesn't fall in this category, but a lot of people out there are just seeing the Epstein files for the first time. They're like, what is this? Yeah, how does and how do you I mean if you don't understand that we're in an ancient battle and and that there's a spiritual warfare and that blood is currency in the in the unseen realm, how are you supposed to comprehend what what what evil lurks in these people's minds? You can't unless you understand how old the battle is, right?

SPEAKER_05 6:47

Yeah, it's it's an old, it's an ancient battle, and uh, you know, uh Ed's here to shed some more light on it. Again, you know, I see everybody's filing into the chat rooms. I see Rumble and YouTube and Pill.net, and we have uh BitChute and Twitch. Welcome in, everybody. I'm glad to have you all here. Hicktown Honey says, I saw the Bible in color after Ed's videos and studying him. Uh Ms. Melody says, I'm excited about this episode. Yeah, I think we all are a little bit, you know. Um he's been a busy guy in the in the last couple last month, last few weeks, you know, so it's been it's been wild, but um he's uh he's getting ready to come on. He'll be in our green room shortly. And uh just excited, outcast. We got uh about 20 minutes uh before he gets in here. But um listen, we've got quite a bit of stuff to talk about. And you just touched on the Nephilim thing. Um do you want to talk about what you you just touched there with your friend? Was it Connie you said?

SPEAKER_04 7:40

Yeah, so so I have a customer. Um her and uh let me explain here. It's it's a doctor that I call on, and and the doctor's wife runs to the practice, and they're both awake on a lot of stuff. Um, they do enjoy coming to me to get a little deeper dive and a little bit more connecting of the dots. Yeah. Um and over when we we did our first episode or uh earliest episodes that we did on the Nephilim, I sent this to my friend who I'll I'll spare their names because I don't know if they want to be mentioned on there or not. Uh this doctor and his wife, and then they forwarded to their neighbor named Connie. And lo and behold, today I was in their office and Connie was in there, and they was like, Oh, we want you to meet somebody. So I went back, and this, you know, wow, she was getting she was waiting for her eyes to dilate, they put drops in to open up your pupils so the doctor can look in. And it takes about 20 minutes sometimes. So I went back there and they closed the closed the door, and me and Connie just had time to talk and ask her, and she was asking some questions, and she knew a lot, she's been down a lot of rabbit holes, but there was a few connect the dot issues that were, you know, I was helping her make the correlation. And she was a great listener because I'm a big talker. And uh she's very hungry, and I just by the time I was done, I I felt like I had a new friend. Her husband was there too. I I met him for a minute, he seemed like a really cool guy, too. And I was just like, Connie, it's always a pleasure to to meet somebody with a beautiful open mind like yours. So, you know, I'm not telling her how to think, I just giving her things to think about, right? Yeah. And not every a lot of people aren't receptive to that. They're very resistant, they're you know, oh, that's weird. And but not people like Connie. And then after I left that office, I went to another office and this newer person that was working there comes up and she's like, Hey, I just want to introduce introduce myself. I'm new here, and we get talking, and I don't know how it came up, but there was something I wanted to say that I thought she's not gonna know where this is coming from. And I just said, Listen, I just got a full disclosure. I want you to know who you're talking to here. I said, I I kind of identify as a Christian conspiracy theorist. And she said, Oh, she goes, Do you listen to blurry creatures? And I'm like, I do. So that was a uh a really fun. So I had two people today. It was very, very stimulating today. I got I got a run for my money talking to people who knew what was up and we got to compare notes. Yeah, it's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_05 9:39

That's good. Well, that's good. So people are talking in their chat room. Uh okay. Tina, Tina says, uh, hey y'all, it's cold again here in Michigan. And then uh yeah, um, says chilly in Wisconsin too, says music lovers. So welcome in everybody. Yeah, winter is back, winter's return, and so has uh outcast red pill stories. So uh we might have another one. We might have another one too later on, uh, because you told me some some stuff earlier, but uh we can get into any of that stuff. You know, last week's show. Oh, what are you drinking out of there, outcast? Looks like a brand new dangerous mug right there. What is that?

SPEAKER_04 10:13

I use this to I use this to start conversations.

SPEAKER_05 10:16

Awesome. Look at that brand new cup. So yeah, obviously, look at that, you guys. Look at that brand new coffee mug. It has a lid on it, stainless steel inside, says blessed in the bat on the outside, our logo on the other side. Oh, that's awesome. Let's um Outcast took possession of all this mug merch, tumblers, mugs, and uh over the weekend, and you have them all. We'll have to go through some things and go get them ready. But look at that, they're in hand now, you guys. Look at that tall mug uh tumbler. That's a good one. Was that 20 20 some ounce? Blessed in the battle on the back. I like it. That's very nice. Oh, I can't believe we have finished product now, you guys. Look at that. Finished product. You know, soon we we'll get all this stuff in order in inventory and and uh get get it ready and and and show you guys how if you want to make a purchase and support the show with the tumblers, the coffee mugs, uh and anything else that we might have coming up. So uh we'll let you know all that once we get all this in order, but so glad to have it. We're one step closer, outcast, to having some merch ready to go out the door. Uh excellent. And I big big shout out to Matt, dangerous Matt down there in North Carolina for taking care of us and uh doing that. So um we're gonna get some pictures taken uh of the things, and uh we'll let you know where you can purchase those once we get everything up and ready. Music Lover says beautiful. She has she likes them. So happy about that stuff, outcast. Be able to get that. Uh I like what you said there, the uh conversational starters. So I like it. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 11:49

And and and Matt has a very high quality uh standard of quality. He was methodical about how the laser etching looked and uh they look really tight. I don't know it, I don't know if it translated on the camera at all, but they they look great.

SPEAKER_05 12:01

Good, good. No, we'll we'll get some pictures. Um when uh you know what we'll we'll get to get together, is what I'm saying, okay. So good. I'm excited. A um uh a story from last week. Uh we we talked about Nicole Curtis, you know, local gal here. And uh if you guys remember that, uh you know, HD TV, they booted and all that stuff for just saying the word, uh, you know, what she said and everything. Everybody knows what I'm talking about. Um well she called me. She called me then. Um I'm music lover, yeah. It's only been a few years. Hey, cut it out. Been busy, all right? Uh finally have the merch. But but yeah, uh Nicole Curtis, she called, and I talked to her for probably 20 minutes. That was last week, Tuesday, after uh the show came out on Monday. So listen, she's all good. Um, yeah, the the the HGT thing is is is over, but um she's all good. She just wanted to let everybody know, hey, you know, she's she's doing her thing, and um uh there's a lot of haters out there. Not you know, it's it's life, it's part of life. Okay, she's all good. Her neighbors that she lives with, she she actually lives in Detroit, and she has neighbors who know what is going on. They're like, oh, listen, girl, don't worry about that stuff. These people just out there trying to, you know, make make something out of nothing. Uh so so it's she look, she's all good. She's good, you guys. Go ahead, okay.

SPEAKER_04 13:24

Did she express that she appreciated how we we talked about on the show, how we just oh yeah, yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_05 13:29

She she really liked it. That's you know, when she heard it, because I sent her the link to this, the YouTube link to this, and she listened to it and she's like, wow, that's really good. I'm glad you guys, you know, handled it the way you did. Uh, you know, so uh, you know, because she's been getting so much hate over the last whatever, but you know, she's got support too. Uh, you know, it was an honest mistake. She wasn't, you know, nothing was directed personally at anybody, and and her neighbors that know her personal neighbors and friends, they know that. Okay. Uh they didn't get triggered by you know something, and you know, it just happens. They know the real her. Okay. What we saw on there was just, oh dang it, drop something. You know what I mean? But it came out a little different, a little colorful.

SPEAKER_04 14:08

But I mean, I don't I don't have an agenda by saying this, but it's amazing how much power we give words. I know, man. And and and that's that's that's a trope because this is a country that was founded on free speech. So you can see how they use it to to weaponize us or against our constitution to say, yeah, but some things are taboo. You can't say that. It's a f you know, and it's like not that I I condone saying mean things to anybody as a Christian, that's not our goal. Uh and she didn't say it to anybody, it's not like she did anything like that. It's just that, you know, at the end of the day, it's free speech. You know, you might get your feelings hurt, you might be offended, but uh, we can't sit there and go, well, who's who's gonna be the big decider of what words you can and cannot use, right?

SPEAKER_05 14:48

Yep. Well, you know, people like you said, they weaponize words, so they weaponize things and um, you know, trying to trying to put boundaries on what people can say and can't say, you know, and and we're not about that, you know what I mean? And there was no malicious intent, there was nothing like that about there. And most of these people who are complaining and going and going crazy are completely out of context. They have no no idea what context the word came out. Okay, that's the biggest problem I have is like they see a word somewhere online, they think, oh, somebody said somebody called somebody this. No, didn't happen that way. All right, it did not happen that way. Before you jump off and go crazy like a like a cat and a laser, you gotta understand the context of what was said and what what happened and how it went down. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 15:32

And taking that footage and sitting on it for four years is highly suspect. I mean, that's well, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 15:37

We talked about that too. Uh so this story's not dead, I imagine. There's some things gonna come out. I can't, I'm not gonna say much uh more than what I'm already saying, but uh that other than she's it she's she's okay, she's in a good spot, and uh she will, you know, with time, she will come back. And uh she's smart and she knows uh how to handle this situation, so it's fine.

SPEAKER_04 15:59

God's got another plan for her, he's got a new chapter for that.

SPEAKER_05 16:01

That's right. That's right. So um let me see. We have okay, lately. Uh okay, we have been you, myself, uh, you know, my I can say more about myself, about listening to other podcasts and listen things that we listen to. When you're driving in your truck, if you're working, doing things, whatever it is. Um, I used to be a music guy. I used to just listen to music all the time. I used to be a sports guy. I went through that whole sports phase for a while, right? And uh after a while I realize I'm just wasting time if I'm listening to this sports stuff. Every now and then I'll go back to listen to music because it changes our mood. Whatever mood you want to go to, there's music for you for that, right? But um lately in the last two, well, for years now, it's been podcasts. I've been just listening, binge watch podcasts every day, four, five, six, seven years now. Um, just two weeks ago, I started listening to completely different podcasts, and I haven't listened to the old ones that I want, uh have been listening to, you know, all the conspiracy ones, all the political ones. I just haven't done it. Um, hey, this is Tammy Krogmeyer. Krogmeyer? Is that how you say that, Outcast? She says, I want a Tumblr. Hello, everyone. I always watch, but not always live. Well, good to have you here, Tammy. Welcome to the party. Welcome, good to see you here. And uh yeah, we'll make all the information known uh once we get the tumblers up and ready to go. Um, but um, yeah, I haven't listened outcast to any of my normal regular routine podcasts. I've did it on purpose. What I've done is I'm listening to more entrepreneurship and business development type podcasts for the last two weeks. I have not gone to any of that. None of my Sasquatch stuff, none of the, you know, uh political stuff, none of it. I just I felt burnt out, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_04 17:48

I've been I've been feeling it too.

SPEAKER_05 17:49

So I I've gone over this and it's given me new, fresh uh perspective on things. You know, uh being a business owner to myself business owner myself, um, just listening to other business owners talk and all this and kind of resetting and refreshing and doing all that stuff. So I'm into that. Um, you know, I'm still that good old conspiracy theory still hurt, right? But um uh I just I'm taking a break. That's all. I just go back and forth. Um right now, and I'll just run this program out until you know the the entrepreneurship and the business development stuff until I'm had enough, and then I would go back and mix the other stuff in. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 18:23

No, I've I've had it, uh, yeah, I've been feeling a little burned out too. And I normally, my wife is always like, You should listen to Christian radio. And I'm like, I did that, you know, I did that for 10 years. I listened to uh WMUZ the Light and Bob Duco and that kind of stuff. And I said, and or maybe longer than 10 years, 15 years, and I got burned out on it. Uh, but there's been a weird thing happening the last couple weeks uh since she said that. I'll get in my car and I'll have a Christian song in my head, yeah, or phrase in my head, and I'll look at my radio on. Uh well, I have my radio on, but I have the volume down, and I'll look and it's the and I'll turn it up and it's the song that I was just singing in my head. Isn't that crazy? That's been happening. That happened to me three times last week.

SPEAKER_05 18:59

Yeah, that happens a lot to me too. It's wild, man. Uh Hick Town Honey says, Yeah, I feel that sometimes I just turn on 80s country music and take a break. Yeah, exactly. Uh I was on a bench for a while with um old Alabama and uh George Strait. And I just ran that for a while until I got sick of that and went to something else. I'll go back to that later. But uh yeah, that's that's fun stuff, man. I I really like and enjoy all that stuff. But I'm you know what? That's tough. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 19:25

Oh, go ahead. I was gonna say I might have to return it to some Johnny Cash here soon. I I've taken a break from him for a while.

SPEAKER_05 19:30

Fire Doug, what's going on? Fire Doug over here in uh Rumble. He says, It's funny, Jesse. I have been on an American history learning kick for quite some time. Love it. Okay, so so let me tell you guys something. Uh the way that we listen to things and the way that we pick up things, and you know, like Doug said right here, American history. This is exactly how kids learn. All right, kids get interested in one thing and we should run that out until they get sick of it, they'll come back later, then they'll move to the next thing. That's exactly how our children should be learning. Okay, not 45 minutes to an hour on this. Go, you know, a bell rings, go over here and listen to something else that you're not interested in. Kids are gonna do bad in some some some subjects. They're gonna excel in others. The way to learn is exactly what we're doing right here, outcast. And we're still at heart. Nobody told me to do this stuff. It's a gut feeling. It's like I I had enough of this, I'm going to entrepreneurship, business development, or 80s music, or whatever it is, or you know, American history. So that's our natural way of learning. It's because it's a passion in us, it's something we want to do. Okay. It's um we feel it. Okay. We we actually we feel it. Like like like uh Hick Towns. Just I feel that. Yeah, we all feel what we want to listen to at that time. Just like you said, outcast. Sometimes you want to listen to some some some Christian music or some 444 Hertz music or you know, 432, whatever it is. Um and you seek it out and you do it because something up here is telling you you need to go listen to that stuff. The same way you get hungry or thirsty, it's the same thing that happens with the way you want to learn. Uh I'm telling you, the our school system does not embrace that at all. Uh it's wild. Uh, music lover talks about um I've reduced how much I take in from podcasts, sprinkling in some humor from ninjas and butterfly uh our butterflies helps, but everything has Christian show uh hosts. Yeah, that's good. Um and Firedark says, yeah, it keeps my old brain fires, uh my own brain cylinders firing too. Yeah, I hear you. Awesome. Yep, it keeps everything fresh. You know, you get you and you'll come back around. Everything's cyclical, right? It all comes back around.

SPEAKER_04 21:42

Speaking of which, I I I used to be deep into Scottish history. I've been taking a break from it. And the other night I was watching Turner Classic movies, and they had Mary of Scotland, which is Mary Queen of Scots, uh, with uh Catherine Hepburn, 1940s, I believe, early 1940s. Man, that was good. And it gives you a really interesting overview of how King and Queenships work and how well how skeezy and sleazy they are too. Yeah. Boy, it was it's a pretty interesting movie to watch. Old school.

