269 "A Redirected Focus" ft. JC Hall, Tyler Robinson hearing, unplugging the matrix, time travel, purpose driven, emergency preparedness, greater Israel Project, black triangle craft, alien disclosure

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Our good friend JC Hall is back on the show tonight and we welcome a man who walked away from the constant noise of heavy political warfare to focus on something deeper: personal growth, building his business, and sharpening his voice through writing. Which you can read on his Substack at The Cynical Patriot: https://substack.com/@thecynicalpatriot 

Check out JC's Florida based business JC Plants on Facebook and at: https://jcplantsandlandscaping.durable.site/

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SPEAKER_03 0:42

Our institutions become corrupt. Unconstitutional agencies are depending on your rights. Your liberty is secure. On them limited yesterday. We live in the disinformation of the top. You're an American unbelievable rights. You have both rights. Welcome to the Dangerous Info Podcast Podcast. Justy Justin James. And Outcast. Just dangerous dangerous. Stay plastic battle.

SPEAKER_05 1:32

Are you familiar with the Hantavirus, Asian mother? Yeah, it was a deadly virus spread by field mice in the southwestern United States several years ago. According to the newspaper, FEMA was called out to manage an outbreak of the antivirus. Are you familiar with what the Federal Emergency Management Agency's real power is? FEMA allows the White House to suspend constitutional government upon declaration of a national emergency. Think about that. What is an agency with such broad-sweeping power doing managing a small viral outbreak in suburban Texas? You're saying it wasn't such a small outbreak? No. I'm saying it wasn't the hantavirus. Well, what was it? What was it? When we were young men in the military, a father and I were recruited for a project. They told us it was biological warfare or virus. What killed those men? What killed them, I won't even write about. We have no context of what killed those men, or any appreciation of the scale at which it'll be unleashed in the future. Plague. Silent weapon for required war. The systematic release of a discriminant organism. Everyone emergency. It's too late.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

If you're still listening to the mainstream media, you're probably the same person I laughed at today. Driving alone in your car, wearing a mask. Wake up, Normie. The depopulation is real. You're listening to Jesse James and Outcast. Right here on the Danger Temple Podcast.

SPEAKER_02 4:08

Oh good thought. Ah, yes, everybody. It is another Monday night. That's right, you guys. May 11th, Monday 2026, Outcast. Welcome to the spiritual and the cultural battle of our lives, where truth is dangerous, and yes, information is a weapon. This is the dangerous info podcast. The underground bunker is what I'm talking about. I am Jesse James, and he is Outcast and Christ is King. Brother Outcast, what we are about to play tonight. Our guest has been uh from the show. He has not been here in a long time, but people will remember the name, JC Hall. He's coming up with us today in just a little bit here, uh, talking about a redirected focus, and I think a little bit more of we're gonna be able to get into some really cool stuff that we like to talk about all the time. Some fantastical stuff, right? Some biblical, uh, so some fun things. So there's gonna be a lot coming tonight, you guys. We're talking about purpose-driven, personal growth, and a bit of emergency preparedness in the mix of all this stuff while we visit with JC Hall tonight, episode 269, a redirected focus outcast. So, listen. I see everybody in the in the uh in the chat rooms. Welcome everybody. Have a seat, pull yourself up, make sure your bunker door is locked behind you, and have a good time while you warm up your coffee and your tea and whatever you're drinking. So, brother Outcast, what is going on? Are you blessed in the battle tonight?

SPEAKER_04 5:45

I am exactly that. I am blessed in the battle. Yes, sir. Thank you for asking.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Awesome. Well, listen, uh, there's so much going on, just like always, man. There's always so much going on. Uh, and and we we we never can touch everything on every show, right? We we we we have a whole list of stuff that we want to talk about, but uh it always seems like we leave gold on the table, and that's not our fault. Time gets away from us. So uh that's just how it is. So uh hello to everybody out there. I see you guys are all packing in. What's going on, everybody? Yes, it has been a long time since we've seen uh uh JC here. So uh we welcome him tonight. So uh we'll get to him uh shortly, outcast. Uh there's a few things I want to show people that we're gonna talk about, um, whether with him or without, but uh shout out where you guys are at right now. I want to see where everybody's coming from. So please give us a roll call. Where you guys at, and I'll put it put up on the chat. Um, Mother's Day Outcast. We had Mother's Day yesterday, and I want to say happy Mother's Day to all the mothers out there, all the wives. Uh, you know, uh hope you had a great day, right? Uh I was able to sneak over to my mom's house and put a pot, a big flower flower pot on the patio and and scurry away. Uh that way there's a nice little uh you know uh surprise. And uh made some steaks here last night at home uh for the wife and uh had some more flowers and did a lot of work around the house. Uh got a lot of stuff in order. So uh but just happy Mother's Day to everybody uh to all the mothers out there.

SPEAKER_04 7:16

Um thank you for saying that, Jesse. That's good, yeah. Because every mother out there, God bless you. It's uh I can only imagine how difficult it is to raise children these days, um, and even in the past. And uh and for anybody out there who's missing their mother, maybe they're estranged from their mother or they are um their mother has passed. Uh bless you at this time. We know it's hard sometimes uh when you come across these holidays.

SPEAKER_02 7:38

But yeah, thanks for saying that, Jeff. You know, and that's important too, Alcaz. That's that's real important to say that because like you said, you know, some people are missing people, and uh it's important to on these days at least think about them, right? Think about them, tell tell their story to somebody a little bit here and there, and uh just just remember that look at a picture, right? Something, something. Uh I have I know I have uh a lot of pictures of my grandparents uh in a box that I need to put up somewhere. You know, I I need to put them up somewhere so I can see them all the time, so the kids can see them all the time. Uh and Farbo, uh, what's going on from uh northern Alaska? Awesome up there.

SPEAKER_07 8:13

Wow, yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_02 8:15

Must be up there by the uh go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 8:18

Uh I was just gonna say, welcome to the party.

SPEAKER_02 8:20

That's yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_04 8:20

That's yeah, that's God's that's God's country up there, man.

SPEAKER_02 8:23

Love it. That's awesome. Yeah. Um let me see here. What else do we have, Outcast? Um I I definitely want to clown on the handovirus, right? We need to do some clowning on that today. We need to uh talk about an emergency prep item, which I'm gonna do in just a second here. Uh, we might even want to talk about this declassified UAP stuff uh that they're they're trying to pull on us. Um next week we have something important is coming up. Well, you know, depending on if it's on your radar, but uh next week there's gonna be a hearing, a hearing, not a trial. A hearing uh against Tyler Robinson. All right. My gut feeling on this whole thing, outcast, is that we are going to get flushed down the Las Vegas uh rabbit hole, just like did with Las Vegas, okay? I think we're gonna get the same kind of treatment with this story, uh the whole Charlie Kirk and Tyler Robinson. Uh, I think they're gonna flush it down the memory hole with their narrative attached to it. Um you know, can't can't think about this, outcast. If somebody's gonna pull off something and do something big out there where they know it's gonna be a big major event in the news cycle, right? Can there be a legal framework set up ahead of time before a crime is committed? You know, it'd be to listen. Uh before, you know, to benefit a desired outcome is what I'm talking about. Okay. Um talking about judges, prosecutors, uh DAs, uh legal teams, uh to control information and facts and omission of stories. I mean I think that's possible. I think we've seen that in the past. I think that people can certain people can make things happen in a certain jurisdiction uh because they know that jurisdiction might be a little bit friendly to what friendly or bought off, whatever, whatever you're thinking. Uh, you know, it's crazy to think of, but next week there's gonna be a hearing, not a trial. And we're gonna watch the media run with a lot of stuff. So I don't know. Any thoughts on that? Okay.

SPEAKER_04 10:25

It's just gonna be a clown show. I know we're not gonna get any resolution, things won't make sense, but nothing will be delved into deep enough, and we're gonna walk away. Just just like, you know, just like uh UFO disclosure. It's gonna be partial and missing parts, and we're gonna be gaslit again. I just it just doesn't the clown show does not stop. It's just the mask has fallen off of this whole system to those of us who are awake, and there's there's nothing they can do to convince us that that anything's gonna be done right or just. Yeah. Would you agree with that, Jesse?

SPEAKER_02 10:54

Oh, for sure. Yeah, yeah. Well, they're pros at it. You know, they're they're they're seasoned vets at doing this kind of stuff. So I think they're getting sloppy.

SPEAKER_04 11:01

Either they're they're getting sloppy or we're we're getting really attuned to how they work because nothing listen, man. I got one word for Charlie Kirk, I got one word, uh one term, 30 odd six. If if that one part of this thing doesn't add up is the 30 odd six narrative that Charlie had a superhuman neck that Superman Six couldn't go through neck, yeah, super neckle home. Uh if if if you buy into that, boy are you dumb, first of all. Second of all, if you if you if you can look at this and realize, well that doesn't yeah, that part doesn't make sense, then why do you believe in any of the rest of it? You can't the whole thing falls apart when you realize that a kid on a rooftop who's by the way, he's a kid, is not likely to be able to put an uh put a gun together that was in his backpack, mount the site, have the site be accurate, and then shoot him in the neck and it doesn't react like a normal 30 odd six, it it puts a little puncture in his neck and shoots his jugular out as opposed to putting a uh a billiard-size uh hole in his uh neck, which would have taken his head off. If you cannot see that that one little detail is off, the whole thing comes in question in my mind. If you're believing the mainstream turning point USA narrative right now, and but yet you are recognizing that a 30 out of 6 would take his head off, what's wrong with you? Why can't you open your mind up to the rest of it? Are you brainwashed? Are you have you been, you know, have you been drawn drawn into a narrative and you can't think for yourself? Really look in the mirror and ask yourself, why can't I see the bigger picture here? Because it's obvious to the rest of us. Sorry, I'm venting. I apologize. I'm I went off on a tangent.

SPEAKER_02 12:39

That's all right. That's all right, brother. No, I that that's why I brought this up, just to get some, you know, because the story's coming back. I think it faded a lot for some some people because they've given us so many different narratives to to mess with and mess with our heads. But this one's just coming back, and again, I just think uh we're gonna get the Las Vegas treatment on it. At some point, the FBI is just gonna close the book, say, that's it, no more, no more questions. Peace. And I think that's that's how it's gonna end up, uh, which is crazy. But um, you know, Alcast, in in this county that we're at, we're changing the subject to something that just happened. Um in the county that we're in, uh, there was a gigantic water main break uh early what 1 30 a.m. Sunday morning, the morning of Mother's Day. All right. And this break was a leak on Friday. All the officials knew about it, underground. They know where it's at. Um it broke on the most inconvenient day of the week, uh you know, of the month, probably, because of Mother's Day and all the plans of the restaurants, the local businesses, everybody uh up and down the main road there, the the the M24. Yeah, you know, so the town next to me is what I'm saying is affected. The whole town that's next to us where I grew up, that's all they they can't use water, meaning no restaurants open right now. Uh, it was crazy. I I did uh uh jobs up there this uh today, and to go up and down this busy stretch of a road for you know that you know miles, uh, and to see all these empty um, you know, uh restaurants, coffee shops, all that stuff that sells water, uh you know, has water in their making of food and and selling things uh either closed or have all these posters on the wall saying can't come in, don't drink the water. All the officials are going crazy. There's finger pointing going on everywhere. The Great Lakes Water Authority, it's their pipe coming out of Detroit, comes up through Auburn Hills. Uh it broke in Auburn Hills. The everything north of it, the towns next, you know, north of it, they're all affected now. So um luckily I'm just outside of it. I'm on a well anyway, so that stuff's not gonna affect me. But all those people that are, you know, bit mostly businesses uh are are on city water over there. Uh, but there's still lots and lots of wells over there in that town. So, you know, you're gonna have pockets full of people that are doing okay uh because they're not hooked to the water main, right? So the the officials are saying that it might be a couple of weeks, it might be, but listen, it's killing the downtown. The downtown is shut down because all the restaurants, the bars, the coffee shops, all that stuff, they're all shut down. People are panicking, uh, kind of like they did uh, you know, with the scandemic era, you know, that we were uh lied about. And sure, I'm wondering if some of these businesses are not gonna be able to make it in the next few weeks. Uh and what kind of big term um, you know, who's gonna be held liable? Is it gonna be the Great Lakes Water Authority, the the local township there where, you know, because not you know, it's Great Lakes Water Authority's pipe, big 42-inch pipe. Been leaking for a long time. They've been watching it, but they never dug up to throw in a bypass. They could have done that. I I think they could have done that. Um, I don't know. I wasn't there on the ground, but listen, we have uh there's a lot of heavy equipment right here. We can dig holes very quickly around here, okay, and throw bypasses in pipes and all this stuff. So we'll see who's lying and uh we'll see who goes to court and we'll see who gets sued and we'll see what restaurants don't don't make it. But uh any thoughts to add in on that?

SPEAKER_04 16:10

A couple thoughts for you. Um you're right. If if this was left to the people, the citizenry to be in charge of this themselves, they would have this fixed pronto. I just want to say that. Second of all, uh if we had um I mean we you might question two weeks is gonna what kill these businesses? Yeah, I had I hate to uh to say this, but uh uh profit margins in restaurant in the restaurant business are razor thin.

SPEAKER_07 16:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 16:34

They they their profit rates are as minimal as you can get in any type of business. So I I would believe that wholeheartedly that this could destroy uh small businesses in the area. Um I just want to add something that's kind of anecdotal but true. Um I just had a conversation with a customer who bought a house. I don't know if I should say it or not. Can I can I say what city it was in in our area? Yeah. Up in um a very trendy town that was used to be a quiet country town that's turned into quite a liberal hotspot and or a a fun place to be because they've got a lot of great restaurants too. Sometimes those things go hand in hand a little bit. Uh, but it's uh the hometown of our good friend Jack Pine Savage, uh Fenton. Oh yeah, yeah. Uh and and she lived in an in a house that was uh over a hundred years older, maybe even older. This house is very old, it's been rebuilt several times. When they moved in, they immediately started having sewage backup and all kinds of issues. Well, they got sold a lemon, but the previous owners pulled a fast one and uh had a fr a friend of the family pass an inspection that wasn't legit. It's a big mess. But the the scary part of the story is this all the issues in their house come from the main, uh the water main in the middle of the street that is the city's responsibility. And they have a guy that's in charge of that uh that uh municipality of the the city water that who calls himself, it's on his business card, the bull. And if you do not use contractors that are his friends so he can get a kickback, he will gum up your entire project. He'll make sure that you can't get your stuff fixed. The corruption that this friend of mine encountered was was staggering. Um a lot of grifting, a lot of people looking for like you have to be within their network, and then they have to admit responsibility, and then they even then they won't admit responsibility. Long story short, this this young couple who was on a shoe uh uh shoestring budget um who bought a house and had a baby are now on the hook for somewhere between 25 and $30,000 uh to have their yard dug up when it's really the city's responsibility. The city's claiming that the that the main the water main in the middle of the street is is a six-inch pipe when reality uh scopes and cameras have revealed that it's only a three-inch pipe. Now they're seeing other people in their block. I guess the greater point is this. There's so much corruption in a lot of these cities. There's people just like this person I mentioned who won't let anything get done unless you go by them and you have to tiptoe around them and you have to use their contractors that they approve. And if you don't, they'll punish and impugn you. What what kind of corruption is going on behind the scenes in Auburn Hills right now with this watermaid break? How easy is this fixed and why is it not being fixed? And I mean, I don't, of course, I don't know, these are hypotheticals, but uh the story I heard from my friend was chilling, it was disturbing how she was being treated by by this by the city.

