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On July 4, 2026, America will celebrate 250 years of independence. 

Join Jesse Jaymz and Outcast for our annual 4th of July celebration featuring Good Patriot, Kate Dalley, KrisAnne Hall, and JC Hall. We explore forgotten chapters of American history, the principles that shaped the nation, and the stories behind the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and the founding of the United States. 

Listen to some of the smartest Patriots of the Liberty movement today and the truth regarding our Founders that "they" don't want you to know. Learn how the Founders laid the groundwork for a slave free society and the shocking truth behind the slavery world culture. Your Liberty was secured by strong men and women of yesterday, that torch of Liberty must be kept alive. Original air date July 3, 2022.

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SPEAKER_03

Alright, you guys, welcome to the Independence Day Extravaganza. This was originally episode 46 of the show, and we talked about all the history behind July 2nd, July 4th, and the real independence and what happened. That was uh two years ago, you guys, July 3rd of 2022. That was show 46, you guys. I was not comfortable doing this stuff yet. I was still working on it. My very first hint of being comfortable was episode 50. And I'm just gonna, you know, I just want the people out there to to know what Independence Day, uh, the hidden history that our schools never talked about. We go into all that stuff. So uh, and you come on on and you kind of saved the day with me mumbling and everything. Because I had remember, I was we weren't live on on air with uh video and all that stuff. It was just me in front of a microphone, the little board that I have here, and a computer. And I was trying to communicate. You were on the cell phone, you did not have that good microphone there yet. So I was calling you, keeping you on the line, and then bringing in the other guests. It was very difficult for me to do that. And I was panicked and freaked out. You had a ton of quotes, and I think you saved you saved me anyway, of a bunch of dead air. Because you started reading those quotes when I was panicking on the phone trying to get this this whole extravaganza going on. So, do you remember anything from from that show that we that we did?

SPEAKER_02

You know, I vaguely, and you're refreshing me a little bit, so it's all kind of coming back to me. And I think you'd mentioned that uh we didn't pray in that episode, and we had all kinds of technical glitches and difficulties. Um I'm I'm really excited to hear this as an edited streamlined version of what it once was because it was like you said, it's probably pretty unbearable for the listener. I remember uh, you know, Kate Dally, she's always she's I love her energy, I love her knowledge, and she was up on some mountaintop and it was all glitchy. And yeah, I mean, there was all kinds of uh I had to cut a lot of that out.

SPEAKER_03

Um just and it was what's funny is we had her back just five weeks later.

SPEAKER_02

All-star lineup, that's great.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, the the biggest thing that that that I wanted to put this show out there for is because it really exposes the our um education system uh because they do not want us modern-day people to understand how it all really went down back then. All right, we get this watered-down 1619 looking project um full of lies and deceit, and uh just to keep a slavery uh narrative alive. And it's the the furthest thing from the truth, you guys. And and by listening to this episode, uh you're gonna hear the explanation of all that stuff. Oh, it's so good. I'm I'm just so happy that I was able to um cut it down and make it more uh listenable, more uh trimmed, slim line, I guess.

SPEAKER_02

Interesting that you mentioned keeping slavery alive, because uh the slavery concept alive, because uh that's what it comes down to. In the ult ultimate goal of them to create a s create a a serfdom or a uh you know, uh a hunger game scenario, they're they're gonna need to make us as dumb as possible so we don't know our history and we don't know our past. And they're gonna rewrite history, they're gonna omit history. So we shouldn't be surprised that the educational system has been actively denying uh such great information to be taught to us as we're growing up. And these kids nowadays are coming out with they don't even know ABCs and one, two, three, they're just being told that there's you know 12 genders or 10 genders or whatever being told. You know what I mean? It's just it's crazy what they've done to the education system. And you know, uh to quote, you know, like uh our our Sean Brooks, our buddy, you know, it's like, hey man, get your kids out of these schools. If you have any hope of your kid being a cop critical thinker, get them out now and and homeschool them. You're gonna do a much better job than the schools ever could at this point.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, that was perfect outcast. Well, listen, you guys, it's not 4th of July. Every country has a 4th of July. This is Independence Day, all right? This is the day that we declared by decree and said we are free and independent. Here we go. It is Sunday, Sunday, Sunday. It is July 3rd, 2022, you guys. Yes, yes, yes, yes, it's the Independence Day extravaganza show on the Dangerous Timpo podcast today. It doesn't get any more American than this. Bring it up, bring it up. Welcome to the Independence Day Extravaganza here on Dangerous Info Podcast. I am your host, Jesse James, and this is your source for building your own parallel economy in the midst of this technocratic globalist takeover. Yeah, this information is dangerous to the plans of global enslavement. Liberty, freedom, and truth is what the dangerous info patriots like us all want. It's that simple, everybody. We're not here to bring you the nonsense, we're here to bring you the truth and solutions to keep you ahead of their hunger games. Oh yeah. How cats, how you doing there, brother?