SPEAKER_05 22:08

Good. You know, it it's like Christmas time in that whole Christmas season. I'm always into um miracle on Fort 34th Street. Uh I'm seeking I'm looking for it. I've got an old VCR tape of it somewhere. And uh, you know, I'll look for it. I'll pull it out there, you know, right around Halloween time and I'll I'll get it ready because nobody else in the house wants to watch it, so I gotta watch it alone when I'm you know I'm here alone, you know what I mean. But I can sit there and just throw some coffee on and light up a candle and watch that. And just every time I I watch that, I get new meaning out of the show. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, I see it. I see what they're trying to say. But um uh, you know, that that's exactly how it goes. So I'll case what um while we're sitting here, we have uh a green room guest is getting ready right now. So why don't you uh do you have anything more to say on that or should we go into our prayer and get ready? What do you want to do, Brother?

SPEAKER_04 22:58

It's up to you. Yeah, yeah, I think we should probably uh let's see what's 726. Yeah, I guess we should probably tee up the with a prayer.

SPEAKER_05 23:04

Yeah, we got over all that stuff. It eventually we'll we'll get into this other clip about a uh a local guy talking about the uh how he's fed up with this data center stuff that these uh so he takes it to a city council around here and he lets the city council know how he and everybody else in the room feels. So we'll save that for after our guest tonight, and we'll get into that and then have a little discussion on that because uh, you know, these data centers, I don't know, you guys, they're coming around, they're coming to your town, is what I'm saying. So all right, Alcast. Coming in hot. Let's let's bow our head, brother.

SPEAKER_04 23:33

Okay. Dear Heavenly Father, Adonai, El Shade, Elohim, Jehovah Rapha, Jehovah Nisi, um, Lord of heaven and earth, we love you and we worship you. We praise your name and we thank you for every gift and every blessing. We thank you for protecting us on the road as we drive for our jobs. We thank you for putting your blessing upon our families and loved ones. We thank you for all that you're teaching us and showing us and molding us into. We thank you for helping us to understand who you are and who we are in you, and that we are your tabernacle, that you dwell within us, and wherever we go and we gather, we are the church, Lord. We thank you for these revelations. We thank you for every um person that you've put in our life to encourage us and speak truth to us in our times of searching and our time of need. We thank you for every Christian brother and sister that you've put in our path and in our life. Lord, we um we thank you for your hedge of protection, your mighty hedge of protection. We we plead the blood of Jesus Christ over every listener in earshot of my voice right now, um, over our families, over our work life, over our homes, from the crowns of our head to the soles of our feet. We we ask for the precious blood of Jesus Christ to cover us, Lord. May the enemy be deterred and frightened when we walk into the room. May we be the ones who offer deliverance to those who need it. May we uh stand in authority, the authority that you gave us as the Holy Spirit indwells us, Lord. We reject and rebuke any curse, hex, vex, voodoo, evil assignment, witchcraft, sorcery, spell, anything that has been set against us, Lord, we pray that you will send it back to the center sevenfold, and that they will be given pause and cause to get on their knees and repent and become grafted into the family of Christ, so that they may become as ardently for you as they once were against you. Lord, we thank you for your guidance onto the narrow path and being a lamp at our feet and a light on that path. We thank you for the yoke of Christ that shares our burdens and guides us towards the narrow gate. We thank you for this extended family that we have through this podcast. Every single person who listens and participates, even in the smallest minutiae of levels, people who who donate and people who don't, but they they contribute ideas and thoughts and suggestions and constructive criticism. Lord, we thank you for every single one of them. And we pray that you will meet them right where they are in their need. I pray, Lord, that you will help every single one of us conquer our fleshly desires and our addictions and the things of this world that take our eyes off of you. Forgive us, O Lord, when we stray away. But never, never forsake us, Lord. We know you won't, but we we just ask that you keep calling out to us and reminding us to return to you for real truth, real peace, real guidance and real love. Lord, we thank you for for forgiving us and teaching us to forgive. We thank you for um for loving us and teaching us to love others. We thank you for healing us and helping us to show other people towards you and the healing that you can provide in their lives. We thank you for breaking our generational curses and strongholds of iniquity in our family lines and setting us free and putting us on solid ground with you, Jesus. Lord, we thank you for um this podcast. We thank you for our guest tonight, Ed Mabry, Lord. He is a man of God who loves your holy word, who digs deep, is not afraid to talk about the weird stuff with us, Lord. We thank you for the knowledge that he brings and the light that he shines in the darkness. And we pray that you will anoint Ed, myself, and Jesse in our conversation so that the listener is edified and gratified and that they learn something new that they can write on the tablet of their heart and apply to their everyday ministry. Lord, anoint our ministry and appoint our steps every single day. Lord, I pray for anybody out there that is dealing with physical ailments, emotional or spiritual ailments, Lord, we pray that you will be their healer, that they will open their heart up to you so that you can enter in and work as the great physician and start healing every soul wound. And the first step, Lord, is forgiveness. Lord, we we forgive everybody who's wronged us. We're gonna continue to say this until we really mean it, Lord. We forgive every person that has wronged us, and we pray that you'll sift us out and show us any grudge that you will sift it up towards the top and help us to see it so we can recognize it, address it, and bring it to you so that we can let it go and walk in true forgiveness and true light and true life and go into the world and shine your light as we're supposed to. Oh Lord, have your way in us tonight. Move into every listener's heart and mind. Give us wisdom and discernment and and help us to be strong and bold in our stance and strong in our witness to everyone we talk to. Maybe we be ready, ready to speak about you whenever any opportunity arises. May we be every word in our from our mouth be seasoned with grace and seasoned with salt so that the listener is edified and drawn closer to you. Sift us, O Lord. Show us if there's any pride in us whatsoever. May you increase as we decrease in all of these requests. May you may you be magnified and glorified in the answerings of these prayers. Protect us from technical glitches and difficulties that sometimes arise on the show. Uh, keep the prince of the air at bay. Send out your angels regarding each and every single one of us. Send out an angel to guard each door doorway, every entranceway to our home. And we thank you for all that you've delivered us from and all that you've delivered us through, the things we may not even know about. I pray all these things in the in Jesus Christ's precious, precious and holy name. Amen.

SPEAKER_05 28:54

Amen, brother. Thank you. Thank you so much. And uh that was good, brother. Another laser. Look, like I always say, you guys, he's got the the most fire uh prayers in the podcast game today, is what I'm saying, Alcast. Listen, let's go on a very short break, and on the other side of this break, we'll come back with our new guest tonight. And uh, Alcast, I think I'm gonna skip on all the other things. We'll just go right into our bumper and get him on right away. We'll be right back, you guys. This is the Dangerous Info Podcast. Alright, you guys, welcome back to the show, brothers and sisters. Listen, tonight we have Ed Mabry from the Faith by Reason website breaking down what I call revenge of the Nephilim and how that may play out according to his interpretation of the book of Revelation. Ed's website, you guys, it's loaded with edifying information for you, and I highly suggest you guys get over there and have a look around, possibly sign up for one of his courses. We're gonna talk about that in just a little bit. Go check out faith by reason.net, you guys. Tonight we have Ed here. Ed Mabry, what's going on, brother? Ed right there. How you doing, brother? I'm good. How are you? Good, good. I'm gonna try to work on you.

SPEAKER_03 30:14

No, this is fine. This is this is my actual real real life background. I usually have another background now, but this is fine. I just made sure I tidied up a little bit.

SPEAKER_05 30:21

Okay, no, it looks great. Outcast. Here's Ed. Ed, this is Outcast. He heard his prayer right there.

SPEAKER_03 30:26

Yeah, welcome to the show, Ed. Thank you. Thank you for having me. I appreciate it.

SPEAKER_05 30:30

You know, I bet you've been a busy, busy guy. Yeah, I bet you've been a busy guy in the last month or so.

SPEAKER_03 30:36

And uh listen, yeah, yeah, there's been a you're you're out there spreading on, but yeah, it's all good.

SPEAKER_05 30:41

I I uh I'm so glad that you're here with us tonight. Um, you know, there's a lot of people in the chat rooms here are excited too because they they've read your work, uh, they've heard from you. And uh, you know, I'm I'm just excited to get everything going, you know, and um your intro there, and I talked about the the uh the revenge of the Nephilim and how that can apply to us today. I mean, in the opening of the show, I was just talking with Howcast about uh how how these these these these ancient you know uh uh spirits are still messing with us today and and and and how people actually need to understand that. So uh, you know, that that might be a place we'll we'll end up today sometime. So welcome to the show, Ed. Good to see you, brother.

SPEAKER_03 31:23

Sure, yeah, good to see you. I'm glad to be here. And I'm yeah, I'm happy to talk all about ever all things Nephilim as it relates to Revelation, where I which I think we're uh headed towards the I think we're already in some of those times, and I think we're heading in heading deeper into it. Yeah, and also Genesis, because we have to start where the Nephilim started, and they started there as well. And so, yeah, so there's there's a lot to talk about, and I'm happy to get into it to whatever degree we want to.

SPEAKER_05 31:46

You know, we did some uh uh we we the one interesting thing to take that I like, and and it took me back and forth. I've heard we talked about the ne uh uh the little season, Satan's little season before. Then I heard you talk about it. And it just, you know, I I'm taking everything in, Ed. Uh, and and I really like your breakdown of what you did. And maybe we might be able to touch on that too. Outcast, he's got some really good stuff. I think you heard about that already. And um it makes you think again, it's like, okay, I can see how people are flip-flopped and and don't maybe haven't taken in this part of the information and the timelines and things might not so listen, Ed, it's all over the place. We are all over the place, too. Is what I'm saying. So everything is open. We talk about it.

SPEAKER_03 32:32

Go in any direction you want. If you want to have a little little season talk, we can do that and then get your NFLM or the other way around.

SPEAKER_05 32:38

Why don't we start there? Yeah, let's start right there with the uh the little season, then we can work our way to the uh into the to the epoch of the show, right?

SPEAKER_03 32:46

Sounds good.

SPEAKER_05 32:47

So hey Outcast, do you have anything to ask specifically to Ed about this uh little season stuff?

SPEAKER_04 32:56

I was gonna say, you know, Ed is so good, uh, so articulate and good at expressing his views. I was gonna say, Ed, could you do a quick breakdown of of what the little season stance is and the biggest holes that you have that, you know, from your biblical knowledge that you see in it, in the most um, you know, introductory level for people who may be new to this idea?

SPEAKER_03 33:17

Sure. So um, the only place in the Bible where you actually see this period of time that's referred to as the little season is in Revelation chapter 20. So just to set up where where what's happening in that period of time, this is right after the Battle of Armageddon. We've had the period of time that Christians call the tribulation, the time of Jacob's trouble, the the um the seventh week of Daniel. All the judgments have happened, the bowls of wrath have been poured out, and then finally the antichrist and his false prophet gather the armies together to battle uh against Jesus. He comes down, he defeats them. And then it says that after he defeats them, he casts the Antichrist and the false prophet into hell, into Gehenna. But doesn't do that to Satan. To Satan, he has a different fate. He is chained up and he is thrown into the bottomless pit, the abuso, for 1,000 years. And then after the thousand years is up, it says he will be released for a little season. And that's where we get this term little season, the only place in the Bible where we see it. Now there's some other things happening concurrently. So this is a thousand-year kingdom in which Jesus will rule and reign with his saints. It says very clearly who these saints are. They are uh believers who have been resurrected. They have either they've been martyred for Jesus during the time of the tribulation, or they have believed in Jesus at some time in the past and they are dead. They are brought back and they were brought back to rule and reign with him, and they and they will never die. They're immortal. So these saints have immortal bodies that are just like the body that Jesus had when he rose from the dead. Jesus is called the first fruits of the resurrection. And among other things, Jesus is um in his resurrected body, which these saints will have. They're again, they're immortal, they occupy a higher dimension. Jesus was able to enter and leave rooms without using a door or window. And scientists have said that, I mean, he has to occupy at least seven dimensions in order to do that, and that's above and beyond the three spatial dimensions that we occupy along with time, the fourth dimension. And so these are extra-dimensional, supernatural, and make it appear and disappear. Jesus could do that. So they so we have these um thousands, possibly even millions, of supernatural saints, and they will rule and reign with Jesus for a thousand years. And this it and so the more details about this period of time you find in the book of Isaiah primarily, you'll find them in the book of Psalms and elsewhere. This is a time where the the the wolf and the lamb will lie down together, that the lion will eat straw like an ox, where there'll be longevity. This says someone who dies at a hundred years will be considered a child. So that means it looks like we're going back to the antediluvian period, which is where we first encounter the Nephilim, where there's long life, there's perfect peace, perfect justice, perfect provision. Jesus rules and reigns perfectly for 1,000 years. And then it says after that thousand years is up, and this is a physical, real thousand years, it's not metaphor because it uses that term thousand years six times in this scripture. So I think the Holy Spirit is beating it over our heads. This is a literal thousand years at the end of the thousand years that Satan will be released from his prison for a short time. And when he is released from this prison, he has one job and one job only. He will deceive the nations, not general uh deception. There is a specific deception. He will he will deceive them. The Bible says to gather to battle to surround the beloved city, that is Jerusalem. Jerusalem is called is the only city known called a beloved city in the Bible. You can do a word search and any on your favorite Bible software. The beloved city is Jerusalem. He will he will deceive the nations to battle against Jerusalem and the camp of the saints. And then then um fire will come down from heaven and short work will be made of this, and and that's that. So that so the idea that people who believe that we're in this little season now, they believe that we are in this time of the deception, that Satan had that Jesus had his thousand-year rule at some point in the past, and then apparently he left because he's not here. And Satan was released, and we're in that period of time where Satan is has been released and is in the process, I guess, of deceiving the world to, I guess, eventually gather against Jerusalem in the camp of the saints. And that's that's the theory that we are in that period of time now, that there was a civilization that existed and it's been apparently hidden from us, but Satan is deceiving us, and apparently we're we're towards the end of the season where God will finally judge. So um, to answer your question, Alcast, what are the holes in it? Well, there are a lot of them. And let's just look at the primary holes. The in order, as I explained, according to the Bible, not my opinion, what the Bible says is that during this period of time, if we're in this period of time, two things have to be in place. Number one, there has to be a camp of saints in Jerusalem, there has to be hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of supernatural resurrected believers in Jerusalem right now. This is what the Bible says, not what Ed Mabry says. The Bible says this. And that's number one. Number two, Satan has to be doing the one and only thing that the Bible says he's going to be doing during this period of time, and that is gathering the nations to battle against him. So if we're in a little season, number one, there has to be a camp of supernatural saints in Jerusalem, and number two, Satan has to be actively gathering the nations to battle against them. So, what's the big hole? Neither of those things are happening. There is no camp of saints in Jerusalem that anyone's been able to see. And secondly, Satan is not gathering nations against against Jerusalem. Is there turmoil in the Middle East? Yeah, is there turmoil in Israel in Jerusalem? Absolutely. But all the nations in the world are not gathering together to fight in Jerusalem specifically against this camp of saints. You know, you can we can maybe count five nations who are actively against Israel, you know, uh, Iran, some other Syria, Lebanon, a few, but Panama's not gathering against Israel, Uruguay is not, Canada's not. I could go on and on of the nearly 300 nations, I would say 98% of them aren't doing this. And again, there's no camp of saints. So that's that's the main hole in the argument, and there there are several others, and because it really gets down to evidence. Because let's keep in mind, and I'll say this one last thing, and I'll let you guys uh chime in. Remember, if we are in, if we're at the end of the millennial reign of Christ, then that means that a thousand years ago, all the events of the tribulation occurred. And these are not events that would not have left evidence. Just, I mean, the the judgments are devastating. There are two great earthquakes. One earthquake in Revelation chapter six moves every mountain and island out of its place. The second great earthquake at the end of the bowls of wrath causes all islands and mountains to disappear. Mountains are flattened, islands are no longer found. I don't know if you've noticed, but there are still mountains and islands. So how are they here if this has already happened? And these are not just new mountains that have sprung up. We have cartography from the time before Jesus' first advent, let alone the second. And the mountains and islands that were that are here now are the same mountains and islands that were there before the time of Jesus. So that didn't happen. All green grass is burned up in um in one of the bowls of wrath. Well, that would have left enormous evidence in the atmosphere, in the rings of trees. That hasn't happened. A third of the trees were supposed to be burned up. No evidence of that. All the water in the world was turned into blood, like the blood of a dead man. And it said every living thing in the seas died. That's an extinction level event, which would have left enormous fossil evidence. It would have left all it would have left enormous evidence. And that's just naming like three of the plagues. The rest would have also done so. And of course, last thing, you have this person called the Antichrist who ruled the entire world, not our small region, the entire world, and caused everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to get a a mark in their right hand or forehead. Why is there nothing in the history of any culture in the world of this person existing and doing what the Bible said he does he did? So to put it in a nutshell, the main problem with the little season is that there's absolutely no evidence that we are there and that the events that preceded it have happened.