SPEAKER_02 19:29

Well did I say too much? No, no, I uh it goes right in hand in hand with this because I think they could have been proactive versus being reactive. They knew about it. I know city officials or certain officials around here that were talking about this on Friday night on Friday evening. That is just a trickle and we're watching it, it's underground, it's kind of leaking. Right then, they could have had at least a bunch of crews come in set up at nighttime in all Saturday. They could have dug, threw in a bypass, and nobody would have ever known. They could have taken care of that. All right, but I don't know, you know, so far, you know, I'm sure details are gonna come out, but right now it just seems like uh they were being reactive instead of proactive on this, and it's affecting so many people. So again, it's gonna come down to who owns that pipe, and I believe that's Great Lakes Water Authority. Uh but it's you know, it happened in Auburn Hills, uh, which is about 40 miles away from the the original source down there at Detroit River. So it's crazy, it's gonna be a good one to watch. It's not connected to anything up in Flint, so don't even think about that stuff. But Outcast, this brings me to our affiliate item of the week. One of them. All right, because we have a we have a couple of them. And uh after we do this, we're gonna get over to JC after our prayer. So, you guys, this week, after talking about all this and in the craziness going on, and a lot of people can't uh use their water, especially the businesses. Uh, it's gonna be a while. We don't know how long it's gonna be. But the uh the item of the week, one of them today, this week, is the life straw. It's a personal water filter for hiking, uh camping, travel, and emergency preparedness. I uh outcast, you have uh a few of these. I have some of these. Uh, they are great again, like I said, for emergency purposes. Um, you can put them in your backpack, in your car, whatever it is. If you have to come up along something and get a drink, this is gonna be one way to filter it. So, again, that's our link. If you guys want to click on that, you can do that. And again, that's our affiliate link uh of the week. It's the Life Straw Personal Water Filter. Uh okay, so what do what do you think about that? It's only like 15 bucks or something, but it's it's very simple.

SPEAKER_04 21:34

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SPEAKER_02 21:56

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SPEAKER_04 22:57

Good to know. That's good, that's good info. Thank you, music lover. Yeah, even a bucket. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 23:02

Yeah, sorry. So all right, I'll cast listen. We have to get a prayer from you. Let's bow our heads, and then we're gonna get JC Hall in the show. So let's bow our heads, everybody.

SPEAKER_04 23:13

Dear Heavenly Father, Lord on high, we uh we approach your throne, Lord, humbly, uh, in awe and in of your of your majesty and your the your just your I mean we can't even comprehend the vastness of your uh creation and how you work. And I I I mean just to imagine being at the foot of your throne just sounds so daunting. But at the same time, to think that you see us as family, that you grafted us into the family is just uh unbelievable, Lord. So we thank you for allowing us to come to you at any time and any place in our lives. And short or long prayers, whatever they are, we just were able to come to you at your throne through the shed blood of Jesus Christ who uh brought us into the family, Lord. I just I just want to ponder that for a minute and just soak that in of how amazing that is. Thank you, Lord, for for loving us and creating us, and thank you for making us in your image. We are your image bearers and we are your representatives here on earth, Lord. Help us to not take that for granted. We were um we were bought and paid for with a very high cost with the spotless, the blood of the spotless lamb and the high priest Jesus Christ. So have your way in us, Lord. Anoint our ministry, appoint our steps. Every listener out there, may they just uh allow you to enter in and heal the wounds of your heart that are hidden away, the unforgiveness, the loss, the tragedy, the pain, the betrayal, whatever it is, Lord, we welcome you in. Every single one of, if anybody out there is in agreement, just welcome Jesus into your heart right now and let him heal those hidden soul wounds. Refresh us, Lord, restore us, Lord. Help us to be made anew in your likeness. Help us to align our hearts and minds with the heart and mind of Christ so that we can convey your light into the world and rescue those around us who are still in darkness, chasing money, chasing sex, chasing parties, chasing acceptance, chasing whatever it is, status, clout, job title, whatever it is that that people have put as an idol in their life and it is destroying them slowly as they as they chase earthly perfection, when they can have perfection through you and only you. And only you can fill that God-shaped, that Jesus-shaped hole in our hearts, not drugs, not alcohol, not uh any addiction, not pornography, nothing. Nothing. We're gonna keep trying to put things there, but only you. So Lord, we we surrender our hearts to you again and again, and we ask you to sift us and show us any unforgiveness that's lurking in our hearts that we can relinquish. And we understand it might not be one and done. We're gonna continue to as those feelings percolate again, remind us, Lord, to just uh surrender that to you and just forgive anyone around us. Lord, I want to say a prayer tonight for um uh our brother in Christ, uh Jack Pine Savage. He's uh uh in charge of looking after his mother part-time. I think he shares duties, Lord. Um his mother has dementia. I've been there and I know how hard it is, Lord. So we pray that you'll lift him up on wings like an eagle. In the most hardest times, in the most disappointing times, in the scariest times where he sees his mom's mental health degenerate, Lord. We pray that you'll just uh tap him on the shoulder and let him know that you are right there with him. That you see him and that he's not alone and you'll give him the wisdom and the discernment he needs to go forward every day. As he, you know, don't let him lose heart, Lord. Help him to just stay focused on you. And this goes out to anybody else out there listening who is a caregiver. If you're taking care of anybody in your life, specifically right now, I'm talking about people with dementia. Um, it is a scary, uh, sad, heartbreaking thing to see the people who raised you um turn into children before your eyes, Lord, and forget the things you thought they would never forget. So, Lord, we pray that you'll strengthen them, uphold them, let them know that you are close to them, speak to them in those unique ways that only they would know it's you just giving them a nod that they don't have to understand everything, but they all they have to know is that you're with them and that you're gonna guide them one step at a time. They don't have to have the whole plan in front of them, they just need to know where to go next. So be with them in that, Lord. Um, Lord, I pray for anybody else that's struggling in their marriage, uh, maybe they're struggling with illness, a chronic illness, or or uh that an illness that contains um just chronic pain that will not relent. Lord, we pray that you will just be their comforter. Uh if you will if you could please guide them into the proper care or reveal something, a homeopathic or holistic cure that they can see online that they can try and maybe have success with. Or even more importantly, just put the healing touch of Jesus. We're asking for you to just touch those people right now and heal them right where they are at. Set them free of this physical burden so that they can live out their fullness in sharing the ministry of what you did for them, Lord. Sometimes we know, Lord, that the answer is no. Uh-huh. And our suffering is what draws us closer to you and helps us to recognize what Jesus went through on the cross. So if your answer is no, help us to just embrace that pain, knowing that you're teaching us a little bit about suffering because when we leave this earth, we're going to suffer no more. So help us to focus on you, Lord, in whatever our circumstances are, Lord. I I pray for um our guest tonight, JC Hall. He's a brother in Christ. We respect him, we love him, we love his intellect, we love his thought processes, we love that his knowledge of the Bible, we love his knowledge of other things too, about the Constitution. He is just an all-around uh man with wisdom and discernment, and we just are so proud to call him a friend. Lord, we pray that every listener will be edified by the things that come out of his mouth. And I pray that you will just put your anointing on Jesse and uh myself as and JC and all of our listeners. May we just join together in spirit as we commune together through this podcast, and may we just grow in the things that we learn and we discern and the things that you download into our minds. May they be conveyed in an articulate manner that has deep meaning for the listeners that they can write on the tablet of their heart and take into the world as part of their ministry. Um Lord, it seems like there's something else I want to mention. But uh that's it for right now. I think, Lord, um, thank you for for allowing us to have access to you. Thank you for uh the death of Christ, which tore the veil and made just brought us into your presence. No more tabernacles, no more curtains, just us in front of you. Lord, we our tears that they just just I I see them just covering Jesus' feet as we as we bow down before him and thank him for what he did for us, because otherwise humanity was lost. Thank you for the second Adam of Jesus Christ who came to undo what the first Adam did. Be with us tonight. Uh may everyone be edified and everyone be strengthened by what they hear here, and maybe they'll get a laugh too out of something we say. And uh I pray that everyone listening feels like family. I pray all this in Jesus Christ's holy and precious name. Amen.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

All right, brother. Thank you. Amen. I like that. And I'm sure JC is gonna enjoy that prayer too. So uh Jack Pine Savage, yes, he says, thank you, brother. Amen. Excellent. All right, you guys. Want to go to the other side uh outcast? Get JC on here? All right, we'll be right back, you guys, with JC Hall. All right, you guys, our good friend JC Hall is back on the show tonight, and we welcome a man who walked away from the constant noise of heavy political warfare to discuss or to focus on something deeper: personal growth, building his business, and sharpening his voice through writing. You guys, he's a good writer too. Uh, which means listen, I want you to go check out his Substack. You can read everything he does at the Cynical Patriot over on Substack.com at the Cynical Patriot. Also, JC's got a brand new business uh out of Florida, okay. Listen, it's JC's uh business called JC Plants. You can find that on Facebook and also it's JC Plants. I put all the links to all this stuff right here in the description of the show. JC Hall, it's been a long time, brother. How yeah, look at you. How you been, JC? Oh, I got I hang on. I've got you muted. Hold on. Dang it. There you go. JC, what's going on, brother? Good, man. Can you hear me all right? Yeah, yeah, we're good to go. How you doing? The Cynical Patriot. Look at it. Yeah, things are going great, man.

SPEAKER_06 31:32

Yeah, yeah, doing a little riding. I haven't uh putting any I haven't put anything up in the last little bit. I I have uh a couple things kind of in the hopper. I need to get them edited and put up there. So yeah, man, that's been fun. It's been a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02 31:47

It's been so long since uh you've been on the show. You know, we've been uh, you know, like kind of like I said there in there, uh we saw a personal growth uh come out of you. Isn't that right, Alcast? We like we we've watched something new, something that we can aspire to. Uh there's a video that I want to play in just a little bit, but Alcast, tell us a little bit more about that. We saw this transformation, we kind of felt it with you too. I mean, it was it was I like it, is what I'm saying, Alcast. What's your thoughts on that?

SPEAKER_04 32:13

Well, I'm gonna say that JC kind of is a reflection of um how we're all feeling. I mean, you get to a point where you feel like you're banging your head against the wall and you have to redirect your focus and focus on God in order to get clarity and to be able to move forward. This world is is a clown show filled with gaslighting and um disappointments through if we if you if you dig into politics, you're gonna be disappointed with the outcome frequently. Yeah, uh, because even when the people that you want in office are there, it doesn't mean things are being fixed because this is a broken world and things aren't going to go right here. So, so then in addition to that, we saw JC also, you know, get into motorcycles, which was kind of cool. You know, a new renewed freedom in that, and then start, it sounds like started your own business, which is a is a kind of a small unit, maybe you and just a couple other people and just raw grit and energy. But that's inspiring to people like me who I work for a company, and sometimes uh, you know, I long for that kind of uh uh entrepreneurial spirit to be on my own, but I'm I'm afraid. So your courage is contagious because when you watch people like you, JC, ex you just go, oh man, he's just living the free man's life and just making money that he needs based on his efforts and not somebody else's. Is that is that good? Is that am I on the right track? Jesse's definitely thought I was gonna say.

SPEAKER_02 33:28

Oh, yeah, pretty good. It's really good. And uh let's not forget, he they, you know, him and Chrisanne and everybody, uh, you guys went through the what Hurricane Milton when my you know, remember my youngest daughter, she was down there too, just miles away from you guys. But we uh long story. I mean, there's a there's so much you guys have been through over the last few years, you know. And I'm looking here. The last time you were live with us at JC was December 23rd, 2024. Uh, it was uh twas a couple nights before Christmas featuring JC Hall. We talked about multiculturalism and uh media's flu and flu. So just crazy stuff. It never ends, it's a cycle. Uh, but you seem to go get yourself out of it, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 34:12

Yeah, yeah, and I I don't know how many uh no. I I know a couple people obviously in the chat room that were that have been here a long time, but you know, um my wife is Chris Ann Hall. You know, we um were in the political realm, I guess you would say, for over 15 years, just you know, just fighting the fight and all that kind of stuff. I just really got um sick of it in plain language, just sick of it. I I couldn't do it anymore, man. And I I was I literally would feel like anxiety attacks, just thinking about the stuff, just listening to the news or whatever. So I I unplugged it's been um it's been over a year and a half now, I think. Um it was it was the previous December, not last December, but the previous really November-December time frame. Um so yeah, man, I I just I just decided that's not my focus. Um that's not what I want to do. So I got off, as you know, I got off all of social social media. I was off social media for like 14 months. I didn't have any social media accounts or anything like that for 14 months. And uh, as I told you guys before, once I unplugged from all of that, social media in particular, just the constant noise that the and I'm not talking about just being aware of what's going on. Um I'm I I'm I still stay aware of some things. Uh but what I'm talking about is just the emotional attachment, just like everyday grind of that stuff. Um when I let it go and and turn that noise off, man. My creativity shot through the roof, my clarity of thought was just unreal, man. I I I almost out of that, I look back and thought, man, I I don't know if I was able to really think. Uh because now I feel like I can finally think. And so it's it's a it's a weird thing. And I don't want to say my I'm not trying to be prescriptive for everybody. I you don't have to do what I do. I'm not saying um you know this is for everybody else, and I'm not being critical of people that are plugged in. Like my wife's still in the fight. I appreciate what people you know in the fight do. It just wasn't for me, if I wasn't supposed to be doing it, and so I had to sort of take control of what what I was supposed to be doing. And uh a lot of that, like you said, I found the outlet in the writing. I started writing a lot. Um drawing and kind of art creativity. I I'm I'm a creative, you know, so I have to create. And in the business realm, I found that in landscaping. I worked for a guy for about 14 months in landscaping, and so I finally decided to go out on my own and started my own business. So, you know, we design and install and so all that the designing and doing that sort of thing is you know is is a mode of creativity for me. Um but I but I feel that what Kapcast said about being scared, because I was just thinking the other day how much risk um you know, you have to embrace risk in starting your own business and going out on your own, and and it's it can be a scary thing, you know, because you you know you invest in certain in a certain way, you know, you put out money. Like for instance, I I um as a landscape where I can get wholesale uh prices on plants, and you know, sometimes they have sales and stuff. I buy up a bunch of plants and try to flip the plants, you know what I mean? So uh just a small example of of a risk, you know, okay, let me drop 200, 300, whatever, a couple hundred bucks into these plants. Well, what if they don't sell? You know, I've got sort of uh uh an expiration on those things. They're not gonna live forever. I gotta get these things sold. How am I gonna connect customers? Where am I gonna be? And you know, maybe it doesn't work out. So there is an element of of that um you know nervousness, let's say, uh about the risk you have to take to run a business.