SPEAKER_10

I am here, I am blessed, I am good. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, welcome to the uh Independence Day Extravaganza show. And we're gonna have a great show tonight. Oh, you hear that? That pure Americano right there?

SPEAKER_10

It is uh it's hard to not be in the in the spirit for this stuff today with that kind of intro, man. That's powerful.

SPEAKER_03

This is just some fireworks going on. Listen to this. Independence day, not just July 4th. I'm talking independence day. The big difference. Everybody's got a July 4th. What we have is an Independence Day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, you guys. So welcome to the Dangerous Info Podcast. Uh, hope that gets the blood going right there, you guys. Today is the third when we record. So yesterday was the real, and we'll get into this later. Yesterday was the real Independence Day. July 4th was moved later. Uh, what 1868 by the federal government? And uh we're gonna let you know some reasons why. And you know why? Because today on this Independence Day extravagantia show, we have a ton. Well, maybe not a ton, but it it's a good amount of uh guests today. Check this out. This is our theme music for tonight. So coming up first, and uh about a half hour from now, we have uh good patriot, Katie B. Katie, she's coming on, she's got a little something for us here on this special day, a celebration of our country's Independence Day. All right, that's what this is all about. And then uh after that, we have uh a brand new guest, Kate Daly, who you guys have probably heard of. We've talked about her before. But uh first time on the show is gonna be Kate Daly today, so she's gonna be coming on after that. And then after her, we have Chris Ann Hall for the third time. Outcast. I mean, she's got everything on the Constitution and the founding, and uh, and then following her, uh, JC Hall, he's gonna be back too for his second time on the show. And basically, what the show is all about, you guys, is going back in time to a history that's been forgotten by our education system, by our politicians, by Hollywood, by everybody, by the media, all right. They don't think about this, outcast. You know what really gets me going is uh the wife had some uh you know music on the other or TV on the other day, uh, you know, in the morning when they run the uh, you know, they do all those morning. I can't stand that stuff, but the news, right? And and you get to the weather forecast and whatever it is, guess what they're always saying about this weekend and what they're uh the you know what they always talk about have a great 4th of July weekend, have fun, you know, barbecue on 4th of July. I never hear them say Independence Day.

SPEAKER_11

Do you? No, it's a good point. I didn't even pick up on that, but sure it's it's interesting. You know, I think sorry, you on a spiritual note, I just gotta say this. I I I challenge our listeners to think about this. I don't care what show I'm watching or how much I'm enjoying it, or what movie I'm watching, or how much I'm enjoying it. Rarely, if ever, I don't think I can really think of there's very few instances where they they show an aspect of God in people's thinking. So you don't see anybody say, I need to pray on that, or what my what God's will is in this situation, or there's never a God factor ever. And it shouldn't surprise us if our founding fathers were godly men, that they would that they would eliminate that that they would want to just brush over this holiday.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. You know, I think Chris Anne's gonna get when she gets on here, I think she will get into that more. It's important that people understand uh that the date was changed from when it was written. Okay? A country was not uh uh declared, you know, there was an independence that was declared, but uh our our country was established. Alright, it wasn't just declared, it was established on the 2nd. July 2nd, 1776.

SPEAKER_11

Very interesting. I'm excited to hear what she's got to say.

SPEAKER_03

So we we have a lot of things lined up before we get into our first uh guest here, right? Um we had talked pre-show about a lot of quotes. I g you know, you read a few of them to me earlier, and I I just couldn't believe how uh poignant or sa uh s salient or up-to-date, sorry, how current some of these are to today, to where we're at today.

SPEAKER_11

They're blowing me away too, brother. I know. If people let government decide which foods they eat and medicines they take, their bodies will soon be as sorry state as are the souls of those who live under tyranny. Thomas Jefferson. Think about that for a minute.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, now that's huge. I mean, what about what does look at our food supply chain right now?

SPEAKER_11

I know. Look at our look at what Big Bom is doing to us, right? Yeah. Unbelievable how how poignant that one was. Here's another one uh from Thomas Jefferson. When the people fear their government, there is tyranny. When the government fears the people, there is liberty.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you know, that's one of my favorite ones. They're quick, they're to the point.

SPEAKER_11

And um Yeah, they're powerful, aren't they?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, big time.

SPEAKER_11

Here's another one. Freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by the by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature, Benjamin Franklin.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, that's good, man. You know, in a lot of these guys, yeah, I mean, when they were writing these kind of things, they were young. I mean, they were you know teens and twenties when they were writing these things. And you know, some of these guys were in their 30s, but um think about the that generation right now, that age group.