SPEAKER_04 42:01

Um so I you can understand why people might think that we're in saints little season because of how unbelievably evil that the world has become become. So this is not a loaded question. This is a this is a genuine, heartfelt question. Sure. I am not an expert in eschatology. Um so I'm asking you, Ed, then where do you think that we are in the timeline? How uh what you know, in your in your humble opinion, where do you think we're at?

SPEAKER_03 42:26

I believe that we, if you were to, if you were to take the book of Revelation and stick a pen in where I think we are, I think we are at the end of chapter three. I think we are at the end of the church age because the the book of Revelation, the first chapter of Revelation is the introduction where Jesus comes to the apostle John and gives him this vision, this revelation, as it were. Then chapters two and three are the seven letters to seven churches, which I spend a lot of time on in my revelation series on faithbyreason.net and on my Patreon, which is patreon.com slash faith by reason, which I highly recommend people go to because that's where I am most active and interacting. In any case, I spend a lot of time there because I believe that those two chapters, chapters two and three, are the most pertinent to um to us as as Christians, because those seven letters and the order in which they were given, I believe they outline the entire history of the of the of the church, from the church at Ephesus, which represents the apostolic church, all the way to Smyrna, the persecuted church. Then you have Pergamum, the the compromising church, then you have uh Thyatira, which is the medieval church. Um Sardis appears to address the the Reformation Church, Philadelphia, the missionary church, and then finally you have the postmodern church, the Laodicean Church, and I believe that's where we are now. And then after that, the church age ends, and then we go into the uh the six seals that begin in um we start with Revel Well, we get to the heavenly scene in Revelation 4 and 5, and then the sixth seals start in Revelation 6. So to answer your question, I think we're at the end of the church age. So are things incredibly Evil? Absolutely, they are. I'm not, I that is that is unquestionable, and they're getting worse. They are unquestionably getting worse. But the little season isn't marked by great deception in general. It's marked by one specific deception. And when I've talked to people who believe we're in this little season, they say basically the same thing that you were implying, Alcast, which is, well, we're in a time of great deception. Oh, yes, we are. Here's my question. When haven't we been in a time of great deception? Great deception started in the Garden of Eden and it hasn't stopped. Satan hasn't taken a break. The fallen Elohim, the fallen angels have not taken a break. There's always been great deception. And I believe it's getting worse, but I don't think it's getting worse because Satan is getting stronger per se. I believe the deception is increasing because the church is getting weaker. We are salt and light. What happens when a light dims? Darkness grows. Satan is not more powerful than us. He is not. Jesus said in Luke chapter 10, I've given you the power to tread on serpents and scorpions and all powers of evil, and nothing shall by any means harm you. We have the power over this. And this is something we'll talk about a little later. That's why I'm doing a spiritual warfare class. Because I have gotten, because times are so difficult now and spiritual attacks are ramping up. And I've mentioned I mentioned it a few times in some of my podcasts. And I toyed around with the idea of doing a spiritual warfare course. And the response was overwhelming. I wasn't even soliciting doing it. I was musing. Thank you. It's up there. I was just musing about the idea. Hey, maybe I should do this course. And I got an overwhelming response saying, please do, we are under attack. And it's going my spiritual warfare course is a year long. It is intensive. It is not a really short, um, kind of basic training course where you're just going to learn a few prayers and a few Bible verses. No, we are going to take you for an entire year through spiritual warfare from head to toe, from um everything you need to know, how to um how to fix yourself first, how to get your defense going, then offense, then knowing about your enemy and special situations, and then finally how to help others, because that's really the goal of my spiritual warfare course is to train you so that you can help others do this. But in any case, the the what I lead off with in my first response when when I start um communicating about the warfare class is we already have victory. We have already won. We just need to know how in my in my spiritual warfare course is to train you in the power that you already have through Jesus Christ. So we as a church, we are the thing that has been keeping evil at bay. And as long, and when we were shining brightly, and when we had the salt, you know, salt is what keeps you know food from spoiling. As long as we were strong in the light, then evil is kept at bay. But as the church diminishes, evil grows because it's a response. As I said, if you have light and it dims, darkness comes in. That's why we're in such a time of spiritual evil. Not because Satan has suddenly taken some steroids and got stronger. No, we, the church, we have gotten weaker. And as we get weaker, naturally, darkness is going to grow.

SPEAKER_05 47:15

Oh, it makes so much sense. It makes so much sense. And and could would you also say that this could be a season, a time of um could this be you know, underneath the the fall, the great falling away? Do you think that's possible right now?

SPEAKER_03 47:32

I I think we're coming upon it. Yeah, Paul talked about this because in 2 Thessalonians, which is a letter that Paul wrote in a response, as a response to a false letter that was uh sent to the church at Thessalonica. Paul said, you know, don't be shaken in spirit as if you've received as as you've got as if you've gotten a letter as from us. So someone counterfeited a letter from Paul saying that the end had already come. And the church at this in the Thessalonian church were panicking because Paul didn't tell them uh that things were ending. And Paul said, no, no, no, don't worry. These there are things that have to happen before the end comes. And one of them was there will be a great falling away, an apostasy. And that falling away means it doesn't mean the world is falling away. He says, no, there'll be a falling away from Christians. You cannot have an apostasy unless you are first a believer. So when people talk about how bad the world is getting, you don't use the world as a bellwether, you use the church as the bellwether. The the falling away, the the darkness that is increasing is a direct response to us. It's our fault that things are getting uh getting worse. And so, yes, I believe that falling away is happening. And so, and so I understand I want to make this clear because I've been in a lot of debates about the little season, and you know, I've wrote my book on the little season, and it's I I'm not writing it just to pick a fight, just to argue, just to say, oh, I'm right and you're wrong. It's not about that. I actually have compassion in my heart for people who believe in the little season because I believe there's a deception there, and I talk a great deal about where I believe that deception came from. And deception is dangerous, and here's why the deception is dangerous. Not because I believe it's going to affect your salvation. Okay, you can be a Christian and believe in a little season. I don't I don't think that that's not going to negate your salvation. But what I believe it will do, I think it will greatly affect your walk with God. Because if you believe that we are in that period of time, then you're you believe that Jesus came a long time ago and left, abandoned you, didn't just abandon you, but he abandoned you into the hands of your mortal enemy, and just basically he walked away and said, Satan's in control and I'm out. Jesus wouldn't do that. God would not do that. God said, I will never leave you nor forsake you. Especially, and if you if you listen to some of the people who are the big proponents of it, they have their idea is that this little season has been going on for almost 300 years that started in the 1700s. Well, that there's a problem with that. The first problem is the word little season, that's English in the original Greek, it's mikros kronos. Kronos means time, mikros means small. It's where we get the word micro. It's a small period of time. It's not gonna be hundreds of years. God would not leave you in the hands of Satan for hundreds of years. That's that would be cruel. And so that's that's that's number one. And excuse me, and it's so so that's a problem right there. And and and secondly, I I again I don't believe God would not abandon. So it's it's the wrong definition of the time. And by the way, that word little season, microspronos, also appears earlier in the book of Revelation, in Revelation chapter six, where um the fifth seal is open and there's a cry of the martyrs, and they say, How long, O Lord, until you avenge us? And God says, just wait a little season and then I'll do it. Well, how long is a little season there? Well, it's basically the next chapter is when God begins his process of taking the world back. And it's at most, it's three, it's at most three and a half years. So why would he, and again, I think it's even shorter than that. So why would a little season be a maximum of three and a half years in chapter six, and then a few chapters later, it's three hundred years? No, that's that's inconsistent. That's that's that's poor hermeneutics to be through.

SPEAKER_04 51:18

And and may I add, uh, for anybody believer, any believer listening, none of us feels abandoned by God. Whenever we reach out, he's always there. So uh there's obviously there's that too. Um and and not to get too far into the weeds on this, because you know, we'd probably Jesse probably wants to steer us back towards the Nephilim here in a little bit, but um I I I'm I'm I find this compelling also that uh I'm sure you've heard the the the eschatological theory that you know six six thousand years from you know Adam to us and then a thousand years of rest would be the thousand-year millennial reign of peace, which would put us approximately 2030. Um and and and where that holds water with me a little bit, and like I said, I'm not I don't I'm not a I don't proclaim to be an expert in eschatology, but it holds water with me because the global elites, all of their plans for human control are around 2030. So I in my mind I keep thinking that they want to put the clamp on us before Christ's return. Um would you agree with that? And and can you shed any light on that and that thought?

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Yeah, I I think that there's some validity to it. Um, a lot of folks use the idea of the day is a thousand years that comes from um from uh the works of uh the apostle Peter. And I think that's a little dicey to use that as your as your rationale for it, because Peter, he is not, he is not giving you a hard and fast rule of how God sees time. He's basically talking about there, he says, you know, that there are scoffers coming who are saying, you know, where is the promise of his coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, things have gone on as they always have. And Peter says God is not slack as other men are slack. God's not, you know, he says, you know, but a day into God is as a thousand years, and that's a thousand years is as a day. I think what he's saying here is that God doesn't see time the way we do. What may seem like a long time to us is a short time to God, and vice versa. No, God is eternal. A thousand years, like asked is like a day. On the other hand, if there's someone who is unsaved, who is trying to wait for the right reason, the right purpose, the right time to get saved, then that could seem like a long time to God. It's like, what is taking you so long? That's what I think is happening. Now, that doesn't mean that I I I may not be right here. Maybe he is really saying a thousand years is a day, and that's exactly how he's doing in since he created or actually recreated the world. We'll get to that in six days, in seven days, and I guess seven days will be seven thousand years. That's how long things will last. And there are other reasons to believe that. Um, I've been following what's been going on with the Essene calendar. Uh uh Josh Peck does a lot of good work on that. Uh reading his, reading his book, it's very, very fascinating that the Essenes do have that calendar in their calendar of Jubilees, and they believe that the final Jubilee, the final 50 years before the millennial reign of Christ, begins actually next month. That we are at the that we're about to start that final Jubilee. And Jesus actually came in the first time at um at the beginning of a Jubilee. The Jubilee ended in 70 AD with the with the uh destruction of Jerusalem at the end of the Roman Jewish War. But the beginning of the Jubilee, Jesus came at the beginning of that jubilee. So it doesn't mean that we're gonna have to wait 50 years. He could start things happening eschatologically at the in the early part, which would align with 2030. And yeah, I'll cast you right. They I've heard for years, before I even knew about the Essene calendar or anything like that, when I was getting into the truth community, that these so-called elites, these satanic folk who we're finding out a lot about in the Epstein files and some of their practices, if you didn't know it already, which I did, but I think people are waking up to it, they've been talking, they were talking about 2025 as like a pivotal year back in the 1930s. Elena Blavatsky and and Alice Bailey, those folks were talking about 2025 being a time when they were gonna start putting their final uh stamp on things and and start ushering in the end times. So it's very it could very well be. Uh I think there are lots of reasons to believe the way things are accelerating that we're nearing that point. But keep in mind that God is still in control.

SPEAKER_06 55:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 55:23

It may happen during this period of time or it may happen later. God may say, nope, I want to give it another hundred years. I don't think so. At the rate things are going, I don't see how we're gonna last another hundred years. But hey, you know, a hundred years ago, people like you and me, they thought they were in the last few days or last few years. So while I think there's very compelling reason to believe that we are right at the end, we could be wrong. That's something you know to always keep in mind.

SPEAKER_05 55:47

Yeah, good thanks. Thanks for shedding light on that because 2030 is a big is a big year, not only for them, uh, but we've noticed it too. You know, they everything that you know they they they talk about the agenda 2030 and all the rules and the controls that they have in place for us, but we keep fighting back, and that you know the 2025 stuff um goes all the way back to the technocracy stuff in the 1930s. I believe that's what you were getting into, Ed. And you know, what what I'd like to add, have you um so we've had some of these these guys as guests on our show, okay? And they they came they they came here with a very um what do I want to say, uh, a very compelling argument, didn't they, Howcast? It came out, it's it's at the time it sounded okay, you know, like it could it could match, it could line up. And then you bring these things that are way off target, okay. So that that that kind of breaks that down. Now, um a lot of uh a lot of the guys they'll like to talk about Tartaria in you know a lot of the uh melted buildings, which I can see melted buildings there too, and melted brick, melted steps. Yes, I I agree with that. I can see that melted stuff. It still could be out of timeline, though, is what I'm saying. So um have you had any luck? I don't know if you've ever debated any of these kind of guys, but have you had any luck turning them back away from the this little deception uh or little season, Satan little season? Have you, you know, what's what's your luck? What's your luck with that, Ed?