SPEAKER_02 38:15

Yeah, totally. And right here, I'll as uh I'll cast you guys. Oh, I gotta bring JC's camera back on, but uh this is his website right here. And um, that's the wrong one. There we go. So this is JC Plants Landscaping, complete landscape solutions serving the Tampa Brandon, the villages area, the villages. I'll cast I'm 55 now. I can get in there, but uh yeah, he's doing it. Look at he's doing all kinds of stuff here. With uh uh we don't just sell plants, we build yards, uh, complete yards, uh, design, maintenance, um, install, privacy screen, sod, plant installation, local reliable, fair pricing. Look at you guys are actually in there. I mean, you got your own business. Okay, I've been doing this since 1992. And uh he's got more gusto than I do right now uh in getting this deep into it because uh you know, I'm trying to back away a little bit, and uh JC has jumped right in there. And uh man, I appreciate that. Uh, you know, that that's that's awesome. I I love new business. Uh, you know, people running and and owning new businesses. Yeah, go ahead, OK.

SPEAKER_04 39:23

And and and I appreciate your honesty, JC, that it was uh, you know, uh, you know, you were a little concerned about the the shift into that because like you know, somebody like me, I'm just like, man, is JC just courageous? It's like, no, he's just like you and I. He's he he he calculated the risk. Also, too, the type of work you're doing, uh, you know, when you're soding and leveling off, you know, grading and all that stuff, that's a lot of physical labor, dude. Um, you you have workers to do it for you, or you get in your hands in there and you're doing it too.

SPEAKER_06 39:52

Both. I I'm in there, man. I mean, you know, I I like if we have I I like to have a crew, you know, I got my son and uh he's got a bunch of strong friends, and so we we usually tap some of them. But I mean I'm out there doing it. I listen, I've been doing I did this landscaping consistently for about a year and a half when I when I unplugged. And I always had the attitude, man, if if I can't outwork anybody on the job site, I don't need to be out here. And so yeah, I I get these young bucks and I I try to, you know, let them do a lot of the heavy lifting and and you know heavy labor stuff, but at the same time, um, you know, I I and maybe that's pride in me, uh, but I just I just feel like I can outwork most of them anyway.

SPEAKER_02 40:39

Yep. Well, that's good. You're an old goat. That's what you are, like me. Just an old goat getting out there, you know, uh teaching these young bucks how to uh do some uh some sweating and some some hard labor. So listen, staying in the well, I was gonna go ahead.

SPEAKER_06 40:54

I was gonna I was gonna say just one thing uh other than the physical labor. We're in central Florida, so the real killer is not so much physical labor, it's the heat. Oh it's freaking hot here.

SPEAKER_02 41:06

Yep.

SPEAKER_04 41:06

I was wondering. I was wondering about that. Jeez, yeah. I don't think I could cut it.

SPEAKER_02 41:10

I couldn't. Every every time I was been down there, it's like, man, I'm finding the shade or the water, I can't be in the sun. It's just drives me nuts. But listen, there is a theme here because Outcast, when he was going through all this stuff, we felt the same thing. It's like, man, I'm so sick of this political crap. And I think that the show is is is reflects that from that point. Because we've gone into a whole bunch of other things, adding other things on. We're still talking about silver and gold and the and all the guns and all that. We still love all that stuff, right? But uh, we realized, I think, that this whole political sphere that we, you know, this whole matrix that we're unplugging from is um we realized it's it's probably not worth uh what am I trying to say? There's more things important than that, and and we've discovered this, okay? Now there's another guy that I want to share with you guys right now because when I watched this, I thought, dang, I gotta save this and play this for JC when he comes on. Listen, you guys, there's gonna be a little cussing in this, but I think it's justified. Check this out.

SPEAKER_01 42:12

Does anybody else just not give a shit anymore? I'm just tapped out. Hey, did you hear? Someone tried to off the president. I don't care. No, but the the war in Iran. Yeah, I don't care. I really don't give a shit. But the the but the Strait of Hormuz, the yeah, why do I know what that is? Aren't you mad that you know what that is? We shouldn't know what that is. I googled how long it takes to hard boil an egg this morning. I'm not gonna stand here and pretend I know about global shipping choke points with you. Strait of Hormuz? What is that, a yoga pose? You want to discuss the geopolitical and economical repercussions of the closing of the Strait of Hormuz? Didn't you like not graduate high school button? But AI is gonna take everyone's jobs. Good. No one works anymore anyway. You send an email no one gives a shit about. You drink at lunch and leave early. That's work now. You know what? Hey, I'll go first. You can have mine. I'll train it. Here's how you send an email no one gives a shit about, robot. I'll see you in World War III. But global warming. Dude, it's May and it's freezing out right now. It's cold until June now. And I'm pretty sure there's some shady spots on this island where there's still ice left from last winter. Last winter almost killed us. But don't you think it's important to stay informed? No, no, I don't. Because informed now means just knowing about 57 different horrible things that are going on that you can't do a goddamn thing about at all times. What if something big happens? How big can it be if I can't see it? If it's big enough for me to give a shit about, I'll be able to see it. And when I see it, I'll run away. Okay? But you used to care about this stuff. I did. I really did. I had my opinions, I read articles, I stayed up on things. But now, man, honestly, I'm just trying to find out why the remote is in the refrigerator. All right, I'm not built for this. You're not built for this. We we cannot actually care about all of this shit. It's not possible. So what do you care about now? The immediate well-being of my wife and kids, the way it's supposed to be.

SPEAKER_02 43:51

That's awesome. That's Keith Sullivan, too, over on TikTok. Um, man, he nailed it, you guys. Uh, it I've been feeling the same way for so long. It's frustrating. We have one foot in this, one foot in that. Eventually it's like, look, you know, we we all tend to do what JC did. And uh what's your thoughts on that, JC? Does that make you feel something?

SPEAKER_06 44:11

Yeah, man. I mean, that's he really summed it up. Uh that's that's where I went. And uh that's pretty well where I'm at. Um I I pay attention, you know, for instance, the uh Strait of Horn Moons, oh, the whole Iran thing. Uh I've I've tuned in um, you know, barely. I I don't again, I'm not plugged into any of that stuff every day, like just thinking about it and and getting emotionally connected. I've paid attention because I'm in landscaping and I have to buy a lot of gas, you know, to do what I do. So I just kind of tune in for curiosity, like, where is this gas price going? Is there a light at the end of the tunnel? Um, but even while I was doing that, I'm looking, I'm looking at the pump. I'm I'm thinking, JC, there's your answer. Like, why do you have to check all that stuff? Just look at like I can pull up Google and put in gas, and it shows me all the gas prices at the the gas station nearby. Like, so even that, I don't really uh I don't really need to even dig into that. So uh some of us just feel the curiosity. Uh you know, you guys probably remember I'm I'm always I always liked um you know foreign policy and geopolitics more than domestic stuff. So every now and again I get curious about what's going on in that realm, and I'll I'll look up, you know, hey, I'll type in Ukraine, uh maybe once a month, uh Iran. Okay, that's what's going on. Oh, the same thing, it hasn't changed in six months. Yeah, I figured. Um that's the one thing I saw over the years and years that we were in this. In fact, I think I told you guys this story. We went to, you know, we were missionaries to Haiti for a while and went down to Haiti one time, and we were there four months on this occasion and completely cut off from any sort of news, any kind of internet, anything like that. Um, so I for four months I I knew absolutely nothing. I didn't know anything that was going on as we were going down. Um the guy that I was with, you know, he was into the news and following all that, and and so we were listening, and so you know, I knew what was happening when we went in. When dark four months came out and turned the stuff back on, it was as if somebody hit pause and like it just started again. It was the very same thing four months later. They were saying the same stuff, doing the same stuff. Nothing changes. That's what you realize when you unplug and you kind of look, you know, peek back in from time to time. Uh you realize nothing changes. They it's the same thing over and over. You know, little little sort of flavors, little you know, context shifts just a bit, but it's just the same, uh, like like Alcat said, the same circus, the same theater, uh, over and over and over and over. And you can't do anything about that theater. There's 99% of it, there's not a damn thing I could ever do to affect it. So, why am I going to expend my emotional energy uh into what I I have no influence on whatsoever?

SPEAKER_02 47:25

Yeah. You know, um from what I remember hearing the Bolshevik revolution in in in uh what 1917 that took over uh Russia and you know the Russians and uh what 80 years, something like that that it that it ran and turned into the you know USSR. And um there was that's where we get the term um Pravda, right? The Pravda media talking about uh what was state, state media, state sponsored media. Well, after it was all taken over uh by these Bolsheviks, and you guys can look up where those people came from, uh, but they're they're here now. But um the people, the Russians, the the original Russians, from what I remember, they the way they approached media and the news, quote unquote the news that they were off fed, is that everybody came to realize that the media was nothing but prav the media and they laughed at it, they paid no attention to it. Uh, it took a long time, but eventually the media had no effect on anybody over there. It was just uh a circus theater for the people, uh, the Bolsheviks that were running it. Uh the the Russian people, they're like, no, this isn't this is not what we need. But uh, you know, I'm hoping, I'm praying for the day that we get like that here and realize that what we have is the problem media here. It's it's it's a it's a circus, it's a puppet show. It's uh, you know, it's nothing more than uh, you know, remember when um Mr. Rogers he'd go over there and in the and see the puppet show and all that? That's all this is. That's all this, but when enough people understand that and start acting appropriately and and pointing and laughing at the media for everything they're trying to do, like henta virus right now. Uh JC, until you just said it, I come Ukraine was off my mind. I totally forgot about Ukraine until you brought it up. You know, I don't even know what's going on over there, but they make good potatoes, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 49:26

Because they changed the topic. I mean, that's that's the whole thing. When you see, again, as I said, it's the same thing over and over again, but it'll be thus that same thing somewhere else. Like we're gonna do the same thing, but we want you to watch it here. I mean, don't watch that anymore. Now we're gonna do the same thing over here. Watch this. So it's just you know, they they they put up one distraction after another. Um so I don't know, man. I don't I I don't want to feel like that. Yeah, you know, some gerbil on a on a wheel or or or some little puppet on a string. Yeah. And and I I have found this as well, certainly in the patriot the patriot world that we were in. Uh my view and my position is not particularly popular. Uh like when I say you can't do you can't do anything. Oh, JC, you can run for office, you can petition this, you can petition that. Yeah, you can't, not me.

SPEAKER_07 50:22

Yep.

SPEAKER_06 50:23

Uh I'm like I'm like the guy, the guy on TikTok. I'm not, I'm not built for that. Um, and it's not worth it to me. So the the I I understand there are people who have that in them, and you know, make that's what they're supposed to do, and you know, we're supposed to have them, I guess. Uh that's fine. But it's but it's not me. So I I just found a lot of this is what was disturbing. I I don't know if we had this conversation sort of behind the scenes. Well, wasn't what was disturbing? It wasn't all you know, rainbows and roses when I left all this stuff. Um it felt like it was such a my leaving was such a shock to so many people. Yeah, um it it was not it was not pleasant to get the impression that you know people didn't really care for you as who you are, uh they cared for you based on the role they wanted you to play for them, and so I had to sort of come to grips with that. And just just you know, I decided to keep moving. Eventually people didn't act like that around me. Uh I I kind of felt like maybe they related me in that way because they they maybe wanted to drive me back to that oh JC, you're making a big mistake, you'll be back, you know, all this sort of sort of stuff. Um but I guess uh enough time went by that it didn't work out that way for them. And so uh people treat me differ differently now. I mean, I'm treated you know as as me, yeah, rather than JC, the whatever I was to to whoever. Um so you know that's one of the things that's same thing in all these these sort of instances of um stepping out, let's say, whether it's starting a business, whether you know it's just turning away from from what you've always done, doing something new. You're you're always gonna have you're always gonna sort of face opposition or face people that don't understand. Uh doesn't mean they're against you. It it just people are not good with change. Um so that's one thing I've learned. You just have to put your head down and be committed to to what you know is true for you, and uh and just keep moving forward in that because at the end of the day, that you know, the opinions of of everybody and their brother isn't is not what matters. Um and and I remember when it all when you know when I just said enough is enough, um, I said, you know what, I'm just I I'm after self-fulfillment and and you know it's about it's about living the purpose that I feel God has for me, you know. And I don't mean self-fulfillment as in, you know, I'm just just me and get whatever for me, whatever. Uh I I mean I have to I have to walk in what I felt I was supposed to walk in. And that's really what it was about.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

Yeah, that's awesome. I think we can both appreciate that, right, outcast. Um, JC, check check your mic. I you sound a little muffled. I'm not sure what mic you're using and what mic picked you up, but go ahead, outcast. See what you think what's your thoughts on what he said and what he's doing.

SPEAKER_04 53:30

So many thoughts, uh, so many thoughts. But I th I, you know, it's funny. I in my prayer, JC, I asked that you would say things that were edifying to the listener, right? And you're definitely doing that. I think that you're echoing how we all feel, and we and it makes us feel comforted to know that we are not alone in this journey. Um, you know, Miss Melody made a couple of comments over here that I I totally agree with. What if the fatigue is part of the plan? Which I think she's drawn to something. I think that's absolutely correct. That is part of the plan. They want to fatigue us to make us check out. But here's there's always a positive to the negative. The other part of this equation is that um, you know, what happened to most of us when we got politically activated in our late 30s, 40s, whatever it was, we we started believing that if we fought hard enough like our forefathers fought, we could maybe turn this ship around. And we got what we wanted when we when Trump was elected for a second term. And when we did we saw that nothing, I shouldn't say nothing, but yes, he was doing some good things. But for every good thing he did, there was something I didn't approve of. And I and I think for most of us we kind of it's disappointing. But at the same time, the the blessing is we realize that only God can fix this. I think that we what a lot of us were doing in our, you know, I think it was uh as a whole, humanity as a whole, conservatives at a whole, we were kind of like had this latent feeling in the back of our heart that, hey, you know, it'd be cool if we could get the right per people in there and they can fix this. Well, what that does is it's a hope in people, not God. And God is he's he's constantly correcting us and shaping us and helping us to see the big picture. And and think about how much closer all of us have come to God in this process. So if their plan was to fatigue us, to overrun us, what they've done is fatigued us to make us acknowledge a higher being and uh and in our relationship with God and to check ourselves and to realize where we are and standing with him. And not that we're earning our way into heaven, I'm not saying that, but where we are as far as our focus and where our faith is at. So God can take whatever was intended for evil and he can turn it to good. And I think I'm seeing that in JC, I'm seeing Jack Pine, I'm seeing myself, I'm seeing it Jesse, I'm seeing in everybody that that thinks like us that woke up a while ago, we are kind of like, oh, I get it, God. You don't want us to focus on a savior here. Our savior is is to come back. He's he was already here, he redeemed us, he brought us into your presence. Uh, he's at the right hand of God and so of the at the of the God in heaven, and so are we because of him. That's amazing. That's good stuff. So there's a lot going on here. I think that um they aren't trying to fatigue us. I don't think, I mean, maybe they're trying to wake us up, but I think they're fatiguing us, but at the same time, they're teaching us who who that where our priorities lie. I love it. I'm I'm happy about this because uh no man is coming to save us. They're all corrupted. Uh the reason nothing works right, you know, it it is futile for JC's friends to say, hey, maybe you should go into politics. You can fix this, JC. They don't want people like JC who are qualified or their character is good. They are looking for intentionally for the people who are the least qualified and the most compromised. Those are the puppets they want in place. We watched it here in Michigan. We have uh Carla Wagner, who we've been endorsing on the show for governor. She has not been she has not been pre-chosen by the insiders club. She's got fight, she's got moxie, she's got stamina, she's got everything that we would want as a leader for Michigan. They want nothing to do with her. Why? Because they're looking for the ineffective. They are looking for the weak. They don't want good, strong people in place. Now, another thought I want to share. Sorry, guys, I just JC, when he's talking to my synapses, we're going. I saw an article. You might so some people might think this is wacky or strange, but I I liked it. Uh I I it resonated with me. It was some article online about how um take it or leave it. But theme parks, um roller coaster parks are technic are are designed to be um emotion harvesting centers. Underneath there are facilities that none of the staff can access, nobody has access to them, but they they generate nostalgia, they generate fear, they generate like because you're on the roller coaster, uh, adrenaline, there's all these things, and they are if there's any truth to that whatsoever, which I don't think it's a stretch personally, because I look at the world from a spiritual vantage point, but if the if the enemy is is emotion harvesting, why would they just stop at a theme park when they can turn the entire country and the entire world into an emotional harvesting center for the for the dark side? They're gonna they're gonna gaslight us, they're gonna scare us day to day with a different psy-op. Here comes another one, here comes another one. And and and Jesse and I were making a list of to do a segment on, we haven't done it yet, and we were listing all the past psy-ops that we forgot about that came and went. Like like the Mahdi, this guy that shows up and he was gonna be the the Mahdi, and then all of a sudden he was gone. Uh that's just one of many. We we were making a list, and I thought of another one today. I can't remember what it was offhand, but I was just like, there's another one that that came to mind. I cannot believe how many different things they've tried on us. They know that they're losing the battle. So JC's let me get back to JC. So JC's unplugging is exactly what I think that we need to do to win this battle. If we're invested in this machine with our emotions through Fox News or CNN or whichever, or the view, or whatever it is that you choose to as your vehicle for for hope and change through humans, and they watch your emo your emotions go up and down, and they repeat the script over and over again, and they re and they actually literally repeat movie scripts. I just saw a thing the other day that had it showed all the parallels between Harry Potter and Star Wars. When you see it, your jaw will be on the ground. You're like, what? I never thought about it like that. They totally stole, stole the entire theme of Star Wars for a new generation and called it Harry Potter. Why? Because they need us on a loop, and that loop is emotion harvesting, right? And keeping us stuck in the matrix. So what JC's actually living out in his his pursuit, and when he went out on a limb and said, I'm gonna do this, even though I have doubts and fears about doing this, he did it anyways, is he is decoupling from the system so they can no longer harvest his emotions for hope in humans. He is decoupled and plugged into the God of the universe. How amazing is that? Sorry, guys, I I'm just on a consciousness role.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

I like it.

SPEAKER_04 59:34

Jason.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

I'll shut up. That's good, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_06 59:37

Yeah. Uh let me I switch microphones. I hope that's better. Um, you know, the one one thing I learned, uh one thing I realized uh along the lines of what Outcast is saying there, I when I unplugged from the news cycle, I began to realize how much of the conversation that was going on in people around me was simply a reflection of what they're being fed from the media. Uh just as I just as I said, um I felt like I had not been able to think clearly. And suddenly I just I just had this experience of of thinking and thought, wow, I mean I'm sharp, man. I just I just thought of that, like like figure stuff out and get to the root of the matters quickly. My my thoughts were so clear. So that's the one thing I've realized in the midst of this, even well-intentioned people, and I'm I'm not talking about crazy people, I'm talking about patriots, you know, and all that. Um I I don't I don't know that they think as clearly as they think they do. You know, some of the opinions we have and some of the things we say, just like the political thing. I I I thought about this uh for a lot of folks in the political fight like like we were, the activist realm. And I thought to myself, would all of those people, if they had never watched news or news media, would they have been activists if it hadn't been for the the sort of informational influence and and the emotional uh shaping that we were exposed to? Would would we have made the choices and made decisions that that we made anyway? Uh because I was you know a square peg and a round hole. It was not what I should have been doing. And I did it for 15 years, um in that because of all the context and you know what we were in and the influence around and you know, a lot of different decisions. But um for me, I I and yeah, there's a fatigue aspect, but I but I thought about this when you said fatigue. What is fatigue? Fatigue is the expenditure of personal physical resources beyond uh right what you what you should or what you are capable of of doing, right? So it is inherently a an expenditure of resources. So it wasn't a matter of for me saying, Oh, I'm tired and I just got to quit this. It was me identifying the allocation of resources and saying, no, that doesn't deserve my emotional resources, my spiritual resources, my physical resources. So it was about what uh what outcast said, priorities. It was about realizing priorities. And and I just decided I'm not gonna waste my life pouring into something that I don't find personally valuable. Uh, and again, I I I have to keep saying this. This is not a critique for those in that realm. If that is your calling, I'm I fully support that. What I I'm talking about, me. And there may be somebody out there liking me. You think you're supposed to be doing these things, but you know, maybe listen to this, you realize that that you're you're in the group that I'm in. That this is not what you're supposed to be doing, and what it does to you and what you what you have to go through uh may not be worth it. It wasn't worth it to me. Uh, I mean, I'm happier. Uh I feel great when I got got out of all that stuff. Uh and again, am I am I concerned? Am I informed? Yeah, I think I'm informed. I think I'm concerned. But if I want to find out something, I don't sit in front of some talking head and listen to what they say about it. I I I dig and research, you know, and and figure out what's going on. But I I do not I don't scroll on social media. I don't, you know, I'm not locked into that. I'm not plugged into some newscast or or somebody's opinion on a daily basis. Um, I I think that's one of the dangers. The sort of, and I and I realize all of us have been in the podcasting realm. We're on a podcast now. But I I think there is a danger side to just sort of streaming information. You're just sitting there and soaking and listening, and it's just coming at you. You're not actively engaging, you're not actively the one doing the searching and thinking. There, there's sort of a thinking mechanism that kicks in when it's just you digging, you researching, you learning, you're going, finding out uh and digging this stuff up rather than sitting and listening and watching, and it's just coming, coming at you. And so I think there's a passivity that's been uh created within our uh thought processes by the structure that has been built around us. And I think it's really shaped uh our our our minds and our thinking ability uh in a way that that sometimes we don't even realize uh to what extent that's happened to us.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:40

You know, I love that. And you know what makes me think of too is like you know, the the Bible is um it's the living, breathing word of God. And and it and no matter what you're going through in your life, you could read the same verse at different points of your life and it'll take on different meaning. And when you read your Bible, there's so many aha moments and these moments that just they pierce your heart. They just right here. And you're right, when I'm scrolling, I'm listening to what people are saying, I am not connecting and feeling. Uh JC, you hit me hard with that. That's huge. Uh that scrolling, I do a lot of it and I share a lot of stuff with our text thread, and I know it's sometimes doom and gloom, but I'm like, if I gotta, if I gotta see this, I gotta share this with the guys that I care about the most. Like I want them to see it. But yeah, they're probably thinking, oh, here's another link from Outcast that's gonna be some kind of doom and gloom. But I'm just like, I'm taking in so much of that. But if I made more time, because I know that's rewarding when I read my Bible, if I put that same energy into reading my Bible, those aha moments, those discoveries, that is so much far more rewarding and and life changing and character changing and faith building. And everything we're doing on the internet is just like, how about this? How about this? How about this? And they're telling you what to think and that they're not really engaging you to think in the word. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_06 1:05:53

Yeah, it's it's it's a programming technique. You know, uh when I uh when I went through, I went through college for a psychology. Degree, I remember uh you know, BF Skinner was one of the most striking uh parts of that, and just just the the behavioral programming. And all the social media is built in that way. If you if you go and study BF Skinner and you study those behavioral techniques, all the social media works in that in that exact same way. And it's funny, I I saw Jack Jack Pine's comment uh about about the young people's, you know, on TikTok and whatnot. Um it's it's interesting. You know, we talk like the, you know, oh, you know, just scrolling and looking at your phone. You sound like some kind of boomer, right? But what's interesting is watching uh young men and women, my son's age, 19, uh, these teenagers and 20-somethings, they have they're having the same uh same mindset. They're like, uh, you my my son left social media and a bunch of his friends, they don't even have social media. Good. And you know, and I I I find a lot of young people today um, you know, unplugging and thinking differently than what we'd assume. You know, they they try to put out uh you know the David Hogg crowd, and that's supposed to be all the young people. And I tell you it's not. And we've had this conversation before, Chris Ann and I, as we traveled, you know, we ran into a lot of young people, 20-somethings, teenagers, and uh and found, you know, this group rebelling against the leftist, you know, control mechanism, you know, not just leftists, but but this whole cabal and this whole control uh mechanism. And and that's uh that's spread far and wide. And um I've I've mentioned this before to you guys. It it co it corresponds to um that great book I discovered called The Fourth Turning, and talking about that generation. So you have this alternating generations that rejects, you know, they reject their parents' worldview and they adopt more so their grandparents' worldview, and that flip-flops constantly. Um so you know, why does it sound like a boomer, you know, boomer saying, uh, it's going involved. Well, because that's now our kids are now adopting our parents' you know, uh, viewpoint in in that in a lot of sense, you know, have that sort of core um about them. And so that, you know, I that's um encouraging, let's say. Uh I see that a lot. And a lot of times, as I've said before with you guys, you know, we got to travel and see a lot of places. A lot of times you just see where you are, and if you don't see it, you're discouraged. Oh, all the kids I know they're always on their phone. Uh, and yeah, that's that's generally too true, not just kids, but adults, everybody. Uh but yeah, there's definitely a generation that that's uh that's a lot different. So I have hope uh in that sense for my son's generation, the hero generation. If you read the fourth turning, he he and his his his uh friends are the hero generation. And uh so I think they're headed in a good direction. They're they're sort of the anti uh you know, anti-World Economic Forum mindset. Like they're these kids are the opposite, and they're gonna be the ones in charge sooner or later.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:06

That's great to hear. I love hearing that. Um that's yeah, that's that's the best. And I think a lot of kids are going that way too. My oldest daughter, she's uh she got rid of the iPhone, she's got a flip phone now. I went back to that. And um enjoying got rid of all the social media too. Um, enjoying the heck out of that. So uh you know, I I welcome it. Uh again, we just have to get back.

SPEAKER_06 1:09:27

And again, you you can use it. Again, I I don't, you know, I I want to say clearly, I'm not uh I'm not prescriptive with this. You know, I'm not saying you can't do everything that I do or or think this way. Um but the one thing I would say when I talk about unplugging from social media and and the sort of political whatever, you can still be uh you can still pay attention, you can still be informed. Most of what I'm talking about is the is the emotional attachment. The influence. Yeah. The the weird, there is a weird attachment that people have been trained into, uh, particularly in the political realm, that I don't think is healthy. I don't I think our mental health is under assault in this country.

SPEAKER_07 1:10:11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:10:11

And uh it's just not healthy. Both sides to see to see people just like you know, I don't know, uh Jay Paul or uh Ilhan Omar or whatever says something crazy and and conservatives, I mean, just just enraged, no plectic uh about this stuff. Same thing with the Trump derangement syndrome on on the other side. But the idea that you can get that emotionally invested in a person you don't know, uh, and a person in general has now you've been taught, you've been taught the opposite, but in general, they don't have much influence over your life in your life. Um, and and just just this intense emotion about really perfect strangers. I I just there's something abnormal about that. And that's where that's where this uh the news cycle in social media has brought us. And so if for nothing else but your mental health, uh, I would say people need to begin to start unwinding their emotional attachment to these things. And and I think outcast alluded to it. Uh, I think you you enter into that process by stopping and thinking about what is really important in life? What are the things, and not just in life in general, but what are the important things in your life? Who is important in your life? And so, of all the the if we could calculate all the time that we devoted to paying attention to what Trump's doing, what's going on in Iran, you know, the U UAPs, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, uh, how much of that time do different individuals in your life deserve of that time? Like we're wasting valuable time that you'll never get back, that you could spend with those who are really important and really meaningful in your life and activities, things, accomplishments, goals, endeavors that are really important and would add value to your life. And we're wasting it on nonsense and perfect strangers, perfect self-important, self-appointed rulers of the universe, uh, who really are meaningless. Yeah, they're not, we already know they're not good people. And so I I I just I just I I feel it's almost a moral thing to me. I I feel almost dirty. I feel somehow uh I'm doing something wrong if I give of myself to these people.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

You know, man, while you were just saying all that, uh JC, it I'm staring at your face talking, and you brought back a lot of memories for me. Back before any any of us knew each other, we know each other on a personal basis now. Um, but before we any of us knew each other, I'll say back in 2012, here I am sitting on a lawnmower. Mmm mower, just mmm, you can hear that all day long. Well, I used to listen to sports then, sports radio. That didn't last long because it's like, man, I got to a point where like I'm not learning anything, and this is wasting my time. I'm sitting on this mower all day. I need to listen to something that really fulfills me. Uh, get that it's something that I can learn from. So I somehow, before podcasts were even big, I found this lady, this little lady, Chris Ann Hall, talking about constitutional stuff. This is when Obama was in office, talking about constitution and all this stuff, and that got me really excited. Uh, and I just kept listening to her over and over again. I started, I don't know if I emailed the show or something, and then somehow you came along because I didn't see JC Hall for a long time. You weren't part of that show that was syndicated for a long time. It was structured and everything with uh the commercial breaks and all that, and then at some point I I realized this JC Hall knows Chrissanne somehow. I figured out it was the same last name and all that, but um, and I don't know, I I don't remember the the platforms back then that were I started reaching out to you guys and you started answering back. And then I started sending pictures of my lawnmower in this the yard that I was in and saying, Hey, that I thought this was great. Um fast forward what nine years to 2021, and me and Outcast had just met five years prior to that, or four years prior to that, something like that. And I said, We gotta have a podcast because I've been wanting to do a podcast for so long. I think you guys uh gave me that inspiration to do that, and it it jumped off, and now look, you we we we were in in uh Georgia, we met each other, we hung out, we had dinner together, breakfast, whatever. Uh and I'm just sitting here looking at all this stuff. How the heck did all this happen? Because we didn't know each other personally until we met through this electronic medium. But now look at us now, we're all trying to I don't know, step away. I I'm thinking more of using it to our advantage against them who are trying to use it against us, but yet we've come to this friendship that is amazing, I think. And it's just I don't know why you were talking there, all that just hit me at once. I'm probably not making any sense for anybody, but it happened, and that's where I'm at. I'll cast I don't know how you feel about that.