SPEAKER_03 57:20

Um, I have had people, I have turned some people who were, I wouldn't say they were hardcore. I think I've turned some people who were kind of on the fence or who did believe it. I've been on some podcasts uh because after I I I think I did a few debates and um I've I've been on several podcasts to talk about it. And some and I was on a few where they said, you know what, before I talked to you, I believed this wholeheartedly, but now that you lay this out, um, I understand why we're not. Because here here's one of the things that I say, I said this on the attorney attorney Tony Merkel show and a few others that shows that I've been on is that you have to understand how God does things. And he always does things the same way. God does not change. When God fulfills prophecy, he fulfills prophecy precisely, specifically, and completely. God never kind of sort of fulfills prophecy. There's no every prophecy that's been every man fulfilled, and there's plenty of them, the like the all the prophecies for the first uh advent of Jesus, they were all fulfilled exactly the way they they were supposed to. You look at the 70 weeks prophecy. If you break that down, Jesus presented himself as king on the what we call Palm Sunday or the triumphal entry on the exact day that God said he would if you break down the the those those uh 69 weeks of years. God gave himself a one-day margin of error, and it happened exactly that day. The Bible says that Jesus would be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver. How many pieces of silver was he betrayed for? Not 29, not 35, 30 exactly. It said that he would die from being having his hands and feet pierced. That prophecy was given 300 years before crucifixion was even invented. So my point is that, and I could go on and on. There are over 300 prophecies of Jesus in the Old Testament, and everyone was fulfilled precisely. My point with that is if you just because there's some random cataclysms, that doesn't mean they're from God unless they are exactly, precisely, specifically, and completely the way God said they would happen. Have there been cataclysms? Sure, there have. There have been plenty of them. There was a big old flood that happened several thousand years ago. There have there been meteor strikes? Sure. You know, and I and I've heard, I know there are folks, folks like uh, you know, Paul Stobbs and and I think with JT Fowles, JC, not disparaging them. They seem like very sincere people. I haven't not um talked to them or debated them directly, but I'm not I don't doubt their sincerity. But when they say, well, no, there's a melted mountain over here, okay, great. But Revelation doesn't just say mountains are going to be melted, it says they're going to disappear. It says that the mountains are no longer mountains and islands are no longer found. That's not that's not melting away. And I actually I'm not even sure what that what is a melted mountain. I mean, if if melting, if mountains are made of rock, if rock melting rock is lava, so that's volcanoes. I have no idea what that what that means. And have their in Tirtaria, they bring that up. And I and yeah, it's it's Tartaria is very interesting. I don't I don't know what it means. Actually, no one does. I've never heard anyone give me a give a comprehensive um explanation to explain this. Are there some mysteries there? Sure, there totally are. But just because something's mysterious doesn't mean you can just ram Jesus' kingdom in there. I mean, we don't know all the mysteries about the Bermuda Triangle. Does that mean Jesus is in the Bermuda Triangle? No, there are mysteries, but just because something is mysterious doesn't mean it's biblical unless it meets the specific, complete, and precise criteria of the Bible. And then there are other aspects of the Tartaria stuff that honestly don't make much sense. You know, the uh from what I understand, the idea is that when Jesus left, all the survivors were put into insane asylums so that you know no one will believe their story, and then their children were put onto orphan trains and given to other people. Well, that raises some obvious questions. Who put them in the insane asylums? Who built them? And wouldn't the people who built the insane asylums be the same folks who were contemporaries of the people who they're putting in the asylums? These orphan trains, who adopted them? How did they adopt them? And how did they match up the people who were adopted? Did they make sure that all the white kids went with the white families and black kids went with black families? So they're not saying, hey, you know, you look nothing like my mommy and daddy. So, I mean, there are just all kinds of logistical problems with it. But here's the thing: there's something called confirmation bias. If you want to believe something badly enough, you can make the evidence bel, you can make the evidence fit. And that's what I've really found is that a lot of folks believe in the little season, and and any evidence that comes along that that seems to confirm it, they latch on to it. Any evidence against it, well, that's that's that's been hidden history or something like that. So just to to wrap up my thoughts on the people who believe in it. Again, I'm not I'm not the enemy. I'm not trying to harm you. I am trying to help. I understand why you believe it, because we're in a time of great deception and it looks like we've been abandoned. I get it. And in our minds, we have these two seemingly contradictory ideas. We have on one hand, we have a loving God who is benevolent and wants the best for us. On the other hand, we have irredeemable evil happening. How can those two things be? And that's a contradiction that that messes with our minds, our unconscious. It doesn't fit. Well, then along comes a theory that says, well, yeah, God did abandon us, and it's already in the Bible. And that and so that fits, and it it settles the unconscious angst that you have. And because it settles that, and our minds are made for comfort, we're made, our minds are made to accept things that seemingly uh resolve our contradictions. And when it does, and someone like me comes along and says, no, it's not true, well, we tend to rage against that because we don't want to get back into that discomfort. But the issue is there is no contradiction. There is no contradiction between a loving God and an evil world because if we look at the pattern of how God does things, there things never go bad to good with God, ever. Things get bad, then they get worse, then they get good. Every single time. Look at the flood. Things were bad. We had the Nephilim on the earth. Things get worse. It gets to the point where there are almost no humans left, then God intervenes. You know, you look at the at the at the Israelites, you know, they conquered the prom that well before they got to the promised land. They were they went to uh Egypt, not their land. Things were bad. Then we're they they were enslaved for 400 years, things got worse. Then God intervened. Jesus, he lived a perfect life, yet he was hated by the Pharisees. Things were bad. Then he was tortured to death. Things got worse, then they get better. Things are bad now. They're going to get worse, but they will get better because that is the pattern that God shows us throughout the Bible. Satan is not in control.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:24

I don't think I've ever, I don't know if I've ever heard anybody say that before. I love it, Ed. That's great. Thank you for that perspective.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:28

Yeah, I do too. You know, and you saying that stuff makes me feel a lot better. And Ed, I do not feel like God has abandoned me or any of us. I just have it in my gut. Um, I will like to say that yeah, though those two guys, um, you know, JT and uh Paul Stobbs, they've been on our shows. Uh we're friends with them guys, and they're the ones that you know we heard a lot about this from. So you on the other side, now you bring the argument that feels right to me. It feels in my gut, it feels right to me. I think that's probably the most important thing. Um but it's it's very easy to find.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:09

Yeah, go ahead. No, I'll just say the last thing. I mean, I know we we're only touching on it now, and this is very deep. And I'm sure the people in the comments saying, Well, what about this, that, and the other? I totally get it. That's why I wrote a book. Yeah, yep. And we want to guide them. If you go to my website, you can you can get the entire book where I go through everything in vib in real detail. So, because I don't want you to feel that I'm just attacking, as I said, the let's the the purpose of the if you go to the to the shop, um, that you'll you'll see the book. If you if if you look read everything, I the the point is that I understand why you feel that way. And I it and I'm ending I end the book with a message of hope that this is not a hopeless situation. Satan is not in control, he never has been. Satan cannot erase a thousand years of the kingdom of Jesus. He couldn't erase the three years of the three and a half years of Jesus' first. Um advent when he was teaching. How in the world could he have erased a thousand years of a worldwide empire if he couldn't erase three and a half years of a ministry that only encompassed about 400 square miles in the Middle East? He couldn't. God wouldn't let him. Well, look, you guys Satan is not that powerful. He really is not.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:19

I want you guys I'll put the link uh to his book or to the website and everything. You can look at it right now. The Little Season of Satan, hidden hidden history or hidden agenda ebook. Yeah. So you guys go check that out. That's really good.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:32

If you want a physical book, you can go to Amazon. I'm just I just have the um ebook on my site.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:36

Excellent, excellent. Well, I'll have all these links. It looks like Music Lover. She's gonna put these links in our Discord channel so people can check it out there too. And uh lastly, before we get to the next one ad, I just want to say that in my head, those melted buildings that I see, the melted bricks and everything, I think it's dragons from old.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:54

Yep. We might talk a little about dragons. I think we are a real thing. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:01

Well, let's let's roll with it. Uh, you know, wherever we're gonna go with that. Um but in I think it's dragons, and I think what Hollywood shows us is what do I always say, Outcast? I think everything that Hollywood is showing us, there's a little bit or a whole lot uh of clue of real history. Sometimes they're gonna flip it and decept it like they always do because they love doing that. But I I I gotta tell you, the more and more Hollywood reveals of itself, the more and more I see biblical uh uh connections to what's going on. And uh they're not always there for a good reason of telling us things, but I think they're revealing them their hand, uh whether they know it or not.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:44

They have to. Yeah. They have to. This is something I'm actually gonna do a book on this. The you know, the revelation of the method, predictive programming. Yeah. Because I I've done some podcasts on this, but I haven't put my thoughts down into a book yet. I think I I want to because uh it's very important, especially to people who are in the conspiracy and truth community. Because there's a question, why would these people tell us what they're gonna do before they do it? It seems counterproductive. They have to. They're not, and there are lots of theories about it, but I believe they're not doing it because they want to. They're doing it because they have to. They are obeying a spiritual law that all of the, because again, at the high levels, people always ask me, who do you think is at the top? Is it the Vatican, the black nobility, the council of 100 or 300 or whoever? No, it doesn't matter which human beings at the top. At the very top are fallen Elohim, fallen angels. And they are subject to spiritual laws, the same laws that God is subject to. And what are those laws? You have to speak it in one realm in order for it to manifest in the other. How did God create or recreate our universe? He spoke it. He said, Let there be in the heavens, and then there was on earth. That is a spiritual law. These entities have to state, they have to state out loud what their intentions are for in order for them to manifest. That's why they're doing it. It's not because they want to, they they're they're forced to.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:02

Yeah, the breath. The breath holds power.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:04

Yes, yes.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:06

Wow. All right, I can't wait to get into it. Ed uh stuff is so revenge of the Nephilim. Exactly. Revenge of the Nephilim. Alcast, what are you thinking so far?

SPEAKER_04 1:09:14

Oh, it it's beyond stimulating. Thank you, Ed, for coming on our show. It's uh we're a humble little show here with uh a loyal audience. Um, you fit right in, and we are just so grateful to have you. So thank you for your thoroughness and your uh I don't know, you just you just have a passion, I can tell, for the word of God, and and we just love that. So, man, it's just a pleasure to have you here. Yeah, um, so so far, yeah, I'm digging it. Me too.

SPEAKER_05 1:09:38

It's making it the way you talk and the way you deliver makes it very easy for me to take in. Uh, you know, I'm usually pretty hard-headed, Ed, but you're you're you're you're making it easy to take in and absorb. I like it.

unknown 1:09:49

All right.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:50

My passion is to help my fellow Christians increase it increase their walk with with God. And to increase their walk with God by understanding who he is, yeah, what he is, what he wants, how he does things, so that you're not fooled by any deception. So the better you know God, the smaller the chance there is that you will be deceived. That's my passion.

SPEAKER_05 1:10:11

Love it. Amen. Love it, love it. All right. So we have revenge of revenge of the Nephilim. Now we haven't had a lot of Nephilim shows, but nothing about revenge of the Nephilim. So we're gonna break that down right now, okay, Red.

SPEAKER_03 1:10:29

So the the crux of it, the actual vengeance itself, I believe, begins in Revelation chapter six and goes through what are called the trumpet judgments. But to understand that, we need to go all the way back to the beginning, to where these things came from and what their purpose was. Because I think a lot of people misunderstand the reason that the Nephilim were spawned, were spawned in the first place. So let's let's go all the way back to the beginning. Genesis 1:1. In the beginning, God created the heavens and the earth. Period. That is an overview statement. God created two realms, a spiritual realm and a physical realm. Now, I'm of the belief that there was between verses one and verses two, verse two, some type of rebellion of the angelic beings, which I call the Elohim. Um, unfortunately, that word Elohim is translated G-O-D in our English translations. And we look at it as a name. Well, God is not a name. God is a title, G-O-D, Elohim is a title of residency. God's his name is is Yahweh, Yehobah, Yahweh, Y-H-W-H. That is his name. God is not God is a title of residency. Elohim is a title of residency. If you reside in the spiritual realm, you are an Elohim. If you reside on earth, you are called man. That's all it means. So that's why I refer to them as the Elohim. And um, they were created before that. We know in in the book of Job, where when we get to the end of the book where God is confronting Job, and he says, you know, I'm paraphrasing, you know, where were you when I laid the foundations of the earth? When the sons of God, the Benaha Elohim, shouted for joy. So that means that these Beneha Elohim, these angels, these Elohim, were created before the earth was created. So they were created at this point before. And then there was, it had it's implied strongly that there is some kind of rebellion, because when we get to verse 2, it says the earth was tohu vabohu or formless, desolate, chaotic. Now it had to become that way because we see in Jeremiah and Isaiah's, it says directly, the earth, God did not create it hohu. He did not create it chaotic, which is and lies with aligns with the second law of thermodynamics, which states that over time things go from order to chaos. It doesn't go from chaos to order. Chaos can't exist without order. It's order first, then chaos. Chaos is a measurement of the lack of order. So God made an orderly universe, it went into chaos. And you have other implications there when it says that the earth was tohuba bohuhu, without form and void, and darkness was on the face of the deep. That word deep is the Hebrew word tehom. Tehom, if if you take the um the Sumerian of that word tehom, is the word tiamat. Tiamat in Sumerian is a seven-headed dragon, a chaos dragon that that is legendary for being around the time of the creation. The and we see seven-headed dragons elsewhere in the Bible. The um Hebrew equivalent of Tiamat is Leviathan, which we see in in um in the book of Job as well as the book of Isaiah. So this is the Hebrew equivalent of this chaos dragon. And it says darkness was on the face of this taom, of this Tiamat, of Leviathan. And the Spirit of God, the Hurach Elohim, was hovering over the face of the Mayim, which is translated waters, but it doesn't mean water like H2O. It means chaos, it means some filth. So if you look at it from the standpoint of the people who were reading it, who were initially, who was initially given to, which are ancient Israelites, this is a picture of God standing standing over a conquered foe, Leviathan, Tiamat, the original rebel. And then what happens next? God recreates the earth, heaven and the earth. And then he speaks things, he says, light it gone, said let there be light, then you know, then you know, let there be separate the waters and trees and animals and so forth, and then he makes man. And so what we can assume is that somewhere between that time between Genesis 1.1 and Genesis 1.2, we don't know how long it was. It is an indeterminate period of time that the Bible doesn't tell us. Maybe it was hundreds of years, thousands, maybe or shorter, maybe who knows, millions. But there was a period of time where the angelic beings, the Elohim, had dominion over the heavens and the earth. But when God recreated things after this, after the rebellion, God puts man in charge of the earth. God tells Adam, subdue the earth, dominate it. It's yours. This is your everything will obey you. I have made you my I've made you my image. I've made you my image bearer. And what that doesn't mean that Adam looked like God, that Adam, yeah, that God has a head and arms and legs. No. When he said he made in our image, that means they bear the image of God, meaning that whenever anything in creation would see Adam and Eve, they would they would react to them as they would God. So Adam could say, you know, tree grow and the tree would grow. He called the ant, he named all the animals, and they took the names in. So so basically, Adam was God's proxy on earth. So the earth had, which was at one time ruled by the angelic world, was now ruled by humanity. Well, it would appear that there was a segment of the Elohim that didn't like this. They had the earth, maybe they wanted it back. So I'm taking a little bit of creative license, but I think that it's there's plenty of circumstantial evidence for it, especially when we get to the book of Enoch. And then we get to Genesis chapter six, which is where we get the Nephilim. It says that when men began to multiply upon the earth, daughters were born to him. And then the sons of God, the Bani Elohim, saw that the women were, your Bible might say, fair or beautiful. And the Benaiah Elohim, the sons of God, came down and took them as wives, and they bore the Nephilim. Why? What's going on here? Well, some people will say, and like, for example, Tim Alberino, he basically couches these Elohim as like, you know, frat boys looking out for a good time. They saw the earth women were hot. They had nice bodies, nice boobs, like, oh, we're we're aroused and we want to go have sex with them. That's why they that that was their motivation. There's a lot of problems with that. The problem number one is that if these angels, these Elohim, saw women, saw girls, and were sexually aroused by them, then that means they had a sex drive. A sex drive like we have. That, you know, we we're men, we see a good-looking girl, we get we get aroused. That's that's how we were made. But there's a reason behind it. God created us with a sex drive because he wanted us to fulfill his will, and his will was that we procreate. He told Adam and Eve, be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth. Well, it would make sense that God would give us a drive to do his will, and his will, again, was to populate the earth. So human beings having a sex drive makes sense. Angels having an innate sex drive doesn't make sense. Why? Because angels don't have sex with each other. Jesus said that the angels in heaven, very important, the angels in heaven do not marry, they don't marry nor are they given in marriage. Angels don't have sex with each other and have little baby angels. So if if angels have a sex drive, then God had to have given it to them. Why would he give them a sex drive if they don't have sex with each other? Now clearly they could have intercourse with earth women and procreate, but it's pretty clear that God frowns on that. So if God gave them a sex drive, then he gave these angels an inherent drive that could only be satisfied by doing something that God finds abominable. That would be completely unfair. That's not God's nature. So when they saw these women, they didn't say, oh, she's hot. No. That word for they saw that these women were beautiful or fair, that actual word means that they were acceptable or fit. Fit for what? For what the angels wanted to do. They wanted to create the Nephilim. Why? To get the earth back. How? Well, God's law. God made a law that said that the earth would be subject to the dominion of man. What is man? Well, man is a physical, spiritual hybrid. God formed man from the dust of the earth. He formed Adam from the dust of the earth and breathed into breathed into him the breath, the huach, the spirit of life. He didn't say let there be man. No, God specifically put his spirit, a spirit inside of man. So man is an entity that is part physical. We are part physical, part spiritual. So God's law says that the earth can be controlled by beings who are spark, part physical, part spiritual. The Elohim looked at women and said, hey, because they can see more than we can. They are in higher dimensions. You know, a physic physic uh, excuse me, physicists say that the that we are in a world of up to 10 dimensions. You know, our three spatial dimensions plus time, plus the other several, you know, gravity, electromagnetism, strong nuclear force, uh, those 10 dimensions. So the spiritual realm is at least one realm beyond that. So angels occupy at least 11 dimensions. They can see things beyond us. They can look at the women and say, if we we can procreate with them and we can make our own physical, spiritual hybrids. And if we make them, they, according to God's own law, they could rule the earth in the absence of man. Here's something that's really important that a lot of people miss or misconstrue. There's an idea that the goal of the fallen angels, the principalities, the spiritual wickedness in high places, Satan, all those angels, that they want to they want to dominate, they want to conquer us, they want to dominate us and control us. That's not what they want. They don't want to conquer us, they want to replace us. That's the only way their Nephilim can have the earth. They're jealous of us, right? Right. They are jealous, yeah, yeah, they're jealous of us because we have the earth and we have a special place in the heart of God. So look at what happened when you get to, well, and you you see this in you know in the uh the pseudo-epigraphy book of Enoch, especially Enoch 1, which I think is the only one that I really give credence to. The other two are interesting, but I I think they they have contradictions in them. But it talked in detail about what these angels did. They didn't just have sex with women, it says they married them. They entered into a marriage covenant. Why? Because they wanted to make this legal. They were trying to use God's law against him. And what do you do in ancient uh in the ancient times? How did you marry someone? Well, first you had to you have to ask permission of the woman you want to marry and her family. If you look at how what happened with with um um Isaac, the son of Abraham, when Abraham's servant went out to find a wife for Isaac, they they found a woman, Rebecca. She said yes, the family said yes, and then he gave them gifts. This the servant of Abraham, his name was Eliezer. What did the what did the fallen angels do? They gave gifts. The gifts of knowledge, of uh, of enchantments, of magic, all these things that the secret societies use to this day that they guard so fervently are the secrets that they got from the fallen Elohim. It taught women how to uh make their eyelids, you know, uh makeup, essentially.