SPEAKER_04 1:15:46

No, you're making total sense. And I I and to me, it looks I don't know if this is the correct terminology, JC. Correct me if I'm wrong, like divine providence. It's like God has intended for his children. Maybe we four knew each other in before we were selected to come here now, right? I I don't know how it all works, but I'm just thinking out loud. I mean, there's a purpose in all this. And it's funny because when JC was talking earlier too, Jesse, I was I was kind of goofing on, I'm looking, I'm going, I'm so grateful to have this man in our life because he's he's grounded, he's faithful, he's intelligent, he's courageous, he's everything that we aspire to be. He's a brother in Christ. And um, and I feel like that about many people that we're friends with through this podcast too. Yeah, but just to have him on, it's just like, wow, this is so cool that that God has brought us together. People, great people. Uh, like you you just told me today, you're gonna book uh Scott Mitchell. He's the same caliber as JC Hall. He's a he's an amazing guy. He's just he's one of us. It's just God keeps bringing his children together, I feel like.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:45

You know what I mean? I like it. Yep, I do. Yeah, I know what you mean. Uh all right, JC. Sorry about all the gushing and all that stuff, but uh, it's it's real and it happened. You know what I'm saying? It happened and it's real, and I enjoy it and I like it. And uh you tell Chris Anne if she's around, just tell her we said hi and we appreciate her. But we I want to talk about what we start. You started the conversation today a little while ago. All right, and it was fun because I we mean the outcast, we both really like it, and I think a lot of our our people enjoy this topic. And what it is, you guys, he's gonna throw me under the bus. Do you believe in time travel? No, no, no, we're not this is such a great topic. We've talked about this a lot here on the show. We've you know, we've looked into a lot of this kind of stuff, outcasts, we've had a great time, and whenever the topic comes up, I'm fascinated, I'm intrigued. Uh, it always leads to the Bible. And when you said that out or uh earlier, um JC, you said, Do you guys believe in time travel? And we were like, Well, in a certain way. Well, I just happen to have this book, it's called Time Travelers of the Bible by Gary Steerman. This is this is sitting at my in my nightstand right next to the gun. Okay, it's right there. I mean, I was like, JC, I'm gonna show you this book when I get home. So so it's so funny that you talked about that, and then we got into it a little bit talking about you know this and that, some some excerpts and some things that are in the Bible that are just just wild. Uh, but I don't know if it's for us humans to to to be in that. I know our government and military complex, they dabble in this time travel thing. I don't know if they've had any uh luck at it, uh, like they would tell us if they did or not. But I know they've done looking glass and they told us all about what they found there, didn't they, outcast? But uh this whole time travel thing, it's fun for me. I like it. And whether we can do it, I doubt it, but maybe just because we're human. But I think I don't know, where am I going? Because we talked about this earlier, you guys.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:46

Well, it was we had a fun debate. I unfortunately I was uh I was driving at the time, so I was not uh as engaged as I normally would have been because I was trying to text and drive, which I know I shouldn't do, but I do it all the time. Um so sorry if I was a little light with my communication. I think this is a fun debate. Um uh JC, I I don't know if who wants to go first, but my thoughts off the top, just to get the ball rolling here, is this. Um, I have heard uh recently a near-death experience where a guy was in a coma for 18 days and he claims he was taken uh into the third heaven. And he said that he was shown like he said it f there was no concept of time. And he even though he was in a coma for 18 days, it felt like he was gone for five minutes, but he saw everything. He saw so many things that would take months to see. So, in other words, the the the time, you know, God is out, he's omniscient, omnipresent, omnipotent, he's outside of time. So when you're in that domain, time is irrelevant. Our time, I mean, I think is relegated by the fact of how much time do you have left before you die, essentially. We're here for a limited engagement. So we're constantly looking at this linear time thing, going, well, you know, that's how we gauge, we look at the world. But when you are a spiritual being outside of that, let's say in the third heaven, uh, how relevant is it? It's not. And and he said he it felt like he saw so much, but it also felt like this condensed amount of time, it was really weird. It was uh how he explained it was bizarre. So I thought, okay, it's not necessarily time travel uh per se. Time travel is entertaining to consider. I think if the government would have had, if anybody could figure out how to do it actually, they would be doing it actively and they would try to go back and kill the Messiah. I really think that I don't think that they can. I don't think God can allow it. I think while we are stuck here in this existence, uh there's a lot of limitations. And and God's not going to allow us to go bouncing around at will and messing up what his creation and his and what he's done. Um, but where we got into the lively debate was, you know, Jesus saw Elijah and Moses at the top of Mount Herman before he trans uh uh transfigured. So so was he he got a window. I I mean this way I look at it, not so much time traveling. He didn't go moving through that time, but he had a window into the spiritual realm which knows no time. And that's why everybody was visible. Does it make sense? Yeah. So I'm I'm not an expert on the subject, but that's kind of where my my mind goes. Um I I I just think that if the government could do it, I think they're actively trying to, they would, like I said, uh it's no no ex no it's no coincidence that the the main character that they're trying to kill in the Terminator is John Connor. His initials are JC. That's that's a clue as to what they would do if they could kill if they could kill Sarah Connor, who is Mary, uh the mother of Jesus, they would do it. Yeah. Um just thinking out loud.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:35

Go ahead. Oh JC, come on. Uh JC, you have those initials too. It's a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:42

All right, you want to okay, you want to get me to give my take.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:45

Well, oh no, no, only if you want. I mean, it's like we're having a good time with this. No, no.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:49

Yeah, yeah, man. So I uh let's say how did I phrase this? Because I gotta be very specific, like I did in the chat. Um, so I here we go. I said, I don't believe in the possibility of mortals by their own power and ingenuity moving from one point in time to another. So now I do believe that the government obviously has attempted these things and pursue these things. They would they would want to do these things. Um so I I probably should add another cat uh uh caveat. I don't believe it's possible without severe consequences. Let's let's put it that way. Um I so I so in general, do I believe humans are capable of time travel? No, I don't. Uh I think what we see in the Bible, in those instances of what people call what people refer to as time travel, uh, if you look closely at them, they I would I would characterize them as God-initiated, God sourced. Um so it's different categories. Uh obviously God could move someone or whatever. I I don't know that we see him doing that in the sense of from one point in time to another. Uh, I believe the instances in the in the Bible, they appear to me to be instances of revelation. So people are shown the future, they're given understanding of future outcomes, they're seeing, you know, they they they get visions and and things like that. But one of the one of the things I think is a problem in the discussion, and again, probably a lot of people are going to disagree with me, but this is just one man's opinion. The problem in the discussion, I people talk about time. I don't agree with Einstein, by the way, so let's just get that out there. I think Einstein's wrong. And but that's colored how we talk about this. Um people talk about use that word time like it's a physical thing, you know. And I guess Einstein with his dimension, time is a dimension. They say space-time. Uh, I I don't believe that. Time is a measure. Yep. Uh so time is is what you would refer to as an emergent uh property. It emerges from reality, like temperature. So we take the temperature of something. There's no actual temperature, there's no such thing as a physical thing, uh, some substance or substrate that's temperature. It's a measurement of some other thing. So that that's what I see. I think time is. So I think there's some category confusion going on where we're we're referencing something, then it's become this sort of physical destination. So I don't think time is a physical destination, in my opinion, because I believe, and this here is here is the crux of the matter for me. Uh I believe uh, as the Bible says, we're fearfully and wonderfully made. I think I think every single person is an irreducible, unique individual who is who is themselves a becoming, a progressive becoming, right? So you are you are a single person and you are uh what we call time, right? When you think of okay, I was 20 years old, now I'm 60 years old, so so time elapsed. Time didn't elapse. Reality moved on. You you continued to experience reality. We measure that reality with what we call time. But uh but but but that's not time. Time didn't do anything, time didn't move, you moved. Reality continued to progress, right? So in that sense, um I think time travel, like if I went back and met me, that does tremendous damage to the concept of personhood. Uh who is JC? If there are two two instances, two instantations of JC in a singular location, which one is JC? And what if I do what if uh you know 50-year-old JC disagree with 20-year-old JC, who's right? So, I mean, so there are a lot of problems I have just conceptually. I think uh, you know, it's not a it's not a physics, it's not a scientific discussion, it's a metaphysical argument for me. Um, I I think there are metaphysical implications that the way God built our reality for us, by the way, I love Doctor Who. Um the way God built our our dimension for us uh has those particular constraints. Now, as you said, as you mentioned, Jesse, God is outside of time, God is in a different dimension. Because he's not becoming, we are in a process of becoming. Human beings are in a linear progressive process of becoming. God is not becoming, he is. And then, you know, say like Moses and Elijah coming from that dimension to this dimension. Moses and Elijah had arrived. They're also done, right? They're no longer, they were no longer becoming at that time. They they they were both dead in in you know, from our perspective. So they didn't time travel, they moved from one dimension to another dimension. And so so there's heavenly dimension, earthly dimension. And so because of Einstein and this and and the scientists who added, you know, who who kind of took that uh term dimension, and then they added the sort of secular uh idea in the secular idea of time that they pushed in there so his math would work. Um, which by the way, I think is is really stupid the way that's way you know the relativity thing has been portrayed, like still a theory. That's nonsense. The that's all built on on the idea of light, the speed of light, and how we perceive something in a distance. So when you see a star, because the time it took the light to travel, that star's already gone. So they're actually taking that. observational reality and applying it to a physical oh well you travel and come back they'll be young you'll be old that that they don't even that's not even the same thing so just because I you know see something out there and it's actually older than what I'm seeing it is because how long that appearance took to reach me it doesn't mean that that thing's gonna be physically old when it arrives and I'm young or I'm old and it's young when it arrives. That's idiotic. So that sort of framing of the theory of relativity that seeped into popular culture, I think has really messed up our thinking about this issue of time. And again that's just my opinion. So I don't take time as a destination and a person again an irreducible uniqueness is a person. So they're not some movable object that can be transported you know from this coordinate to that coordinate uh in their uh experience of reality because then that that eliminates your individual personhood you're you're just some thing that moves back that that can be moved around manipulated back and forth. So I honestly okay this is going to sound crazy. I'm a huge sci-fi fan I write sci-fi uh but on the other hand I think sci sci-fi has been used to plant such distorted thinking into our minds about so many things uh and and we don't even realize you know how we came to these conclusions.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:26

Science is a weapon anyway that's my take on it yep yeah I I agree science is a is a weapon and they continue to do science is a weapon on us right now today you know during that whole text thread too um and and even uh music lover she said it too but I said we are mere humans equipped with a uh to to to a more simplified realm whereas these angels see everything all at once the fallen angels and the good angels right uh we're not privy to that realm they're right here right now they can see us we can't see them because we're just humans all right we're not we what are we three dimensional is that it is that pretty much about it for us right now maybe four if I don't know if you get some some deep stuff but I don't think that we're allowed to see these things for a reason right now I think we will be when we step out of time when we pull we're pulled out of time when we no longer worry about time and it's more of a dimensional look we'll get there at some point I believe because I think we're destined for that um but I gotta tell you well I think here here's the thing yep go ahead here's the thing about that time you know the heavenly dimension earthly dimension thing when you talk about time there's no time there because there's there's nothing to measure right time is a measure omnipresent yeah it's not a thing it's not a thing it's a measurement of something yep so that that which we measure here with what we call time is not there it doesn't exist there's nothing to measure so that's why there's there's no time yep uh you're you're now in that state of eternality yeah that's the that's the nature of angels that's the nature of God that's not our nature at this moment that's a nature of someone who has passed and now has a that's what we mean by glorified body people say you're gonna get a glorified body you you've now been transformed into um let's say that a a dimensional being right a heavenly dimensional being you've taken on that true form which is your true form by the way so we're we're in a we're earthly dimensional beings uh where we are in in the reality God constructed for us here so we're not the same as angels we're not the same as a saint who is passed on uh we have a different nature at this point than they have so so it's not going to be the same so you can't look at like you know the the transfiguration I don't see that as time travel it they traveled through time because they lived here and they lived at different times and now they're there at the same time so therefore that's time travel that's dimensional travel they they are beings now of another dimension that that because of their nature they can move into this dimension yep right just as Jesus came down from his dimension to get here but you can't climb up into their dimension Jesus had to tear the veil and will be pulled into that dimension by God himself.

SPEAKER_06 1:32:15

And I think that's what we see in those instances in the Bible God is doing these things God's the one moving God's the one revealing so where I where I say no is for man mortal man by his own ingenuity by some process by some device that he creates is time travel is not a possibility because we don't have that divine nature. If I said this to you Jesse uh if we were to somehow let let's say somebody hijacked let's say there is an angelic technology uh that that enabled them to do this that God said hey take this and then you can be able to do whatever let's say man hijacked that and they somehow you know reverse engineer it or or just use it or whatever uh I think that would do damage to the person using that because they don't have the nature that goes with the technology right I think I if there is a technology uh like this then I believe that it's keyed to these beings of a different dimension and we wouldn't be able to use it without being uh fundamentally changed the nature of of whatever whatever Mortal is using that would either be destroyed or somehow fundamentally altered.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:30

That's where you start that's what I was talking about the fallen angel technology the fallen angel tech in outcast I want you to talk about the L and the the the job of the L, the EL OHIM okay in a minute. But uh yeah right there JC um it seems like there are reports of fallen angel tech that we're trying to recreate here on earth you know our military our uh private private uh mil military industrial complex you know the Raytheons the Boeings the the skunkworks all these things are trying to recreate something that they know of and they I think that they know of these realms I think they know of these realms I think so too and I think that's and I think it's a Pandora's box. I do too yep and I think that's going to become uh a future uh a narrative that they're gonna use very shortly with this you know the the deception uh uh that's coming and I think that they are they're trying to steer the public into that deception versus knowing that it's angel fallen angel tech um another thing too you you were talking about the the sci-fi movies and how they interpret things coming out of Hollywood because they're guided on how they want to present a narrative uh and it's funny because with all these movies that are out there there's a lot of fun great movies that we've all come to fall in love with and and have a great time watching right um but they're all pushing the same style narrative all right there music lovers she's got one right here talking about Stargate I mean that's a great one who we've all seen Stargate right uh long SG1 uh for a long time ago there was something last night that we watched I had no clue what my daughter's like you guys we should watch this it was called the substance it's really good for about three quarters of the movie then it goes crazy it's got a whole mix of stuff like uh clockwork orange and carry and back to the future and just it it turns in nonsensical at last last uh quarter of the movie but the first uh three uh three quarters of it you guys completely insane she ends up I don't I'm not gonna give it away but she ends up seeing herself in reality as the old lady she is and then she sees herself as the 20 year old she was and they're both looking at each other it's crazy the way they get there but it's even more wild what happens after when they're in stuck in the same reality knowing that it's the same person. The young one's looking at the old one uh in disgust and the old one's looking at the young one in jealousy it's insane you guys that's the substance tons of crazy wild nudity and all this nonsense but um it's just it it it touches the barrier of time travel and crossing dimensions again now we can go back to the book the old school book from the 1800s the Baron Trump collection with those those three three uh three books written by uh Ingers Ingersoll Lockwood talking about all the time travel and talks about this future stuff and look how much of it uh with Donald Trump in Fifth Avenue and the golden tower and the the last president all this stuff how it it's all it's all coming in there it's like I don't know if this is prophecy um what is but it's it it goes back into the same realm uh there there's another one that I really enjoyed watching it's uh on it's it's called 112263 and it's about the murder yeah of JFK JFK so fascinating interesting how they do this time travel stuff in there but is is science is Hollywood parroting mimicking coercing us into looking at something that uh they they are planning to deliver to us here in the future I you know every there's questions everywhere but I'm having a good time with it and uh you come in here uh answer any of that stuff and throw in the EL stuff too will you please well I just I I of course I'm not an expert I'm just I'm just a schlub out here pontificating just sharing some thoughts and I'm glad that Evan brought up the Baron von Trump thing in the in the chats I I find that story compelling and interesting and fun to consider.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:41