SPEAKER_05 1:22:12

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:22:12

Yeah. You can do all an angel's car or makeup. Well, because you know what makeup does, it's when you look when a woman is wearing makeup, it's essentially it makes her look sexualized. She looks like she's she's flush. Yeah, the red red lips, red in your cheeks and your lips. It makes you look like you're sexually aroused, which of course arouses men. But neither here nor there. In warfare, armor, Azazel did that. So they married the women, entered into a legal marriage contract with them, and then produced legal offspring, the Nephilim. And the book of Enoch says that the Nephilim, first they they they were giants, they consumed all the produce of men, then when they ran out of, then when men could no longer sustain them, they began to eat men, they began to consume humanity. And it and it got to the point where it's quite possible that Noah and his family were the only pure humans left after about a thousand years of this. Because if you go back to Genesis 6, it says Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations. That word perfect implies the lack of a physical blemish in his genealogy. The Bible is contrasting Noah and his family with the rest of humanity, which again is implying that by the time of the flood, Noah and his family were the only pure humans left. Remember what I said? God goes from bad to worse to good. And so basically the nephew they almost won. If they had wiped out Noah and his family, then they then there were no more humans left.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:23:41

And God already said it repented him that he made man. People misunderstand that. And they say, well, God was sorry he made man. No, he wasn't sorry he made man. He said he repented him. What does repentance mean? Repentance means you turn away from it. God was basically saying, I'm not going to make man again. That's what he repent, repent means, you know, I'm not going to do this anymore. God is no longer going to make man. So if Noah and his family had been wiped out, then Nephilim would have won. So I'll let you guys talk, then I'll get to what their how their revenge comes.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:09

Could you imagine, you guys, outcast, could you imagine being live back in the day and witnessing all this stuff? Especially that when the days approaching and when they were getting ready to uh to to put Jesus on the cross. Could you imagine going there and just looking at the sky and and feeling the tensions of the crowd and being I wish I could go there. Go ahead, Alcast.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:30

No, it's it's an interesting thought, Jesse, to try to put yourself there. And it is it is very compelling to consider what that must have been like. Um and I just thinking out loud here, I don't have an agenda by saying this. I'm just just want your feedback. Um I I I just get this feeling because I've been I've been in the midst of reading, um, I'm almost done reading Michael Heiser's Unseen Realm right now, which has taken me a long time. Yeah. It's taking me a long time because I it's like a Bible study for me. I'm sitting down with my Bible cross-referencing as I go, making notes, and it took takes a long time to get through each chapter. Um, and I'm loving it. But I just this is maybe too paraphrasy, but I get the sense that, you know, of the Elohim, or as as Heiser calls them, the divine counsels of these beings, which by the way, angel is a job descriptor for messenger. We use it as a blanket term. There is right. But he it it get this impression that they were more of a spiritual being that had the ability to manifest in a physical form, where we're more physical and we have to search a little bit harder for our spiritual. But we're both of the same components. We're both partly physical and partly spiritual, like Jesus was, right? He was fully God, fully man. We share these components, but they these fallen angels saw us as lesser than them, more animal than them. And and and that was where the resentment came in because they were meant to look after us or watch over us or be the watchers. So they they they were became some of them, their pride got in the way, they got irritated that they were gonna look after us as these half you know animal with a with a spiritual component, where they were spiritual with a little bit of an with a little bit of uh tactile, you know, component. Is that a fair thing to to ponder? Is that uh do you see any any value in bringing that up?

SPEAKER_03 1:26:17

Yeah, I I do, but here's here's what I want to do. I want I want to reverse our perspectives on spiritual versus physical.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:26:25

And I that may help and that may help us all understand um this a little better. So we have this idea that our world, our physical world, is you know, the real solid world. And that the spiritual realm is kind of ethereal, kind of, you know, fluffy, non-corporeal, insubstantial world. And that if a let's say, if if if if a spiritual being, if an Elohim, if an angel were to come were to pass into my through my walls, if he would pass through the walls into my room here, because you know, the walls are solid, he's so not solid he can pass through it that way. I think it's the opposite. I think that the spiritual realm is a real solid realm, and our realm is the ethereal, non-corporeal realm. Here's what I mean by that. If you look at the composition of an atom, the basic building block of our of matter. Well, if you look at at the model in our our textbooks from high school and college or wherever, you see like the nucleus, and then about an inch away, you see the electrons circling around. Well, that's put there for our convenience, but that's not the ratio. It's a the distance, it's 100,000 to one. So, in other words, if I were to take the nucleus of an atom and if I was able to enlarge it to the size of the head of a pen, uh an ink pen, if I were to take that ink pen and put a go to a football field and put a dot on the 50 yard line, those electrons will be circling through each end zone. That's huge distance. If you were to maybe blow it up to the size of a baseball nucleus, the electrons would be spinning around seven miles. From that baseball. So 99.9% of the atom is nothing. Blank space. The electron only has inferred weight. It's not, it doesn't have weight. It's the weight is inferred from the spin. So, but and the electrons are where we get the illusion of solidity because electrons have a negative charge. And if you have ever had two magnets and you turn one over and you try to push them together, they're gonna they're not gonna adhere to one another. One's gonna file right. So imagine you had trillions of those in our cells. We have trillions of our cells are made up of trillions of atoms. Well, that negative phase, that that resistance is so strong that it gives the illusion of solidity. So the reason that my hand won't go through the desk in front of me is because there's an electrostatic force that is blocking it. Not because they're solid, they're not. Again, they're mostly nothing. Then when you get down to the proton and neutrons that make up the actual weight of the atom, well, you break those down. Protons are made of quarks. Quarks are vibrations. So we're basically made of light and vibrations. There is no real solidity. There's the illusion of solidity. The spiritual realm is the real realm. And to put this in a way that may be easier to digest, imagine you're in an airplane, you look out the window, you see these big fluffy, billowy clouds. You would just by looking at them, it looked like if you jumped out of the plane, you would land on this big cushion, you would sink into the big cottony cushiony cloud. But we know that won't happen. You would fall through. Why? Because these clouds are water vapor. You are heavier than that. The only way for that cloud to support you is if you were somehow able to reduce your mass enough to be equal to or less than that of the cloud. When an angelic being appears, they don't become more real to interact with us. They become less real. They give up their mass. We see this in the book of Jude, where it talks about the angels. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, maybe uh 2 Peter, where it says the angels who left their first estate. That means they they gave up their first estate, their residency. Yes, that's you know, we know that's what estate means. They didn't put on more reality to interact with us, they had to remove their residency, they had to remove their substance in order to interact with us. That angel is not passing through the wall. The wall is passing through the angel. Our our physical world is so insubstantial that it's it it's like the cloud. It poses no barrier to these entities. They have, in order for us to see them and for them to interact with us, they have to become less, not more. So if you look at it that way, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:43

I'm sorry, I'm interrupting. I apologize. So so did the fallen angels become trapped in this lesser reality? It seems as if they that's yeah, that the the the fallen angels, the ones that that rebelled, it almost seems it almost seems like that they're they got stuck here. Uh they couldn't get back to their first estate. Not yet. Okay, all right. I'll let you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:08

But now they were put in chains under darkness. We see this in Enoch and also in the canonical Bible, that they are chained, but they're not those chains are spiritual. And by spiritual, I mean they're more real than if they were chained. So they're still in that spiritual form. The chains under darkness are in the spiritual realm. But as I as I I I'm trying to convey, that realm is more is more substantive than our realm. We can't see it, not because it's less, but because it's more. We're not capable of seeing it. We can't see into enough dimensions. So the spiritual realm isn't somewhere out there, it's all around us. As we speak now, and don't mean to scare anyone, there are Elohim all around us now. We all have familiar spirits. I'm going to talk about this a great deal in my spiritual warfare class. We have familiar spirits, evil spirits who are assigned to us.

SPEAKER_05 1:31:56

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:31:57

And we we also have good ones that are assigned to us as well. Jesus talks about this in Matthew. So the whole old adage of an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other shoulder, that's not too far from reality. Yeah. How do we know they're familiar spirits? They get to know us. Have you noticed that every time you fall or slip up, it's always in the same two, three, or two or three ways? Why? Because that familiar spirit knows you and it knows how it knows what your triggers are. It knows what to do. I will tell you one of my triggers, and it starts from very early age. Um, when I was young, my parents divorced when I was two years old. And at that point, that spirit whispered in, it's whispered in my ear, this is your fault. You're rejected. You're insignificant. So if you ever want to tick me off, and I've learned how to get past this, but before I'd learn how to get past it, if you ever want to tick me off, disrespect me, or reject me, or make me feel insignificant, and I will, I would have flown off, flown off the handle because that familiar spirit knew that that was a deep-seated trigger all the way down in the amygdala, the part of your brain that is all in motion that's triggered. And we all have our triggers. There's something for each of you, you know what they are, that if somebody does this, you just fly off the handle. Always, no matter how hard you try, until you learn to get rid of those triggers, because that's your stronghold. That's what Paul talks about. Your stronghold is a place where your enemy can always get weapons. And we all have our strongholds, our familiar spirit knows them, and they know that no matter how far we progress, if unless we've addressed those strongholds, they can always go there and get us to fall again. But there's a way around it. And I we will be teaching it in a spiritual warfare class.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:39

I'll cast the thing. That is crazy. I like the sound of it. Me too. They're um over here. I'm watching some of the chat here on Rumble. Um, earlier we're talking, and uh down honey says the spiritual battle battle or the spiritual spiritual is bigger and deeper, and we are living in the 10% matrix right here. Uh, it sounds just about right. And then uh music lover says, I think he's talking about that we're in the matrix. Yes. Oh man, it makes it make so much sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:34:10

Yeah, this isn't just spiritual. There are like secular scientists who have there, there's something called your your your listeners, your watchers can look this up called the holographic universe theory. Go Google that. And there are secular scientists who who are convinced that we live in an electric simulation, like a hologram. Yeah, a hologram. If you, I don't know if you remember some of the old Star Trek um shows, they had the holodeck, where you would go into this holodeck, and it was, it was just, they were they were hard light um holographs that they would interact with. That's what we're in. But here's the thing: if we're in a simulated reality, then that means we're simulating something. What are we simulating? The spiritual realm. Do you know that the tabernacle in in um that that that the ancient Israelites had, that tabernacle was a reflection of the actual throne room of God, the mercy seat, the ark, all of those are replicas of what's actually in the throne room of God. The cherubim who are on the mercy seat, their actual cherubim, and we see them you know in all over the Bible in Isaiah and Daniel and Revelation. So the so basically the inner the holy of holies was a uh was a replica, a simulation of the throne room of God. So the we we live in a simulation, which means we're simulating something, and I think we're similar in the spiritual realm. Wow.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:31

Wow. It's it's almost gives me the feeling of uh of you ever guys seen that picture before where there's people in a box and they're in a cubicle working, and you, you know, and you have these men that are peeking over a wall, a high wall that they can't see, and they're just watching them work and do their thing. That's what that makes me feel like it. Like we're we're being peeked in on, we're being looked through through the through the looking glass, right? Oh wow. We're in a video game.