I love like when we started this conversation earlier today I was just like I love the concept of of time travel in a way it's also terrifying to think about on on a multitude of levels. But let me just about you know you're talking about fallen angel technology and and and I'm just gonna think out loud here just for a second, see if this has value to anybody. So we look at the book of Enoch and we learn what um what the fallen angels taught their children they didn't teach them about technology and or time travel. They taught them uh the ridding of the clouds the ridding of the stars uh alchemy uh sword making breastplate making shield making sword making the art of war root cutting root cutting okay a lot of new age kind of uh stuff that new age is rooted in is what the fallen angels gave now just thinking out loud here don't don't please don't crucify me no pun intended for no intent saying something that you you guys yeah just just no apologies all right so so if we look at let's say possibly um the gap theory and we say that there that pre-Genesis there was potentially an angelic for lack of a better word uh higher level of being world that was wiped out and though it's not the earth was null and void it was the earth was made null and void that's where Genesis starts. So if there was a pre I'm wondering if the Stargates that music lover is mentioning is from that era where they had that ability they weren't like us. They were a little different us. They may be related to us in the in the God's kingdom but this these this pre pre-Genesis world had the use of Stargates to come in and out fallen angels when they when they fell out of favor with God and they asked God can you know they asked Enoch can you ask God to to not punish us and Enoch went to bat for him for whatever reason and God said no I'm sorry my punishment's coming they became relegated to this place and essentially I think they be they they began a process of being enslaved here because it says they're in chains beneath the earth for their defiance and their children they hoped would be just human enough to steal the inheritance of Adam to quote Timothy Alberino. What were the stargates and those those types of things that we're that people are seeing in archaeology that might have the the fallen angels would have given that tech to them. Now that being said if the elites are able to tap into the spirits of the Nephilim which are nothing more than demons okay that that would be their desire to bring technology back to the to the point that it was pre-flood and pre-genesis so that they could now have access to exit where they've been exiled to for their bad behavior. Does that make sense? Yep also just for the heck of it I don't have any agenda by saying this I think it's important to remind ourselves in the New Testament they angel is a is a blanket term in the New Testament that generally means a being from the other dimension of of God's realm uh looking after us andor you know working with us or uh helping us and in some cases posing as the poor so you need to be aware of who you're entertaining because you could be in the presence of angels so they can change into a human like form that is just like us. But at the end of the day to kind of kind of brush up against what JC was saying I think is interesting to consider we are unique in the entire scope of God's creation because we're higher than the animals but we're a little lower than the angels. We are like I I say this cautiously I'm not saying we're we're like Jesus I'm not saying that but I mean in in the like in like Jesus he was fully God and fully man we are like like the angels in some ways spiritually housed in an animal body which makes us unique so whatever this is here this is very restricted and it goes back to the fall it goes back to the fallen angels they're they're they're trapped here. If there was a way out they would have gotten out they would have figured out a way to get out by now so we have to be very aware of how what what what does the the what does the sources we're looking at say it doesn't so I I but at the same time I you look at the the the epic of Gilgamesh and when they found his tomb they caught they didn't call it a tomb they called it a resurrection chamber. Yep why did they call it a resurrection chamber in my humble opinion is because their bodies were preserved in such a way mummification and the Egyptians did it too and the Mayans do it too lots of cultures mummified even there's Chinese mummies why did they do that? Because they were waiting for the technology to come full circle so that they could be brought back humble opinion. So this is complicated but I I mean with the Baron Trump story and other things is it possible somebody's getting a window into the future maybe maybe um but is it is it actual physical time travel like JC was saying I think it's that'd be it's pretty tough. And and like you said I love JC thank you for saying it I love that whole uh becoming and being uh you know Jesus was seeing Elijah and Moses they they were in a state of being they were already in the other realm and and he was Jesus was essentially at the top of Mount Hermon which is a a thin spot in the veil he was accessing that dimension and seeing them. But does that mean that we can go hopping around no because like JC said I think it's brilliant I never thought about it like that. What would your current self say to your past self and what would your current self say to your future self? We are in this is a training ground. Whatever this is I mean I mean I we know what it is but I look like to look at it like we're Navy SEALs in training. God is looking for a a refined elite who are willing to die to self and reject their carnal nature to align themselves with the heart and mind of Christ because that's who he's going to want in the kingdom of heaven with him. He doesn't want to bring back rebels into his kingdom. I'm sorry I'm all over the place. But um I'm just thinking out loud there uh but but yeah oh back on the angel thing. So so uh there are cherubim there's seraphim there's these different angelic descriptions technically in the Old Testament angel if I if I understand correctly is a job description descriptor and it means messenger and it doesn't say in the Bible anywhere that they couldn't procreate it says that they weren't all weren't allowed to it was not in their job description well why would that be? Well let's take a look at it for a second let's just for the fun of it look at Star Wars did the Jedi Knights were they allowed to have wives and children? No do you know why? Because that is a way that you become compromised it's it's a weakness because your enemy can exploit you through the threatening of your wife or your children right so as a Jedi Knight okay so so just to transfer to us if we are uh you know if if if we're gonna go to the other side where where's what I go with oh the angels so the angels aren't allowed to really they're not allowed to have children that's why it was such a defilement of the of the role when the when the watchers went into the took human wives they left their post for that because they wanted that more than they wanted their assignment and God said I'm done with you you're not you're not worthy because I'm looking for people who are loyal to me you know because they love and trust me and they trust my plan. Yeah you guys are thinking you can do this better on your own.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:31

I'm all over the place just throwing some cuts up there that's right well JC before I throw it back to you outcast I feel the same way the way JC set that up um about the transfiguration there um instead of time travel I'm thinking what we're seeing what that was maybe we should call it inner interdimensional jumping uh because that's more of this reality that I'm understanding it now is that they're just jumping in into different dimensions that we are still are not privy to see. We will be later so to call it time travel I'm not sure who came up with that but um it's still it's it's get the the intriguing mind like myself and you guys are very interested in that stuff but now I'm thinking more interdimensional uh you know um jumping into these dimensions uh JC we're we're just having a good time with this what what what are your thoughts yeah yeah I I would say dimensional travel is what we're seeing there not necessarily not time travel in the in a sort of sense we usually think about you know with sci fi yeah and that sort of stuff where somebody's leaving one time into another time so um back to the future stuff like that yeah different sort of yeah it's a different sort of thing going on there's definitely it's definitely a traveling um but not a time travel I think it's dimensional travel for sure okay and um and yeah I I think uh you know and again a lot of this this is just one man's opinion right uh I'm no expert either but the uh I I think a lot of stuff we see some some somehow some way people tap into uh the the revelation stream for lack of a better term I know we we've talked about this before the um uh precognitive dreams you know I mean I have that happen to me and I I always I often think like how what what is what is your spirit or your mind sort of uh dipping a toe into to to enable you to to receive that yeah and so I think that that you know that's what's happening to a lot of folks not not that in particular but I think they're tapping into not necessarily travel you know oh I traveled here and so I know these things and I'm come back and I'm telling them I think somehow they're tapping into that uh that knowing um whatever whatever is happening there there's definitely that's always been fascinating to me by the way there's definitely some kind of um you know I I like uh outcast use the term veil it's it's almost like there's a thinness in in the veil whatever the whatever that is I would think of it like this if we're thinking in dimensional terms that if if the heavenly dimension is a dimension of of of fullness right you even see that in the scripture talking about the fullness of knowledge then somehow in in in some way that we can't comprehend there is that knowledge available right the knowing of of how things unfold and it's almost like somehow maybe there's a thinness in the dimensional veil at times uh you know something happens and you either penetrate that uh spiritually or it seeps into it penetrates you in a sense uh it seeps into you so I've always thought that about the precognitive dreams and that same phenomenon uh and I I think that's probably what's going on like like the Trump book the the Baron Trump which is crazy uh but things like that I think I think people tap into whatever that is and catch a glimpse of things yeah I do too it's um it's just very fascinating and talking about all this you know sci-fi stuff and everything should we take a look at your uh at your sub stack you have the Julian fog stuff I mean what do you think should we take a look at some of this um go for it before we do we have uh Sandra over here on YouTube says uh we live in a society where social media cell phones tv news is meant to keep us distracted hence our lower vibrational energy from truth peace love and god yeah so but that's on purpose that is another weapon formed against us okay down here uh us humans are very look we like all this silly stuff we don't really know exactly the way uh that these these smart intelligent ancient angels know everything we we're just we're we're silly look at us wearing all these flannels and stuff all right look let's look here let's let's go over here so this is Julian Fogg this is your substack right here um this is at uh JC or uh yeah JC Hall right or the cynical patriot uh the cynical patriot substack and you have all these articles and uh this is what you've been writing and this is awesome look at this Julian Fogg which is a character uh I started reading some of this stuff a while back when you first started sending it to us and remember I was championing Julian Fogg I was like I want more Julian Fogg stuff you guys I I want to know what he's doing next it's so good so uh give us a little bit of this what is this all about that we're looking at on the screen here uh I I wrote I started a uh serial I guess you'd call it uh I tried to I tried to get it about 12 12 little episodes sort of

SPEAKER_06 1:50:00

Uh short stories. Yeah. They kind of got longer as I went as I went along. So I'm on the last one. I have the last one written. I'm trying to wrap up the story. I've had the last one written for months, and I haven't been able to do the final edit and get it up there. I wrote a couple different ones in the meantime. I don't know if you I don't know if you can uh look at the top menu. If you look at the very top, uh you'll see you know, home, fortune and misadventure, scripture and meaning, public square, more stories. So I write different stuff. It's not always sapphire or fantasy or whatever.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:37

Yeah, which one should I click on? There's a lot up here.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:40

Yeah, click on more stories. I think that's where okay. No, not in there. All right, go back to I don't know, Public Square. If you click on Public Square, I think you'll see scroll down. So I I do write from time to time.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:58

This is cool.

SPEAKER_06 1:50:59

Uh something, you know, I don't know, somebody may consider them somewhat political, but if I write on anything that is in the realm of politics, it's more about ideas, right? It's about the big principles, uh, not not so much about politicians and and all that sort of stuff. Look at that. So I I do yes, yeah, that one struck me. That one hit me one day. I was uh, you know, some of my favorite movies, by the way. I love uh I I love uh all actually all the three of those movies, but it was just interesting to me. It struck me at how they all came out really right around the same time. And I thought, man, was somebody trying to get a message out to us? Was somebody trying to send us a warning? Um, because now I know something about movie making and how scripts are floated around. You know, people try to float their scripts around, and all of these producers steal the stories and they'll make they'll make the movie before the guy gets you know gets anything from it. And so somehow there was a message floating around around 1999, and all three of these movies came out, and they were all about a managed reality that what you think is real is not real. Somebody else is in control, somebody's showing you what they want you to know, what they want you to see, and uh all of these, all of these contain that message.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:19

They are great. This is awesome, you guys. You guys need to look at this. This is for movie fans who question their reality. Here's the uh the meme, and it's from Dark City, the 13th floor, and the matrix. It says, Are we living in a hidden simulation? Um, prophetic warnings from 1999. This is really cool. This looks awesome. And there's your article down underneath it, uh, talking about the you know, the in living inside, like you said, the fabricated reality curated by unseen powers. Outcast, look at this. I gotta turn this music.

SPEAKER_04 1:52:51

Sure feels like it. Yeah, sure feels like it. Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:54

Now the 13th floor, I have not seen everything the dark city and the matrix. I've seen those, but uh now you got me turned on to something here. Uh out uh uh JC. So we're gonna have to check that one out too. Dang, it's a good one. I I enjoyed it. Okay. Well, I want you guys to go check it out there. Uh it's uh the Cynical Patriot on Substack. I have his uh everything is right here in the description of the show, so you guys can go look at that. Um, it's just it's awesome. Uh Jack Pine Savage says I saw the 13th floor years ago. Oh, this is so good. Might have to watch that again. So uh this exciting stuff.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:30

Yeah, I I wrote I wrote one story. I don't, I don't, I gotta get it up there where people can find it, but I did one. Um so I'm sure you guys remember Philip K. Dick, right?

SPEAKER_04 1:53:45

Yes, do Andrew Yes, yeah. Do Andrew's dream.

SPEAKER_06 1:53:50

Yeah, right, right, which was Blade Runner. So that's that's the original book that they made Blade Runner out of. So Minority Report was one of his.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 1:54:00

Um lot lots lots of movies that they made that were a lot of his books. Now, of course, in our realm, he's he's well known for uh the presentation he gave in France. I forget the conference it was called, but you know, he forwarded the idea of we're living in a simulation and all this sort of CIA stuff was going on, and then apparently they took him out and raided his house and all kind of craziness. But anyway, he wrote he there's a bunch of short stories that he wrote. I I love his writing, and um, there was one called The Eyes Have It, and that inspired me to write a similar story, a story with a similar theme, and uh called The Time Makers. And so I have a short story on there called The Time Makers, and um you guys might enjoy that, and I'll try to get it where it can be found easily on the site. All right, well that was really cool. I like that time the time makers, the time makers plot. Look for that one. Oh, by the way, so the one you you you clicked on that uh that said public square. Yeah, I wrote one about about an AI takeover as well. So that one uh that one might be interesting for your audience to read. Uh let's see. Yeah, global stability, anake's tale.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:20

Let's see what oh, look at that. Out cast. Dang. All right, hang on a second. I gotta scroll through this. This is this looks really good. Hey, let's get that music back here because it's scary. Um, so what this is global stability, Anake. Are you that sounds almost like Anunnaki, but it's uh Anake.

SPEAKER_06 1:55:40

Okay, I chose you to Yeah, I chose I chose that name on purpose, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:44

Anake, never blinded, never slept, and never made mistakes. It's humanity's masterpiece, the global optimizer. It managed power grids, food distribution, transportation logics, uh logistics, uh, emergency response, and climate stabilization. After the first decades of wrestling with famine, war, and political paralysis, Anake became a welcome stabilizing force in a fractured world. Humans still occupied positions of leadership, but Anake was the unseen custodian of humanity, preventing fuel shortages, failing crops, unstable power demands long before they became crises. Uh wow, and then he goes into talking about the first glitch. And so this sounds like a really good story here. Contamination problem, the task force, the breach. You have a movie here, outcast. Look at this. JC's got a movie script right here. 20 years later, look at your time traveling already. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_04 1:56:39

I have a hunch. I'd love to see all these as a movie, every single one of them.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:42

Me too. Oh my gosh. All right, so you guys can find all this underneath the public square tab at the uh Substack uh Cynical Patriot. Dang, I like that. Look at that. He's out there catching fish, and there's a drone looking at him. Oh, outcast. Well, listen, uh, what what else do you have left for the people? Uh you know, any any last uh places that you want the people to see or go to or visit? Uh, I have the descriptions down here. Your links are here in the description of the show. Um Wow, look at that. It's already nine o'clock. How'd that happen, you guys? Holy smokes. All right.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:22

Time flies when we're having fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:24

Time travels when we're having fun. All right, we're in our demand, we're dimensionally jumping here. So okay, uh, let give give uh JC Hall uh you know some final thoughts before he's gotta head out.