SPEAKER_03 1:35:56

If you look at it that way, I mean I treat my analogy a lot when I'm talking to younger people. We're in a we're in a video game. But when and we're driving these avatars of these these flesh avatars we're in, but we're a spirit. We're not your brain is not you. We are our spirit is technically outside of this, of our brain. Our brain is the interface with which we can make the decision to walk and talk and do go to work and go to wherever and you know do our thing, eating, drinking, whatever. But we there we are controlling our avatar.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:28

You know, I was on the avatar I was on the avatar ride at Disneyland or Disney World uh just a few months ago. And it was my second time being there. My my my daughter, she used to be a um graphic design artist uh for a year there. And she would take us on these rides and everything. And I'll cast I told you about this, about the avatar thing. And in the in the long line before you get in there, uh there is so much to see, so much interaction, so much to do, and so much they're telling us. And when I was there, I was going nuts. I'm videotaping everything, I'm recording, taking pictures. I mean, because they're revealing so much there. They're just exactly like you just stated, they're taking our uh they're removing us from our physical and putting it into just like the movie, into this ride, into this uh being that's on the screen there. And it takes us to another room and it scans us. You know, it's it's all done by video stuff, but it it it's it's portraying that it's scanning us and it's reading our DNA and it's melting that DNA with this DNA, and uh, we're gonna be able to control this this thing that's gonna take us through this world. Man, all that stuff has come flushing back now that you're from what just from what you're saying there. Sorry to interrupt all that, but that's just I had to say it.

SPEAKER_03 1:37:51

Okay. How much time do you have left? I want to make sure I'm gonna get to everything before we can go as long as you want.

SPEAKER_05 1:37:57

Uh you know, it's okay. Yeah, you can go as long as you want.

SPEAKER_03 1:38:00

Okay, no, great. Good enough. I didn't know if there was a hard stop. No, so I so I want to get back to so we know about the Nephilim, and I've given you my ideas. And again, check this all out for yourself, folks. Don't believe me just because I say it because you like the way I say you have to Paul told you study yourself to show that you're approved of God. It's like you have to be like a Berean. Take everything in, but then search the scriptures to make sure. So that's your responsibility. When you stand before God, he's not gonna ask you what I said, right? And he's gonna ask you what you believed and why. And so it's your responsibility to do deep dives into this and find out for yourself. So it with that said, so we have the the Nephilim, we know what their reasoning were was, or the reason that they were being created, because they wanted to get rid of us and have their proxies, the Nephilim, the fallen angels want fallen angels, wanted to have their proxies rule the earth. Well, obviously, God took care of that with the flood. And again, this is why he flooded everyone, because when I was a younger Christian, the flood bothered me because I was the idea was why would God kill everybody? That doesn't seem loving. Well, then you look at it, well, no, he just killed the Nephilim. Excuse me, Abraham, uh, Noah and his family were they were saved. All the things that died were the Nephilim and the and the one, because you know they sinned against the animals as well. So apparently they they had corrupted animal life, according to the according to first Enoch. So that happened. And of course there were Nephilim after that. We see them, you know, on on the um in during the not the yeah, the exodus into the promised land, you know, the the sons of Enoch, the Rephaim, the Zazuim, um, Goliath, these there are remnants of them. They still they were still around, but not to the extent that they were before. So, what about their revenge? Now we got to fast forward to Revelation chapter six. Revelation chapter six is the opening of the scroll with a book that's sealed with seven seals. And every and when Jesus breaks these seals, you know, the first four seals are you have riders on these horses coming out. You have the first rider on the white horse, who I believe is the Antichrist. And that's the common idea. And by the way, I have another book. I think you you pulled it up on um on the other on the website when you're looking at my shop. And I call it the false apocalypse because my theory is that these four horsemen are not are not from God. The classic view, and I could be wrong, but the classic view is that the four horsemen are the beginning of the judgments of God. I don't believe that. I think these four horsemen are actually the beginning of a false apocalypse by Satan in order to usher in his antichrist. His antichrist is a false Christ. In order to have a false Christ, you have to have a false apocalypse to usher him in. And I believe that's what's happening here, but I'm not going to, that's a whole other subject we can talk about another time. But the first horseman is the is um is the Antichrist. He begins his campaign. The second horseman is called war, but the Bible doesn't say war. It says he causes men to kill one another. That word kill is the Greek word spotso, which means killing, but as part of a ritual sacrifice. So if you were to go back to ancient Israel, they would spotso a lamb on the altar. So it would, and so this is, I believe, ritualistic bloodshed in order to bring in demonic energy. Anytime you have, anytime you have any type of occultic ritual where they are trying to bring in demonic energy, it's always about there's blood and sex involved, especially innocent blood. Why? Because blood and sex are the two um areas where we get life. The life is in the blood, according to Leviticus. And of course, the sexual act can bring new life into the world through pregnancy. So something about this life energy seems to thin the veil between our realms and allows demonic energy to come into our realm. So I think that's happening in mass with the second horsemen. Then you have the black horseman, which is famine, but it's not a famine of scarcity. It's economic famine. It's, you know, you have to, it takes an entire day's wage to afford a piece of bread. That's not because there's a lack of bread, it's because, again, it's hyperinflation, which we're seeing a lot these days. And it can be, you know, it can be pretty easily done because it's he also says the um the voice comes out and says, you know, a measure of wheat for uh a day's wage or three measures of barley, but don't hurt the oil or the wine. Oil and wine are the province of the rich. So the rich are going to be fine when this happens. It's the person middle class and below that's going to be um economically impacted. Then, and here we're reading to the crux of it, then we have the fourth horseman, the pale rider. He's called death. And it says he's given power to kill a fourth of the earth with through war, famine, pestilence. We we know what those are. We know what war is, we know what famine is, we know what pestilence is, diseases. Then it says, and the beasts of the earth. What does that mean? Well, this is a place where most commentators on Revelation kind of gloss over and they say, Well, I guess, you know, uh your dog and your cat and chickens and goats and giraffes are gonna lose their minds and start slapping the crap out of people. Nah, that doesn't sound right. We have to look at the original Greek. That's the difference between reading the Bible and studying the Bible. If you read the words, you can make them say anything you want. You have to study it. Look at the original language, look at who's speaking, who's being spoken to, what's the context, what's the doctrine? That word, the words for beasts of the earth is therion gi or therion gigantes. Therion means a spiritual beast. We see that in the rest of Revelation. The Antichrist is called the beast from the sea. The false prophet is the beast from the earth. So this is a spiritual entity, the beast. And that word gigantes means of the earth. So the beast of the earth means it means the earth born. The earth born, if you go to the Septuagint and look and go back to Genesis chapter six, that word is the word they use for the Nephilim. The Nephilim in the Septuagint, you can go, you can go, you can use um uh Bible gateway. And I believe, I believe they have the Septuagint there. If then, if not, you can find the Septuagint online. Go to Genesis chapter six. That word is Gigantes. That's actually where we get the term giants. Now they happen to be giants, but but gigantes means earthborn. Earthborn beasts. These are the Nephilim. The Nephilim are coming back, they're going to return with this pale horseman. Why? Because there are Nephilim that are locked under the earth. There are Nephilim that are in the bottomless pit. One of them is Nimrod, who I believe is going to indwell the Antichrist. And there's also Nephilim that are. You've heard about the Kandahar giant. You know, that's a pretty that's a classic one. So I think they're under the earth. These deep underground military bases, there are stories. I forget the man or the name of the name of the man. I think his name was Schneider or something like that. He told he's no longer with us, but he would tell stories about how he was under there and he saw some of these entities. It could be that what people consider the alien grays are some type of Nephilim, or they're some kind of body that was manufactured that the Nephilim can inhabit. Because that's what demons are. Demons are the spirits of dead Nephilim. That's why demons are always trying to possess people. Fallen angels don't try to possess people. They don't need to. Nephilim, they were cursed, according to the book of Enoch, to wander the earth without bodies. They still have the same desires. They still hunger and thirst and have desires, but they can't fulfill them unless they possess someone. That's why they want to possess people. In any case, they're coming back somehow at this fourth horseman, and they're going to be the ones that are going to be responsible partially for killing a fourth of humanity.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:32

You talk about the Dulce base. Yeah. Oh, just going back to fighting those uh aliens or quote aliens underground. Uh, that's that Dulce base attack uh underneath there when they were fighting. And uh what was his name? Uh uh Benowitz or last name? Is that right? Same guy. And then there was another guy that talked about his name. Yeah, I heard that. That crazy story outcast. We gotta all right, let's keep moving.

SPEAKER_03 1:46:00

Yeah, well, yeah, I believe he said he was at that part of his arm was burned up when he tried to uh fight one of these things or something like that. In any case, so they're back on the earth at this point, and truck people are not ready for this. That's again why another reason why I don't believe the little season has happened yet, because I think somebody would have written down, oh, by the way, there were these uh these supernatural creatures on the earth killing a bunch. You know, if you look at at the all the judgments of Revelation, at least we get to half of all humanity are killed. A fourth are killed here, then another third are killed when we get to the trumpet judgments, not to mention other ones who died the other in the other uh judgments. That would have been a massive population reduction. That again, there would be evidence of it. Anyway, enough of the little season. Let's get back to this. So you have these have you so you have the six seals, and the six seals lead um in a couple other a couple chapters later to the blowing of the seven trumpets. And they do devastation, but I want to focus on the fifth trumpet. When the fifth trumpet is blown, uh um, there is a star that falls from heaven called um Apollyon, which uh is basically the Greek god Apollo. And he's given the key to the bottomless pit, the Obuso. And when he opens it, these demonic locusts come out. And these locusts are given power to torment men for five months. Why do I how do I connect this or why do I connect this with revenge of the Nephilim? How long was the flood on the earth? 40 days and yeah, it rained 40 days and 40 nights, but it was five months. That's a direct tie. These these entities are Nephilim that are released from the bottomless pit, and they're allowed to get their revenge on not just anyone, but only on those who've taken the mark. Because I believe that the the trumpet judgments happen around the midpoint of this seven-year period. Well, so it has to be like around the time of the mark of the beast. So these people who have decided to irrevocably uh reject God by taking this mark, they're the ones who were tormented for five months. That the Nephilim get their revenge for being wiped out. So these are the Nephilim who died in the flood. They come out and during his five months, he says, Men will want to die, but not be able to.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:29

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:48:30

That always confused me, and it still does. I don't have a a complete explanation, but I have some ideas, I have some theories. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 1:48:37

I have one that uh, you know, the what what what took place in the last four, five, six years, and people went in there and you know had something done and took you know, took to them, whatever. Um I'm almost thinking that that plays into exactly what you're just saying. Uh that these these men in the future are gonna want to be able to die, but uh, but but that that god gene has been taken away from them. Yeah, okay, that's your fingers up.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:02

I was just gonna add, oh, go ahead. Sorry. I was just gonna say my my theory is that uh I've heard them say that they're in the near future they'll be able to harvest your soul and put you in technology and you can live forever. Technocracy. Uh through yeah, so I always looked at it like they, you know, you people will long for death and it will not come because they've been allowed, they've allowed themselves to be turned into their soul to be harvested into AI or something to that effect. Just throwing that in a hopper. Sorry, sorry, Ed.

SPEAKER_03 1:49:29

No, I I I won't argue against it. Like I said, I don't have a full explanation, so I'm open to anything. That's that's an interesting possibility. I haven't thought about that, but I I do know that that's where the technocracy is going for us to be able to upload our minds into technology. I I wouldn't I would not trust that because that means that whoever controls the technology controls you. But I mean it's appealing because we want. Here's the thing if you go back to to the very beginning, what does man want? Man wants everything. Everything that Adam had, but without God. Fallen Man wants. I have a one of my blog posts, I call it, you know, Jonesing for Eden. That we want Eden. We were made for Eden. We were made for perfect provision, perfect safety, perfect community, and eternal life. We were made for that. We fell from it, and the only way to get back to it is through belief in Jesus. But fallen man wants that adenic state, but without God. They want the eternal life. But they're doing everything they can to get that. And this is why these elites, very rich people as well, are trying to find ways to live forever. And that's one of them is uploading your consciousness to some type of construct that is more durable than our bodies. But my thought is that when it says you can't die, because um LA Marzuli, I don't know if you have you've had him on your show. He's he's a great character. He believes, or or he did, I haven't, I haven't uh checked in on him lately, checked in on him lately on this, but he believed that taking the mark would make you more durable somehow, that would change your DNA. And I believe that, but I believe it'll it goes a little further. But he believes it'll make your DNA so much more durable, make you so much more durable that you know you're you're not going to be able to die. And that's interesting, but I figure there if you jump off the top of a Sears Tower, I don't care how durable you are, you're gonna go splat. I see it another way. The only way you will want to die and not be able to is if you're not in control. If someone else is driving. My thought is that when you take the mark of the beast, it's gonna do one of two things. It's either going to turn you into a Nephilim, it's gonna alter your DNA to the point where you're no longer human. That's why I think, or that's a reason, a possibility for why you can't be saved after you get the mark. Because logically, you you could you would think that, let's say, you know, I decide I'm gonna get the mark of the beast. But then a few couple months later, I'm like, you know what? That was a bad decision. This antichrist guy is nuts. I don't, I, you know, God, I'm sorry, I believe in you now. Why wouldn't I be able to do that unless I'm unless I'm either not driving or I'm not human? Jesus only died for human beings. If you're not human, you're not eligible for salvation. So it so it could alter your DNA to the point where you're no longer human, because Nephilim can't be saved. Or it could alter you to the point where you become a vessel to be inhabited. You become possessed. All those Nephilim out there, those demons who have no bodies, well, you take this mark, you're altered to the point where now they can possess you. And you may want to die, but you're not in the driver's seat, you're in the passenger seat now. There's another entity that's in control. And it's like, nope, you're not dying. I don't care. Let them sting you. Let those demonic locusts sting you. You're not dying. Sorry, bud. I'm driving. You just you have to deal with it for the next five months. So theories. All theories, but I I just think we I think it's interesting.

SPEAKER_05 1:53:04

Very interesting. I every time I hear this kind of talk, uh, again, you lay it out so crisp and clean. Uh, it just it just makes me think of everything I've learned before, right? It just makes me like go back and be like, wait a second, now he's giving me more clarity on that. So wow. All right, keep going. This is great. Alcast, you have anything to add?

SPEAKER_04 1:53:25

Oh, I could, but I want to let Ed go. Yeah.

unknown 1:53:29

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:30

So I mean, so so that's how I believe they they're getting their revenge. Um, so here's another thing, and and I'll probably kind of wrap up with this, and then we can go in any other direction you want to go. Because I I I talked before about how Elohim and man are titles of residency. If you reside in the if you reside in the spiritual realm, you're Elohim, if you reside in the physical realm, you're called man. Again, that's not your biology, it's where you're residing. Remember when Abraham um gets a visitation from from God, from Jehovah, from Yahweh, and to and to Elohim, they're called men. When they go to Sodom and Gomorrah, they're not called angels, they're called men. Why are they called men? Are they to become human? No, they're still Elohim, but they're residing on earth at this point. So they're called man. Not because they changed form, but because this is where they're residing. So I want to get back to something you said earlier, Outcast, about when you said, um, are these are are the fallen angels locked in here? And I said, not yet. They will be. Let's go back to uh Genesis chapter six. The sixth seal. When the sixth seal is open, you have what people call the cosmic disturbances. Says the, you know, there's the great earthquake. That's the earthquake where every island and mountain is moved out of its place. That's like incredible tectonic activity that we've never seen before. It would, again, it would be evidence if it had already happened. Though that's one thing that happens, but it also says that the sky rolls up like a scroll, and the stars of heaven are cast down to the earth like a like like a fig tree in a windstorm. So this is not a gentle descent. This is violently being thrown out. And these stars, we're not talking about the big balls of light in the sky. That will make no sense. I mean, they would that would destroy the earth quickly. No, the stars are an idiom for the fallen Elohim. They are being cast down to earth. Why? Because it's time for their judgment. Understand this. This is really important. I want folks listening to understand. God takes no delight in judging man. He does not want to judge man. He his desire is for man to be with him. He says he says it directly. Desire is that all men be saved. Now, they won't be because there are people who have and will reject God. But that's not his will. His will is for us to dwell with him for eternity. The only God's cataclysmic judgment is only for the fallen beings. The flood. Flood wasn't for a man, flood was to wipe out the Nephilim. When we get to these judgments, these are not uh Sodom and Gomorrah. Why was Sodom and Gomorrah um destroyed? It wasn't about homosexuality. That's that's going way too much in onto the surface. What were those men of Sodom wanting to do with those angels? Why do they want to have you know gay sex with them? They were trying to make more Nephilim. They knew that sex with angels made more Nephilim. Marzulli talks about this actually. When he he visited that area, he saw Nephilim mounds there. The sin of Sodom, it says it doesn't, when the Bible talks about what the sin of Sodom was, it doesn't say anything anything about homosexuality. It says that it was, you know, pride, fullness of bread, and not strengthening the hands of the poor. What were they doing? They were making Nephilim, and God has a zero tolerance for the Nephilim. That's why they wanted so keep in mind that angels in the holy angels only present as male. But angels don't have gender. They can present as female. You have the succubus, you have the Sophia, you have the Lilith, you have Ishtar, Astarte. These are all female deities. So they can present as females. And they so either the men knew that these that these men angels could present as female, or also keep in mind that they could have been saying, come into our daughters, because when it talks about in in Leviticus, a a male owns his daughter's sexuality. He owns her nakedness. When it says don't uncover the nakedness of a man's daughter because that's his nakedness. So it so either they were going to directly have intercourse with these angels to make more Nephilim, or they were going to give them over to their daughters to have intercourse with them. Because remember, what does Lot do? Lot says, Hey, take my daughters. They said, No, we don't want them. Can't make Nephilim. We want these angels.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:57

Yeah, could make Nephilim with his daughters.

SPEAKER_03 1:57:59

So exactly. So the point is that God's catastrophic judgment is only reserved for fallen entities. These Elohim in Genesis chapter, excuse me, in Revelation chapter 6, and they're being cast down, they're cast down so that they can be judged. They are forced to, they are stripped of their first estate, and they are forced to materialize on the earth. Now they're now outcasts, they're going to be trapped here. And then we see later the why is that earthquake happening? Because there are some of them, these fallen angels that are locked under the earth, and they're coming up.

SPEAKER_04 1:58:36

And through and through Christ, we become the elect and we will judge angels, correct?

SPEAKER_03 1:58:43

We will, yes. We're going to judge, we're going to judge our familiar spirits, those those spirits that are always on our shoulder, leading us into trouble. We're going to judge them. And I'm getting deep into some other stuff here. So okay. Bring it. I'm going to try to encapsulate this as quickly as I can. Okay. When we get to the book of Daniel, um, chapter seven, where we see Daniel's vision of those four beasts. The lion that has the winged lion, the bear raised up on one side, the leopard with four heads, and that indescribable beast. Well, we know this trans, it's um the vision is revealed that the lion is Babylon, the next the next one is Medo-Persia, then Greece, and then we know the next one's going to be Rome. What's happening here? These this is the revelation of the method. This is the fallen angels giving their plan of how they're going to conquer the earth. Because after that, we have the uh the indescribable beast that has the horns, then you have the little horn that comes up, this full of eyes, and he's going to, yeah, thank you. And he's going to say all these great, these powerful, pompous words against God, against the Most High. And that's their man. And so God says, okay, I see what your plan is. You've just spoken it in the spiritual realm. It's going to manifest, it's going to happen. Now I can judge it. Because the next scene is a courtroom. It says they see the ancient of days, God sitting on his throne, and there are thrones around him. No one on the thrones, interestingly, but there are thrones around him, and then the books were opened. Then these this is this is a courtroom. If you were an ancient Israelite reading this, you would know that this is a courtroom scene. God is now judging this, he judges it in advance. We know the end of the story in Daniel chapter 7. And then, and how does it end? It ends when Daniel says he sees a son of man riding on the clouds, and all the nations are given to him. Well, we note that to Jesus. The son of man, a human being riding on the clouds. Why is riding on the cloud significant? Because that was one of the names of God. He was called the cloud rider. Michael Heiser talks about this. Because remember, when the Israelites were going to the promised land, there was a pillar of clouds that they would fire, that excuse me, that they would follow, and a pillar of fire as well. So that's how they knew God. It's the cloud rider. So now you have a man riding on the clouds. You had a human being with the authority of Yahweh. That's Jesus. That's why Jesus always referred to himself as the son of man, not because he was a human. When Jesus said, Who did they say that I, the son of man, am? Jesus is saying, I'm that guy you read about in Daniel. He was calling himself, I'm the son of man. I'm the guy from Daniel chapter 7. So, what is the point of this? Well, let's take let's take this and go back to Revelation chapter 4. What do we see? The apostle John, after the seven letters of seven churches, he's taken up to heaven and he sees that same throne room, that same scene. Except this time, that throne room has the elders on it. 24 elders. What do we know about those elders? Well, we know they're not angels. Why? Because in chapter 5, they sing a song. When Jesus is deemed worthy to open up the scroll, they sing a song, and one of the lyrics on that song, one of the verses, is that he has redeemed us from all nations. Angels can't sing that. Jesus didn't redeem angels. Only one group of people who can say that we were redeemed. The church. Why is that important? They are right there. They are in the courtroom. The church is going to judge. This is where that final judgment is executed that began in the book of Daniel. I talk about this. I do a Bible study every uh once a month for an entire year. We go through the entire Bible from the supernatural perspective. If you join my Patreon, you can be a part of that starting actually in March next month. So those seven letters, in addition to being guidance, they're also jury instructions. They are telling us how to interact with the world. The Ephesian, the Ephesians are told to tell the truth in love. Remember, they they were great on doctrine, but they lost their first love. What was the remedy that Jesus gave them? Remember your first love. So tell the truth in love. The Smyrna, the Church of Smyrna, the persecuted church, they were told to endure persecution and you'll be rewarded. The Church of Pergamon was told not to compromise. They were a compromising church. Even if the world tempts you, don't compromise. The church of Thyatira was told not to not to worship idols. Refrain from idolatry. Don't make your works an idol. The church of Thyatira was a works-based church. And but they were told don't don't don't um participate participate in idolatry. The church at Sardis, they were told to be watchful, to stay awake. The church at Philadelphia were told to hold on to their faith. And the church at Laodicea, well, they were the worst of them all, but um what they were told to do was to again to hold on to their belief and to and if you know to say he said, Behold, I stand at the door and knock. If any man hears my voice, I will and opens a door, I will come out to him. So you were to resist, you know, being fat and happy and staying and not be lukewarm, be either hot or cold. Those were his instructions on how the church was to deal with the world. Then after that, the church is now in heaven. And they are going to be the ones to render the final judgment. So, yes, we are going to judge the the Elohim. Because if he as a Christian, so we wonder why are we on this, why are we on this earth? Why are we why doesn't we just get zapped why don't we just get zapped to heaven after we get saved? Why are we still here? Because we're part of the trial. Because the way we interact, among other things, the way we interact with the world is part of God's justice. God loves making us a part of his plan. That's what the divine council is all about. He wants, he has, you know, he has an angelic council. And not because he needs the input, he likes it. He loves interacting with us. He loves making us a part of his will.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:06

I'm sorry, I'm just interjecting. I was gonna say, do you think it so so that's why it's kind of important that we don't stick our head in the sand and we try to understand this battle as best as possible. Therefore, we will be better judges when it comes time, as opposed to, I mean, I know that knowledge will be will be imparted on us when we pass, but I mean, I like to think that we have an obligation to not stick our head in the sand and and stick our fingers in our ears, but rather to say, hey, I need to know the battle I'm in, right? And is that fair? Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:05:35

It is fair. Because remember, we can only judge based on what's occurred to us, what's happened to us. I mean, if if we haven't experienced anything, then what can we, how can we judge? You know, and that's why some of the reasons why we that Christians, why we suffer. Because if we don't suffer, then we don't have anything to, we we have no testimony, we have no basis or or less basis to judge. So, I mean, as much as we all want to be comfortable and rich and abundant, I want that. I'm not gonna lie. But when we suffer, we are helping the judgment because now we have a basis to say, this is what happened, and this is how I handled it. So now I have the authority to judge because, like the church of Smyrna, I endured suffering well. I try to be like the church at Ephesus. I want to speak the truth in love. You know, I believe that the little seeds is not is not the truth. I believe that we're not in it, but I don't want to speak it my objection to it by being say, I'm smarter than you and you're, you know, you're dumb for believing this. No, I understand it. I have compassion for you because you believe you've been abandoned and no, you haven't. I want to speak that truth to you in love and tell you to come out of that and hold on to the hope. Know God's pattern, bad to worse, then good. We're in the worst times, and that means we're closer to it getting good. That's the hope I want to give. You know, don't compromise. Stay away from idolatry, stay awake. You know, don't be lukewarm and hold on to your faith. If we do those things, then we will be counted worthy to judge.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:07

You know, oh man, that this kind of talk, Ed, you know, the we we talk a lot like this uh on the show. Um, you do a completely thorough in such a way that I again like that I can it makes it easy for me to understand people like me, right? Outcast is on a higher level when it comes to stuff. I'm a little bit down here, is what I'm saying. So it's good for all of us, but what I'm saying too is that this stuff is so interesting to me, the way that you present it. The problem is I think in church growing up, it was never presented this way. It was presented in a way to make me fall asleep, to make me lose interest, right? Yeah, okay. So the half half the reason of doing this podcast over all these years now, outcast, this really gets me fired up to learn more and to re-I don't know, go go back and look at things that uh that that we missed before in the way we interpreted things in the past is not the same way that we interpret it today with people like Ed. Um, that's what I'm saying. It's like it's it's reinvigorated my my want and need to go back and look at the Bible and read these verses slower, sentence by sentence. Yes, because it makes more sense to me that way. Listen, I'm a slow learner when it comes to this kind of stuff here, but it's hitting hard, is what I'm saying. Okay, before when I was growing up, man, I didn't want to be there. I you know what I mean? It's but I just I crave it now.

SPEAKER_03 2:08:43

Yeah, I I grew up in the church. I mean, literally, like from my my grandmother who helped raise me, she was a matriarch of our church. So I don't remember a time growing up that I wasn't in church. And I like you always get bored to tears hearing the same few messages, sermons every Sunday. But man, after I grew up, and I didn't, I won't say I will I didn't walk away from my faith. I never stopped believing. But after college, you know, college can wreck you, especially if you go to a secular secular school, which most of them are. Yep. I kind of walked away. I walked away from church, not from the faith. And it was only because I wasn't getting fit. There was nothing here for me. I mean, I I have a scientific mind and and and that kind of background. I'm a logical, strategic thinker. That's what I do.

SPEAKER_06 2:09:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:09:22

Um, you know, for a living, I'm I'm a strategist um and consultant. That's what I do for a living. And that's my mindset. And I want things to make sense. I will tell you, because we we didn't go into the preamble uh about you know how I came into what I do with faith by reason. But my whole the whole purpose of faith by reason is two. Number one is to help enhance your walk with God. And number two, uh the primary reason when I started it was I want this has to make sense. If God is real, then he should make sense. It shouldn't be, well, I believe it blindly. No, it should make sense. And that's what faith by reason is all about. If you go to the website, there's a bar at the top in the menu and it says start here. And I just start with the basics of what we know about existence, that we we can think about existence so we know existence exists. And then I go from there and just go through a logical um um, excuse me, I go through uh just a logical progression of what goes on of our entire world, which just naturally leads to God. So I I love this. The Bible is so much more exciting than a lot of our uh experiences make it.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:31

I've gotten so much deeper into it just because of the show and because of the guests we've had and the way now that we're thinking about it differently. It's like, wow, so much better.

SPEAKER_03 2:10:40

Yeah, and by the way, but you're saying now is the membership, and there's a lot of free stuff on the site too. Um, there's some of the stuff is behind a paywall, but there's a there's a ton there for free. Um even the whole get started area. It's if you go to start here, that should be free. If it's not a need, I need to make an adjustment because I want to make the basics uh free to everyone. But um, so just to to kind of wrap up the thought I had about judgment and some of the things that are in revelation that might be confusing. And that is when when some of these when some of God's wrath is being poured out, the trumpets and the bulls, one of the refrains you'll hear from people that that that the Bible documents that just didn't make sense to me for a while was that after all these cataclysms happened, it would say that men still didn't repent from their ways, from their wickedness, and they blaspheme the name of God. I was like, wait a minute, what's going on here? How can you see all these things happening? The rivers and seas turning to blood, uh fire and hell fiery hailstone raining down, these demonic armies of 200 million slaughtering people, you know, the sun scorching you, all these things, these men still how stubborn would you have to be to say, I mean, if I was in this position, I was an unbeliever, I'll be like, okay, look, God, I get it. I I I want to I want to be on your side now. I don't want to deal with any more of this. Keep in mind man versus Elohim. Those Those entities that are blaspheming the name of God and refusing to repent, man just means you're dwelling on the earth. At this point in history, at that point in history, in the future, those fallen angels are going to be called man. Not because they stopped being Elohim angels, but because they're now on earth. So they are called man. So those entities that are saying blaspheming God and still not repenting, those might not be human beings. So just keep that in mind when you read it, because that would always bother me in Revelation. It could be partially that or partially what the mark of the beast does to them. We talked about that a little bit before, that it could alter them to that point. So yeah, I because when you get to the end to Armageddon, you have armies marching to Jerusalem to fight Jesus. Are you insane? Yeah, they kind of are. That was a tower to reach into the heavens. They were trying to invade heaven. That's one of the many reasons why I believe Nimrod will be inhabiting the Antichrist because he's going to do the same thing he did before. They're going to Jerusalem to Mount Moriah, the mount of God, to invade. They said, look, you've destroyed the earth. We're going to go come get you. Just like they were going to do at Babel. And then Jesus comes down and speaks words and wipes them all out.

SPEAKER_05 2:13:21

He's talking the Hillary Clinton WikiLeaks stuff right there, Outcast. That's awesome. I love it.

SPEAKER_03 2:13:26

Yeah, yeah. Her going into the tomb of Gilgamesh, who is likely a Nimrod.

SPEAKER_05 2:13:31

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. We did some episodes on that, but um man, awesome. Outcast, listen, there's so much gold on the table. What do you want to say to uh uh uh to Ed before he has out tonight?