SPEAKER_04 1:57:35

God, uh, you know, JC, God bless you, brother. I've already gushed on you quite a bit. I just want to say uh thank you for being you. You are um you're a person that is true to self and true to God. Um everybody who knows you is inspired by your strength and your uh man, your focus on on truth and your focus on uh what is important in life. You've blessed everybody that's listened tonight, knowing that it's okay to decouple from the the matrix and what it has to say to focus on self and family and God. Um, I mean, just this has been such an important message to everybody here. Um, we really love you and appreciate you, brother, and we thank you for being obedient and coming on when we asked you to come on. Uh, thank you. And we we look forward to having you on again soon, too.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:20

Glad to be here. Yeah, that's been good. I I can tell you, life is good, man. Life is good.

SPEAKER_02 1:58:25

That's awesome. You know, and we were monitoring heavy when you were going through the Hurricane Milton down there, and we were on with you that night, remember? And uh you guys were you know batting down the hatches because it was coming. It the wind was coming in, that it was nighttime, and you guys ended up getting some of that rain. And oh, you redid the floor. Remember, he's got uh he showed us all the pictures of the backyard that he's redone. Um so you've you've done a lot of stuff, brother. Um, so it was great to talk with you live again. And uh make sure you tell Christian we said hi and uh listen, July's coming up 250 years of this country. If she would carve out a little time, I'd like to talk to her about that too.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:03

Dude, I totally forgot. So June 12th, man, we're out of here. We're we're leaving for Oxford for nine weeks. I forgot.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:12

You're going over there? You're gonna what are you doing? Rub it in their face a little bit or what?

SPEAKER_06 1:59:17

Yeah, so my Chris Ann, attorney Chris Ann Hall, my wife, uh got accepted into the Oxford Law Summer Program. So she's gonna be studying in Oxford. I don't know if she's gonna have that the guy with the big boob attachment as a professor, but I don't know if you've seen it. I did, I seen it, guys. That was insane. She's gonna be studying at Oxford. Uh we'll be there nine weeks starting uh June 12th. Gonna be gonna be amazing, man. Really excited. Nine weeks. I spent a lot of time. Nine weeks. I spent a lot of time in Scotland, so and she hasn't been there, so I'm looking forward. We're gonna do a day trip to Scotland. Definitely look forward to that.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:56

Have you been to Scotland yourself, JC?

SPEAKER_06 2:00:00

I have, yeah. I spent time when I was in the Navy. Uh we spent, you know, we used to um I I rode subs in the Navy, and a lot we pull into the bases in Scotland.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:11

So awesome. Well, we have a uh we have an an episode on here uh with Gary Wayne, and Outcast wanted to know about all this stuff in Scotland. Outcast has been to Scotland, you know. That's my grandpa's from Scotland, and and and Jay uh Outcast, he was uh we're Scotland's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:29

I get married beautiful man.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:30

Yeah, so we want to beautiful. I've never been, but I want to go sometime. But um man, we need to talk after this and get some Scotland uh knowledge uh on on the down low, is what I'm saying. So um that's that's awesome. Uh uh music lover says, Oh wow, congrats to Chrisan. Uh yeah, that's great. I would love to uh get a talk to her before you guys head on out, but you guys are leaving soon. If that's uh June for nine weeks, you're gonna be over there for the 250th anniversary of the celebration over here.

SPEAKER_06 2:00:59

Yeah, yeah. Um we have some stuff going on with with people and different events. Uh I so I don't know. She uh she told you know, she told somebody she she could fly back for certain event, but we'll see. Yeah. I I don't I I doubt I doubt we're gonna be back. I think we'll probably celebrate it over there. I think it'd be really interesting to to to be there at that time. I mean, we're you know, we'll be sort of where it all started.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:26

Uh, you know, the connections to all that. So I I think it'll be interesting.

SPEAKER_02 2:01:30

I like it. Yeah, I I really enjoy it. That's awesome. Well, listen, uh again, JC, thanks for coming back again. You guys check them out at the Cynical Patriot over on Substack. Uh, get in there, read that. Man, I'm now I want to go check all that stuff out. So that was awesome, JC. Thanks for coming back, brother. And uh again, tell Chris Sam we said hi and um you know, enjoy Scotland. Man, I want to go now. All right. Well, listen, we'll light some fireworks for you, okay? How's that? All right, man. Appreciate you guys. Okay, good night, JC. Stay dangerous, brother.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:02

God bless, brother.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:03

We'll see you. Awesome outcast. Look at that. Another showing that was uh December of 2024, last time JC was on with us. Um, but I understand it now. You know, I understand now, and there's a good reason. I I enjoy that. That's that was so good. So um, all right. Any thoughts you have? Uh you're seeing the chat, the people are rolling the chat. Uh, there's a lot of stuff going on here. So uh music lover says having a good night, and good night, JC, and all these things. So um it's 9 05 outcast. We have the chance to end right now, or we can wrap up a couple little things if we wanted to. It's up to you.

SPEAKER_04 2:02:42

It's up to you. It's your show, buddy.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:45

Uh, it's your show too. What are you talking about? Um, all right. So here's what we did. Uh, for this um book, so we were just talking about the time traveler book. What I'm gonna do, you guys, and you you'll see it probably, I don't know, tomorrow or maybe later tonight. But I am putting this book right here. Hang on. Yes, this book right there. Dang it. JC, what are you doing here? Uh, right here, outcast. So, this book right here, uh, The Time Travelers of the Bible by Gary Steerman. I'm putting it down here as a show link as another affiliate item. So we have two affiliate items uh right there. You can see the time travelers of the Bible, how ancient prophets shattered the time barrier. So, if you guys want to click that, uh the link will be there. Use our link for it. That way we get the uh you know the the affiliate sales from that. So uh that's gonna be in there every time uh you know next time tonight. I'll add it in there, but um, that's awesome. Uh what else we have? Oh, the hanavirus. I want to talk about that hanavirus scam. Okay, all right. So let me bring this music down. Um, all right. What what's your thoughts? What are you thinking?

SPEAKER_04 2:04:00

Oh man, it's just it's it's monkey pox, it's dango fever, it's it's just a repeat, and it's so dumb. And anybody I saw somebody driving down the expressway the other day by themselves with an N95 mask on. I'm just like, seriously, you're you just can't wait to do you know, COVID 2, the electric boogaloo, you're all excited. Get out of here. I I think most people are not in the mood and they're they're not gonna get any traction with this, but boy, it they're gonna give it a go. They're gonna try definitely.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:26

Oh, yeah, they're gonna have a good time with it, and we're gonna laugh at them, right? So, um, so I typed it in. I said, What is the hanta? What what does that mean? Okay, hanta, h A-n-t. Um H-A-N-T-A. Um, it's it there's uh in Israel, wait, in Israeli Hebrew slang, hanta uh used to mean these things right here: nonsense, BS, a scam or a fraud, fake bogus, oh my god, empty talk. It's basically a dismissive slang. Someone might say now here's what somebody might say, and I'll probably end up saying this tomorrow and the next day. Um, that story is hanta. That story is bogus. Uh, don't sell me honta. I think I've heard that before. Don't sell me that hunta. Uh, don't feed me any nonsense. That's what that means, outcast. Don't feed me any hunta.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:15

So nonsense virus.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:18

Exactly. The bogus virus. Oh, they're messing with us.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:22

They gotta be messing with us, they gotta be messing with us.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:25

The pronunciation of uh often uses guttural Hebrew in uh the N sound closer to Hunta. So or hunta. That's how you gotta say it. Don't send me that hunta.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:37

What Evan says, I've been seeing so many people with m wearing masks already. I think people just love the fear at this point. You know, it fear can be an idol in people's minds. If you don't have God, you'll find something to fixate on, and fear can be one of them. That makes sense to me. It really does. There's like oh, we got the new thing. I I can't wait. Because a lot of people, especially the godless people out there, they don't like life. You you it's hard to have joy in life without God. So you're gonna just go, oh, I need a break, I need a I need another three-month vacation. I'll take I'll take some Hontavirus on some of these people, you know what I mean? Yes, like I'll sign up for the fear event. Jeez.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:15

Oh, that's really good. Um, you know, uh what I need to do, but I do know a lot of people feel like I was talking to somebody Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead. I got no, I'm working on something. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:25

No, I just I was I I was talking to somebody recently and they were saying, listen, they go, they weren't particularly awake, but they're like, we cannot do another COVID. Well, but we won't, we will not participate. We almost didn't make it. Our family almost lost everything in that. Um, I think there's a lot of people out there that are just not interested in what they're selling. Same. Uh, but 2030 approaches, 2030 approaches, and they're gonna keep flinging all these psyops on us. Listen, find one that sticks.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:50

What we need to do when we start seeing people out there wearing masks again. Uh, that I'm gonna show you a meme. All right, this meme right here, and this is what the meme I want you to see. Do you see that outcast? Is it there yet? How to treat someone who fought that falls forward again. So you point at them and you laugh with your buddies, okay? For the now for the next engineer crisis just around the corner. You point at them and you laugh at them, and you put your hands around and you hug and you say, We're not doing it again. Uh, that is crazy. Do you remember outcast in 2021 when I made that meme that went completely viral of my face? All right. I I remember that, and I was going through some stuff uh earlier today, and I found it, and I'm gonna bring it up, you guys. So this thing went so viral, it's insane. I don't I don't know if any of you guys will remember it. That that's over here. Look at this. So here if you allow the government to break the law for an emergency, they will create emergencies to break the law.

SPEAKER_04 2:07:48

Amen. That is so true.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:50

So that was in 2021 in the summer, and I'm standing in my landscape trailer right there when I took that picture. And what happened was somebody see my face right next to it. Somebody cut that out of it and just took my whiteboard and my markers. I remember, and they took it and put it all over the place, and that thing went viral for months and months and months, got millions of views. I think JC had his fingers on that, and I think he might have one might have been one of the ones that put it into motion. Oh, it's crazy. So that yeah, but at the time I didn't really know much about putting my logos and all the stuff on everything, so it was not there. So they were able to cut it out, and we didn't get any uh uh you know, any what do you call it, any play from this, but it's okay because the message got around. But uh, if you guys see that out there somewhere, you know where it came from. That I did that. And I've probably got 50 or 60 other ones that I've done and that are I don't know, they're floating around out there too.

SPEAKER_04 2:08:47

So JC's saying that the Hontavirus was a bioweapon developed in the Korean War. Uh, so it has it has some real legs to it, whatever it is, but at the same time, you know, is it gonna spread like they want it to? I don't know. Uh also, Evan, I like that he says, uh, I s uh let's see what he said. Where is it? Oh, uh, it's all white-collar people that don't want to go that want to work from home that want to buy into it. I think he's probably right about it.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:12

Oh, right there. Yeah, it's all the white people got that's dying to work remotely again.

unknown 2:09:16

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:16

Actually, yeah, because you get a lot of the work done around the house and you can go do whatever you want, and as long as the mouse is moving the button around there. Um, all right, so let's go to um I'm looking to see if I had one more. Oh, I had this, and this will be the last one. So we got the the the the goofy one. We have the prep the emergency meme. Yep. All right, so okay, you I want you to explain real quickly the the Greater Israel project because I was just thinking of something here um that I mentioned to you earlier today. So just give me a real quick snapshot of what the uh Greater Israel project is.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:56

Well, uh the the the main clue for the Greater Israel Project is a patch that the IDF has been wearing, and it shows a map that is not the sliver of what is Israel that we know is Israel now. It is a an expanded uh map with the Star David on it, and it seems to encompass a large part of Lebanon, parts of Iran, uh, you know, part larger swathes of the Middle East. I have my own fun theory on why they want that all that land. Uh I think it's linked to King Salman's treasure that's buried throughout the Middle East. Um, but that's just one theory. Uh but yeah, the greater Israel plan is that they don't want to be locked into this little sliver the size of New Jersey anymore. They want to expand out and they want to take over what they can, hence why they've destroyed and completely obliterated Gaza and they have plans for Gaza. Um, they've also you know used us as their muscle to go after uh Libya and uh uh who else? Syria, Libya, and Saddam Hussein in Iraq. Um and now we're looking at Iran and Turkey as being mentioned, and now Lebanon. So you can see that there's this um a Zionist agenda. You know, I don't want to like lump all Jewish people in together on this, but the people who are Zionists, which is essentially the Jewish version of white supremacist, I guess, is what you could liken it to, which means at all costs, you know, there's nothing that will stop us. We'll obliterate anything in our path to get what we want, is what Zionism is. And um, I would say blood bloodline supremacists. Yes, or so they believe, which is interesting because as you and I have said, they're not they are not the descendants of Shem that they claim to be. They are the descendants of Jay Feth, Jay Feth's grandson's name was Ashkenaz, these are Ashkenazi Jews that inhabit the majority of Israel that we're talking 95 percent. Right. So even if we're gonna if uh even if you were the type of Christian to say that Christ's message didn't matter for some reason, and we're gonna go back to the old covenant of bloodlines, they're not even the bloodline uh people of Israel. So it's the whole thing is just comical. Um we're being fed lies at every angle, including this one. And evangelical Christians who buy into this, I'm sorry, you're you're you're so wrong in this. And and and Christ, if he comes back to my Tomorrow. Do you think he's going to pat you on the backs for supporting anything genocidal? Not to say that both sides aren't genocidal in their own right. There are two blood bloodthirsty religions that are hellbent on uh conquest and destruction. And I'm supposed to pick a side. Not doing it. I pick, I'm on Jesus' side. That's it. You guys can figure it out over there. I'll pray for you, but I don't don't suck me into this conflict. But even whether whether whatever I think of Islam, um, I don't condone children being massacred over, especially when they're trying to pursue food. Yeah. Uh that'd been that has been laid out for them like a trap. I mean, there's so many ways to look at this, it's disgusting. But anyway, I'm sorry, I'm off the tangent. So back to your theory. What's your theory on on uh the Greater Israel project?

SPEAKER_02 2:12:40

Well, besides that, uh we we've known, and I played this clip on here, I think it's uh Lieutenant Colonel. Oh man, I forgot his name. I can probably find it, but uh talking about how we are going to go in the next five years and we're gonna destroy these five uh seven countries in the next five years. Remember that you know he's talking to President Bush, I think it was 2003, and I played this on the video or on the on the podcast a bunch, and Iran was one of them, with along with Syria, Libya, uh, I believe Iraq, and there was there was another one. Uh I don't remember them. But um, my thought is this because you know, none of those countries had a central bank. Who owns the central banks? The people that what you're just talking about, okay. Iran does not have a central bank right now. Um, so my thought was that what I asked you, I said, Hey, could Iran be uh just a distraction for us for Israel to go over and wage war on Lebanon and the media being complicitly quiet about it, not letting us know. We're only getting information from very small outlets, you know, people that are there, people have family. I know a guy, his family he came from there and his family he still has family there. But there has been just villages wiped out in the last few weeks, gone, and it's the the patch that's on their uh military logo is starting to fill up to look like that final product of the Greater Israel project. What are we looking at here? Just keep your eyes on it because the media is not gonna tell you. The media is not gonna tell you, they're gonna put distraction here, UAP's here, declassified this, Epstein. That I mean, I ran this, uh gas prices. I mean, I just paid over 250 bucks in fuel today, outcast for for my diesel and for all my gas. That's every Monday now. How you like them apples? Oh, ouch. That's yeah, brother.

SPEAKER_04 2:14:37

Yes, I know. Um, yeah, and I said this on the show probably a couple times before. I'm gonna keep saying it for a while because I just I I think it has relevance somehow. Um, you know, my my whole adult life I've heard that Lebanon is the the perfect example of um interfaith harmony that Jews, Muslims, and Christians have lived side by side for millennia in that area, and they get along rather well. And it's it's there's a nice balance of power there in that regard. Yep. And now we're watching it being leveled and churches are being targeted. And uh man, if you can't see the sinister nature of what Israel is doing here, I mean I I I haven't heard any justification for why they're doing this. Did was Lebanon encroaching on their territory? Did Lebanon do something to them? No, they just want it, they're just gonna take it. Yep. And and you know, and it it's you know what it reminds me of a little bit? It reminds me of uh why how how Russia got antagonized into a war with Ukraine. They started moving those boundaries and saying, we're gonna go here and we're gonna go here. Russia said uh enough is enough.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:42

Yeah, well, they kept yeah, kept overturning or going against the mix mixed two agreement. So uh finally, like you said, they're like enough of that crab. We made we made deals with you guys, and you guys keep stepping over the borders. Stop it, stop it now.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:56

It's it's like a version of crisis reaction solution. You you back a dog into a cage and you keep poking at it and making it go further into the cage, but there's no place else to go. And then when the dog snips at the stick, it goes, then they go, see, I told you it was impressive. He's a vicious, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:16:11

He's vicious. Yep, exactly. It's crazy. So, um, all right, brother. Listen, we I think we did some pretty good work tonight, especially with JC here on the show, and uh so good to have him back in the mix a little bit here. Um we should probably get some final thoughts from you and uh get this thing rolling out. I do want to make mention of this whole thing that came out, just everybody's been talking about in the media going nuts about the declassified uh UAP alien disclosure and all this stuff. They're gonna tell you that there's some alien stuff and all that stuff. I want you to know. I think most people here already know this stuff, um, that that meeting it was put together, it was it was probably something really good. We know quite a few of the different players that were in there, Outcast, um, that were at that meeting. Uh has nothing to do with us, just knowledge that we know. Um, that again, that's if you watch the uh confessionals or listen to that, you'll you'll know what I'm talking about, okay? But um be careful if the media starts telling you about these uh aliens coming in from outer space and all this stuff, okay? Look to the Bible. You said it before earlier in the show talking about these demons. Alright. Look for the deception when the media comes to tell you. Uh, because this group of uh pastors that got together and had this meeting, they're trying to make you guys aware. They're trying to make churches aware uh so that when the when the time comes, the flock does not get confused and get deceived. Tony is trying to save the flocks. Do you agree with that?

SPEAKER_04 2:17:59

Yeah, I mean, um, you know what what what's what's a red flag to me a little bit though is since when does the US government, the Pentagon, on any capacity get together with pastors? That in itself is kind of strange and red red flaggy to me, whatever that means. I don't know, you do you know come up with your own conclusion, but I just find that highly suspect. Also, this stuff that came out, none of it has turned out to be anything new that we haven't seen before. And um, I was you know listening to Tony Merkel on uh the confessionals, and he he said his personal opinion was that like 90, 90 to 95 percent of these tic-tac and tic-tac items that we're seeing, that's military tech. That is not other dimensional or andor they're not UFOs, right? Yeah, uh, from another planet.

SPEAKER_02 2:18:44

And just to look into that, you guys can go look up the TR3B. That's that triangle craft, that's military stuff. Uh, they've been you know running that thing around for quite a few years, and people see it and it you know freaks them out because they see a triangle flying around up there, it's all black, has three lights on the corners, and um just look it up the TR3B. Uh it's crazy. Uh, but you know, think about the the the black word uh what is it? The um the blackbird. Yeah, think about the blackbird that came out. Uh it was, I think that was built and completed in 1967. We didn't know anything about it until just uh until the B-52s were decommissioned. So, I mean, that thing's been around for a long time. It's all sleek. The uh, you know, what what's the other craft that that that we have? Those all black ones with the angled sides and all that stuff to avoid radar. All that stuff's old. Once we know about it, it's already old. Okay, it's the things that we don't know about right now that's happening um that we we won't know anything about for for for quite a while. Uh, you know, and if they're recreating Fallen Angel Tech that they know of, Enochian technology is what I'm saying. It's crazy. Yeah, we have a we have a good time coming.

SPEAKER_04 2:19:55

Yeah. Musical Lover says the conversation with the pastors occurred several months ago. Yeah, and it was trying to bring them up to speed with the deception so that they're not uh flustered when people are asking uh if aliens are demons. Right. They want to know how to handle that question. Oh sorry. The American church is so sleepy to how supernatural the Bible is. Most uh seminary training training is uh theoretical and they have to learn everything else as they go. I think that's absolutely true. So, music, are you saying that um this was a uh a white hat operation to make sure that the they that these pastors had the correct answers that aliens are demons? Is that what this meeting was was informing them? That's what you're trying to say.

SPEAKER_02 2:20:39

That's what I'm saying, outcast. Yes, that it is. And it wasn't the white hats, it's Tony Merkel doing it. He's telling them that. He's the one that arranged all this. That that second meeting that was in the summer at the when he rented that home, that was him. Okay, yeah, he put this together. Now, the government doesn't want us knowing that, even right there, Jay-Z all he just texts us and said this gives them cover, they can blame it on the aliens, right? Because they don't want you to know that where this is actually coming from. Because if you do, think about it. If if if we all know as a society, as a public, know where these things are coming from, and it's not aliens, they're just trying to confuse us on that. The grays and all that stuff, these are all part of that whole fallen angel, uh uh you know, Nephilim demon stuff. Okay, but if they can get you because they can lead you down the path, meaning that these people are from space, they're here to save us. God's not gonna save you, Jesus is not saving you. He's just a man that was, you know, in the in the in the past. Okay, that's how they want this to go. So who who what side do you think they're on? These these government types and these official types. They're not on the the side of light, they're not on the side of us, they're on the side of deception.

SPEAKER_04 2:21:53

Yeah, and and also too, they're gonna need a cover if they're uh actually that'll lead into my final comments too. Uh there they have to if there's a pre-tribulation rapture, if we're raptured up, what are they how the who's left? How are they gonna handle this for with who's left? They're gonna tell them the aliens took them, not that we were that the yeah, yeah, that the Christians left. Right. Uh um, also, too. Yeah, I saw this. Uh, you know, uh Evan said that he's had an experience with the black triangle. You know who else did? Former guest uh neighbor Bob.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:22

Okay, I want to we need to have conversations with these two guys if we can uh for later time. So let's try to hook that up because I want to hear about these uh the TR3Bs. Uh these these things are crazy.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:35

Neighbor Bob was chased home by one he felt on he was in a truck up in Lexington, Michigan, which there is a an a military base up there, I'm pretty sure. Yeah. And it chased him all the way home and hovered over his house and he he heard a thud on his roof, and he literally he literally almost crapped himself and ran out the door in his car and took off. I think he said he left his dog at home.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:56

You know who else saw the aliens? Yeah, you know who else saw something similar to that? It was uh um it was um oh what the uh John B. Wells from Caravan to Midnight. I heard him talking about this, and he saw one. He was in Texas, and he he saw one out of the corner of his eye and he ran to the back of the house, the patio, looked out, and he saw the corner of it taken off. Same thing. So I'm telling you, these these TR3Bs, uh, they've they've been here, they've been here for a long time. Um, I should probably just pull one up real quick. Uh TR3B. And uh the Black Manta is what it is. And here it is right here. Look at that. Come on, come on, there we go. Oh, wrong one. Hang on. That's it right there. The black, the TR3B. The TR3B Black Manta uh is a reputed uh reputed top uh secret triangular shape surveillance aircraft allegedly developed by U.S. military, often dubbed the Black Project. Sightings uh since the 1990s describe a large silent craft uh featuring bright lights at its corners and a central pulsate pulsating light covering uh capable of hovering and in rapid high-speed movement. Yeah, from from what I've noticed is these things um they are quiet, they're giant, and they can actually sit in place and you don't hear them. And they're probably using that. Remember, we last week we talked about the uh the uh the um was it the anti-graviticals machines. Remember all that stuff? Yeah, you know, and and again, that's coming from the uh the the the Fallen Angel Tech that they probably reverse engineered. I mean look at this black manta. And you tell me now you know what's funny is I've seen these things on some of those what are those shows, those ancient aliens and all this stuff, and they see these and they make a big deal out of them because they don't realize they're just a military uh craft. So they they go on and they see these things and uh they they put them on the TV and say, uh, look at this, you know, UAP that we found and all this stuff. And I'm yelling at the TV like that's a 3B, you guys. So I don't know.

SPEAKER_07 2:25:10

Yep, yep.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:12

Uh all right, we probably yapped enough. Been yapping all night. Okay, that's what I'm saying. So uh you got any final? Let's get some final stuff from you.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:20

I'm gonna I'm gonna rapid fire hit some scriptures here that uh that would um indicate a pre-tribulation rapture. And what we could be looking at here is that if the if the church is raptured up, how is the government going to explain to those left behind what happened? They're gonna blame aliens, and that will help them to secure the souls and the minds and the hearts of who is left behind so that they don't withstand till the end, so that they can enter the kingdom of heaven. So here's uh here's one for you to consider First Thessalonians four, sixteen and seventeen. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a loud command, with the voice of of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, who we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will be with the Lord forever. Uh Revelation 4 1. Uh after this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven, and the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, Come up here, I will show you what must take place after this. Uh Revelation, let me see, I'm gonna skip that one. Uh 1 Corinthians 15, 51 through and uh and 52. Listen, I tell you a mystery. We will not all sleep, but we will be changed in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet, for the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed. Uh 1 Thessalonians 5 9, for God did not appoint us to suffer wrath, but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ. So the wrath would be the judgment. Revelation 3 10. Since you have kept my command to endure patiently, I will also keep you from the hour of trial that is going to come on the whole world to test the inhabitants of the earth. That can be interpreted a couple ways. Luke 21, 36. Be always on the watch and pray that you may be able to escape all that is about to happen, and that you may be able to stand before the Son of Man. Um I can keep going here. Matthew 24, 40 uh 40 and 41. Two men will be in a f in the field, one will be taken and the other left. Two women will be grinding with a handmill, one will be taken and the taken and the other left. Um I could probably go on, but you get the gist. There are uh plenty of scriptures to indicate that there could be a pre-tribulation rapture, and that's what the Great Deception, as Elliot Marzuli likes to call it, will be about. It will be about trying to convince uh those who are left behind uh what the narrative is so that they can secure that they do not make it into heaven by enduring all the trials. For those of us who are uh born again in the blood of Christ, um uh you know it's hard to imagine a God that would bless us through our whole lives, communicate to us, speak to us in those amazing ways that He does and guide us through each every every day, gaining our trust and our love and then what he's gonna give us or make us suffer. I'm not trying to say that suffering is a part of being a Christian, because it definitely is, but I there's definitely scripture to indicate that there is a pre-tribulation rapture. I'm not saying I know, I don't know. I'm willing to listen to both sides, just uh quoting some scripture that caught my attention recently.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:30

Awesome, brother. Well, I like that breakdown. That was really good and very poignant to what we're talking about tonight. It's crazy. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:37

I I I planned I kind of planned on doing that, but I didn't know it was gonna tie in like that. That's that's that's got God's providence.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:43

And and you just you mentioned the name LA Marzuli. Uh, guess he's our guest next week, LA Marzuli.

SPEAKER_04 2:28:50

No way, yeah. Really? That's funny. I quoted him.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:52

That's yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy how this stuff works out. So, yeah, we're gonna be getting some more of this uh alien uh demon talk uh with him next week, and there's a lot of new stuff that he's come across. I was talking to him, I don't know, last week, two weeks ago, something like that. And um, he's all about uh getting, you know, he he's always dig digging deep into these kind of things. So uh yeah, we're gonna be talking the LA Marzulli next week, you guys is gonna be a good time. We have Scott Mitchell coming up in a few weeks. We have uh who else did I I tell you? Uh she's coming back on with us. Uh oh. Yeah, it's a she, and I forgot who it was.

SPEAKER_04 2:29:31

But you said you said you got Scott Mitchell on the books again, too.

SPEAKER_02 2:29:34

Yeah, LA Marzulli, Scott. There's some other people. Uh I've been working the emails lately, so uh getting a lot of feedback uh from people. So there's more coming, there's more in the works. Uh, I did send an email the other day to Wes Germer from uh Saskatch Chronicles. Come on, Wes. Yes, get me get you get hold of him? Not yet. I I come on, Wes. If you're listening, I want you to get on the show. We're gonna have a good time with that. So yes. Music left says, oh my god, oh my stars, I'm gonna fangirl so hard. Oh, that's funny. Yeah. Oh Saskwatch Chronicles. I want him on here so bad to talk to him. Uh he's got a lot of good stuff. So, all right, brother. Listen, um, we've had we had a great time tonight, all right, is what I'm saying. So uh I just want to thank our supporters tonight. We have Wyatt, he's a brand new supporter over on Subscribestar. Wyatt, uh, what was Thornton. Wyatt Thornton, thank you so much, brother. Yes, uh, for for being there and doing that. Um, if you guys want to consider being uh a sponsor of the show, you guys can do that too if the situation fits. If not, you can tell your ma and dad and everybody else around us that we're over here having a great time with people like JC and LA and uh Scott Mitchell and all you know, all these people. We're having a great time over here with with everybody. So uh I want to say thank you to JC Hall tonight for coming in, had an excellent time with you. Go check him out. All the links for his uh uh the syndical patriot and his landscaping business down in Florida. The links are right down there, as well as our affiliate affiliate links. Yes, we are adding this time traveler to the Bible book. Wait till it's there, and you can use that link for us. And uh, you guys will uh the the straw, the life straw too for emergency water. Awesome. So please leave us a five-star rating and review, you guys, wherever you listen, like iTunes, Spotify, Castbox, wherever you're gonna be listening on the audio later. So um just want to say a big thank you to you, Outcast, for bringing the heat. Had a good time. Um uh Miss Melody, music lover Jack Pine, Trusty Turnip over on Pill.net. Thank you guys so much as our live chat, uh, our live chat moderators. I'm gonna release a scratcher right now over on pill.nex uh or pill dot net. And listen, you guys, do not be threatened by the mainstream media fear campaigns. Rescue those in darkness around you. Do not comply with unjust laws, mandates, or regulations, and trust your gut always, because that is God talking to you, is what I'm saying. Remember, we are live here every Monday night, 7 p.m. till around 9-ish. So stay, stay dangerous and God bless, brothers and sisters. Remember, Christ is king.