SPEAKER_04 2:13:43

Um, Ed, uh you we we view you, I can speak for Jesse knowingly, as a brother in Christ. And we we cannot thank you enough for taking time out of your busy schedule to be with us at our humble little uh podcast. Uh we we will consider you from here on out as family. Uh we will be inclined to pray for you in your ministry. Please do. And we hope and we hope that you will come back on and we can deep dive into other topics because uh, you know, Jesse was you know saying, Oh, I'm here and uh and Outcast is here, and but you're way up here. And and we we have a lot we can learn from you. And and like your Sodom and Gamor thing, uh I've listened to LA Marzuli, I've listened to Timothy Alberino, I've listened to we've we've had uh we've had those them both on the show. We've had Dr. Laura Sanger, Gary Wayne, but I've never heard any of our guests point that out about that they wanted to make more Nephilim at uh Sodom. That's that's a that blew my mind. So we know that we're just scratching the surface with your knowledge base. We cannot thank you enough for you you wanting to willingly go and and explain these things to to people who are maybe not as informed as you are, but you do it lovingly and patiently. And as I test the spirit as listening to you, I can see that you bear fruit in just the way you hold yourself. And you're an example to every every one of us out here that is a truth seeker and we want to look at the conspiracy and everything else through a biblical filter, but you are doing it with the right heart posture. It's it's a beautiful thing to see. And we're just if you'll if you accept it, we want to just say that you're part of the dangerous info podcast family from now on.

SPEAKER_03 2:15:14

So I appreciate it. Yeah, anytime you guys let me know. I I I love this. This is this is my passion. Yeah, I mean, I could I could do this all night, except but I have a wife and two kids who are probably me too right now. But I could do this every day, all day. I I love this. My dream is to one day get to the point where I'm making enough income from doing this where I can do it full time. I'm not there yet, but I I I want to be there because I want to do nothing but this, because I want to I want my reward in heaven to be as great as possible. And yeah, so I I I love doing this, I love helping people get closer to God. I want it to make sense, like Sodom and Gomorrah. When I because I didn't always know this, I this was like a few years ago that um this, that the Holy Spirit and others helped reveal this to me. And it made Sodom and Gomorrah make much more sense because I think we're all told it was about homosexuality, which okay, but still kind of bugged me. But now, oh, this makes more sense than just God not liking gay sex. Which he which he doesn't. I mean, let's just be clear that it's it's not um that that's not something he approves of, but that seems like an that seemed like an overreaction to me. I'm gonna destroy this city with fire and brimstone just because of their sexuality. It was way more going on, way more in a spiritual realm that God cared about far more than that kind of conduct. But there's all kinds of things that make more sense, and maybe you can come on and talk about. Like, for example, I'll I'll leave you with this the in the book of Job, that entity, Satan, that's not the devil, that's not the dragon. The one that that uh that is actually a quote unquote good angel. He's doing the will of God.

SPEAKER_05 2:16:58

Wow, interesting. All right, that's a new one. You can talk about that. All right, look at that. A cliffhanger outcast is what he did. So listen, you guys, I want you to go to uh faithbyreason.net and go check out Faith by Reason on Patreon and support Ed and what he's doing. Um, I'm gonna put all those links that are down here in the description of what you guys are looking at or listening to. So check that out. Ed, it's been great.

SPEAKER_03 2:17:22

Spiritual warfare class, the spiritual warfare class starts in April. So we're just uh uh about a about a month and a half away from it. So get signed up. Um it's gonna be a year-long course where, again, the goal is to we're gonna first we're gonna teach you defense. We're gonna help you take care of yourself, understand what your triggers are, what your strongholds are, put on that armor. Then we're going to teach you offense, how to go on the offensive and have victory, which is already yours. Then we're gonna teach you some special situations, how to deal with tough things like generational curses, pornography, um, prayer and fasting. Jesus told his disciples, some of these things are so powerful that they only come out through prayer and fasting. We're gonna talk about how, why, and how that happens. And then the last um, the last quarter, we're gonna be talking about how you can take what you've learned and help others so that you can become a spiritual warrior and teach other people how to become a spiritual warrior. So sign up.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:20

Awesome. Maybe we can get uh the uh the the uh link to this right here, the spiritual warfare uh course uh musical. If you would want to put the link of that into our into our uh chat there, please do that. So uh excellent, Ed. Thank you so much for coming on. Um, it's been great. And uh I'll get a hold of you behind the scenes, uh talking about some other things. And um, man, that was great. Outcast, great to have Ed Marbury Mabry back on or on the show tonight. Ed, have a great night, brother, and you stay dangerous, all right?

SPEAKER_03 2:18:52

God bless you, too. Thank you so much. God bless you. We love you, brother. God bless you too.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:56

God bless. Take care. Oh, that was fire outcast, just like I thought it would be.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:02

All right, so we have to yeah, he's got so much info. We gotta have him back on.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:08

We have to get um dig into his website. Uh, he's got a lot of information in there. I mean, just look at it, it's just chock full. That's what I'm doing, is I'm chocked full of this information. You guys, I want you guys to go check this out. Um, what is going on here in these chats? It says, let me see, James Jesus says, there's no scriptural justification for putting anything in the book of Revelation in our future. What's going on over here? I'm just reading through the uh the YouTube chat. So uh you guys can jump into that. But listen, outcast, it's kind of late. It's kind of late. What do you want to do? Do you want to go do you want to talk about this eight carton? Do you want to talk about your or do you want to hold it? Whether something really quick before your final thoughts.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:57

Yeah, I guess for I yeah, let me just rant for one second. Okay. Um yeah, so uh I a couple weeks ago I went off on a tangent. Well, I don't know if it was a tangent, but I was upset. Uh that's not the right word either. But I was kind of explaining why I think we have to be really careful about discouraging other people from the mission that they're on. Um, I had three separate instances where something was sent to me or shown to me where it was saying, this is right before the Epstein drops, uh, the the new information. People are saying, hey, don't focus on this stuff. It's it's taking our eyes off Jesus. Right, right.

SPEAKER_05 2:20:36

I got you.

SPEAKER_04 2:20:37

And and I kind of dug my heels in a little bit on that. And and and I'm feeling it again. I just got to say it again. Uh uh a mutual friend of ours, uh, somebody that I love and respect, and I know he's a believer. Um, I send him a fraction of what I would send you or let's say Brother Tom or other people on Instagram for every 25, you know, things I send to you guys, I might send this person one because I know he doesn't like to get overloaded with information. And he sort of, um I don't know if he he meant to, but to me the tone was like he was scolding me and he said, Hey, listen, I just got back from church. Uh, I, you know, he he's new to finding a church and he's really excited he likes the church. And he says, you know, um, my pastor said today that uh we shouldn't, you know, all this evil in the world, we shouldn't be focused on it. We gotta, we gotta focus on the fact that we're we're, you know, born again in Christ and and the joy in that. And, you know, some of the that's kind of the tone. And man, did I take umbrage with that because um, you know, as I've said in the past, uh I prayed on my knees and asked for revelation and God gave it. I prayed and said, What do you want me to do with this information? And you called me to do the podcast. And we've had people contact us on the show and say that they came for the conspiracies and they left with Jesus. And that's beautiful. I know that we're on mission. And and this person, I know their intent wasn't bad, but they're kind of like, hey, you know, enough with this, the bad news, all this bad news is so bad. Listen, I know that we're a lot of people are experiencing fatigue over this Jeffrey Epstein information, and it's so dark, and it's not for everybody, but we we are called, not everybody. Now, this is this is you know, my mission, your mission, and many of our listeners' missions. We are called to be watchmen on the wall. And if if it if, let's say in the unseen realms, when we get to the other side, if I have to look into the face of a spiritual being that was a child that was molested, uh beaten, abused, murdered, and even consumed by these satanic elite, and I say, Yeah, I really didn't do anything about it because my pastor said that we really shouldn't look at this this bad news and we got to focus on salvation. That I don't think that's gonna wash. I think that we all have a I call it a sphere of influence. I don't mean that we're influencing people in a negative way, but I mean it's a sphere, a sphere where we have some say, it might be one person, it could be five, it could be ten, people who listen to what we have to say. And I think we need to continue to be the watchman on the wall and sound the alarm until everybody wakes up. This is also a pivotal time where people who have never been uh exposed to this Epstein stuff before, or they turned a blind eye to it as conspiracy, now they're being faced with it again, or maybe it's the first time, and they don't understand the spiritual context of what is happening here or the battle that we are in. And if you are educated on what this what this story is and how to present it and how to bring it into focus, so uh somebody who's new to this, a newbie, somebody who's yet to be born again, um, you're gonna miss an opportunity. And and I I just I think that there's a lot of folly. Now, I'm I'm asking myself in this situation with this friend of mine, what does this pastor have to gain? And why does my friend why is he lapping up this message? Well, two things. The pastor doesn't want to lose butts in the seats and money in the plate. And and feel good, I mean, hey, Joel, Joel Olstein, for example, he is the master, master of feel-good theology. Yep, you know, it's uh back in the 70s, they had a saying, I'm okay, you're okay, God doesn't make junk. Have a good day. Bye. Yeah, right? That that that doesn't wash right now. We are faced with an evil like we've never seen before in our lives. An evil that used to hide in the shadows is now in the open. Wide open. And if and if we don't stand in our authority, like Ed was talked about at the very beginning of the podcast, we have to stand in the authority of Jesus Christ. If we don't take this head on, it's gonna run rough shot. We've got to make sure our our our light shines brightly in the face. Listen, we are um we are called to write, it's in John. If you want to look it up, it's in John 7 uh 24. We are called to righteous judgment. That's what we're doing when we're saying, look at this. Don't ignore this. Let's point it out, let's address it and drive it back into its hole where it belongs instead of being flaunted on full display. Um, so so this I believe that this guy's pastor doesn't want to give sour, yucky, scary, icky you know, messages. He wants he wants to give comfort food, okay, because he's he's now a business and he's in the business of comfort. My friend was all too willing to accept that because it's an easier thing to digest than to say, hey, I are are you telling me I gotta take up my armor and go into battle? Or are you telling me I get to sit back and rest in the love and peace of my salvation? Well, what are we gonna choose? We're we're lazy beasts, aren't we? We're gonna choose the latter. We're not gonna choose to put on armor and go into battle, right? I'm I'm kind of ranting here, but I hope this holds value for somebody. But I just, I just I'm tired of this message. I know that people are fatigued with Jeffrey Epstein information, and I know it's it's ugly, but I don't want to let it go. I'm gonna, I'm holding on to it. I want it to, I want to keep bringing it up until people, the normies can wake up and realize that there is a battle going on. And and man, I'm just sick of being told to stand down in this message. I and I and to this friend I said to him um via text, I said, you know, I use the term again, get behind me, Satan. And he says, Don't call me Satan. I'm like, well, listen, you got to understand the context I'm saying it. Peter in the Bible was trying to dissuade Jesus to going to Jerusalem so he wouldn't be crucified. And Jesus is like, get behind me, Satan, because that's that's the mission I'm on. And and I'm saying, I said to my friend, I'm like, I'm not calling you Satan per se, I'm saying it in the context of this message. Jesus still said that Peter was going to be the rock on which he was going to build his church. So I'm not discarding you and I'm not saying you don't have purpose, but stop telling me that because you can't look at this information and because you find it yucky and disheartening, that I can't have purpose in it and I can't be a warrior for the kingdom. If you're a big toe, don't criticize my pinky mission. If you're, because we're all in the body of Christ, everybody has a different thing. I know that everybody can't look at it, I get it, but stop judging people like Jesse and I, or other people that listen to this podcast, based on your inability to deal with this. I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm digging my heels in. I'm mad about it. Okay. Uh am I making sense, Jesse?

SPEAKER_05 2:26:57

You totally are, and you're making sense with people in the chat. And then like I told you before, you're making sense with me. Listen to this. This is what um this is what Hick Town Honey's talking about over here on Rumble. She says, I like the positive stuff, but you have to know how to identify and fight if you have the ability. Now she added on here too, Alcast. It says, Here you go. This is backup for you. I know some very innocent people that cannot handle the details, but if these children endured their hell, we should at least be able to handle the basics of what they experienced. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 2:27:34

Look to that right there.

SPEAKER_04 2:27:38

That's it. I'm not lying. That statement right there makes me emotional because if we had to look these kids in the face, and me, we may have to, and on the other side, I don't know how the other side works exactly, but I'm thinking we will have to see them. Um, what are we gonna say? We we're gonna say, well, it was just too much. It was just too much to handle. You know, I it was taking my eyes off Jesus, so I just no. What when are we gonna warrior up here? And when are we and and like Ed said at the beginning of this episode, when are we gonna shine our bright our light so brightly into the world that we we drive the darkness away? Put on the cloak. See the dark, yep, and and and Ed's right. I think if we're in the Laodicean age of revelation and and the church has gone lukewarm, which obviously it has, okay, the church has gone pathetically lukewarm, most of them, then what's gonna happen? The evil's just gonna start puffing up, and that's what we see with all this Taylor Swift concert stuff, and you know, I mean, we could go on and on about all the different signs and and and things that they're showing us in in culture. They're they're laughing at us because we're shrinking away. I don't know. I'm just I'm ranting here, but yeah, I feel you.

SPEAKER_05 2:28:42

And and a lot of other people feel it too. It's like, look, if these little kids had to put go through this stuff here, physically, they went through a physical, physical, mental thing. But what you can't handle uh you know hearing about it, hearing the truth about it because it's just too icky? Come on, man. Yep. It's like shooting a deer and saying, I can't clean it because the guts and the blood. No. If you're gonna take that meat, you're gonna harvest that meat, you have to do the whole thing. Especially with guys, women and men in the church with their rah-rah-rah, ready to fight for Jesus, right? But those two these details right here are too dirty. I can't hear them. Nope, sorry for that. I'm just gonna stay here, you guys fight. Is that a hypocrite? What is that?

SPEAKER_04 2:29:32

I don't know, but but but the if you understand the horror of it, that might give you the burn in your belly to fight harder.

SPEAKER_05 2:29:40

Wake up. Yeah, now we're talking about waking up on a different level. Actually looking that evil in the face, in the eye. And put on that armor of God. It's time. Don't stop, don't stop telling people, outcast. Don't. Yeah, thank you, Hig Town. She's gonna make you cry again, Outcast. We owe it to those victims. They do not have a voice, but I sure as hell do, and you do, and so we need to speak up for these kids because it was evil that put them down. The kids didn't want any of that. But the evil, like you said, rose its evil head and took these kids down in such a vile way. Slow torture. But oh, it's Sunday morning. We can't hear about that. We're getting ready to go to lunch. Tell us the good stuff, make us feel good for the rest of the week. Come on, man. That's weak. Weak sauce. Put on that full armor. I'll cast you done.

unknown 2:30:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:30:42

I'm done too, brother.

SPEAKER_05 2:30:43

Listen, that's it, you guys. We love you guys. Alright. This is the Dangerous Info Podcast. We'll see you Thursday, or we'll see you Monday night. We love you guys. Don't be afraid of dark. Put on that full armor and get out there. Be who you're supposed to be.