SPEAKER_11

Well, now that you mentioned that, what is going on right now in the civil discourse? Everybody I don't really want to make cast stones and make this about right and left issues, but people on the left seem to despise the truth. So they think that uh a good debate is if they yell louder and longer, right?

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Check this one out from John Adams. Yeah. I fear that in every elected office, members will obtain an influence by noise, not sense, by meanness, not greatness, by ignorance, not learning, by contracted hearts, not large souls. There must be decency and respect, John Adams. Damn.

SPEAKER_03

So good.

SPEAKER_11

We're living it, dude. They war they tried to warn us, and that's why they've removed all this stuff from our school, from our teaching, right? They don't want us to know this truth, these truths, because they wanted to lead us right down this path so they could slaughter us. Clearer than ever. Yeah. When you read this, it's clearer than ever what they're what they've done.

SPEAKER_03

I hope they understand what these uh meanings were. And uh they can relate them from that time when they were trying to establish a new country and and pull away from that British crown, right? To to times like this. I think we're in a rougher situation right now than than they were back then. I mean, the tyranny on top of us right now is way, way uh more intense. I mean, those guys got pissed off for paying the 3% tax. We're we're we're close to 40 right now, and we're still sitting around like a bunch of dummies.

SPEAKER_11

There's I have a bunch, dude. Here's one, uh, here's Patrick Henry.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, oh yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Is life Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death.

SPEAKER_03

That's the one. I mean, that's the one that you see all over the place on flags, you know, uh in uh books, I mean, uh t-shirts, like I said, they that one is is already being used on merch all over the place. And here's a great one, yeah, it's a great one.

SPEAKER_11

Here's another one that hits me because um you know, I know that we're we're a c we're not necessarily a democracy as the media likes to constantly say, we're uh constitutional republic.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

And uh democracy is mob rule. Yeah. But a republic has some of that factor too, and and this addresses it. It says in republics, the great danger is that the majority may not sufficiently respect the rights of the more minority, James Madison. Now, in there is a lot of civility. He's trying to say that just because the majority rule doesn't mean that you have to like like where we are as a culture now, you see people and just go, Yeah, we're gonna get our way, and then no, you you you conservatives can eat it, right? And that's that's the mentality of the juvenile mentality of people nowadays. He was addressing that thing. Just because you're you you're you're majority one doesn't mean that you can't you get to disrespect the rights of the minority.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11

That's an interesting one to me.

SPEAKER_03

It is. It's good.

SPEAKER_11

Human passions unbridled by morality and religion would break the strongest cords of our constitution as a whole, as a whale goes through the through a net, John Adams. So we're looking at, you know, people just doing what they want to do. They're not unbright they're not bridled by morality or religion. And they're gonna break through the strongest cords of our constitution. Right. Look at where we're at right now. You know, nobody wants to be told that their that their way of life is maybe not the best way to go. They want to be told that no matter what their passions are, whatever their feelings are, they're all right. And then they're gonna they're trampling our constitution with that mentality. Right. These guys, I mean, I don't know, did they have a crystal ball or something? Did they have a time machine? What do they know?

SPEAKER_03

No, because I think, you know, in a in essence, tyranny is tyranny no matter you know what when what time period you're in. It's just you know, it varies a little bit, but ultimate tyranny is still, you know, the tyranny that these guys uh have fought before. We're seeing it on a different scale, maybe a a little bigger scale, right? Yep. But um, you know, tyranny is tyranny, man. I mean, there it's been done so many times. Look at communism. You know what I mean? They you know, it's still a tyrannical, you know, form of of government, and these guys didn't want anything to do with that. Yeah, those are good quotes, brother. You you found some good stuff. I mean, I'm I'm just loaded down with books in here today, but um, I I know you did some homework on some of these things, and and I really like what you you found. So we'll we'll keep hitting those in between our um you know, in between our uh guests. Um I'm gonna bring to you guys right now. This is uh you guys remember Good Patriot, right? Katie? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Oh we had her back uh well I forget what episode that was, but um I asked her to participate in today's uh extravagantia show, the Independence Day Extravagania show, and she she she you know she had to go out of town, but she said she was gonna record something for us. So uh she recorded this for us. Uh it's about five minutes long, and I'm gonna have her links for you guys in the description of the show today. So uh here she goes. This is a good one.

SPEAKER_00

Hi everyone, this is Katie from Good Patriot, and I'm just a girl who wants to be left alone by her government. I want to be able to do my work, pursue goals, love my family and my God in freedom. And I'm sure you feel that way too. But things have changed and we don't live in that world anymore. We are in the middle of a battle for our basic rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Those things were written in our Declaration of Independence hundreds of years ago by men faced with the same obstacles we are facing today. They were good men, they were patriots. I don't know about you, but I like practical and specific advice. I'm not a fan of when people say things like, just have faith, or you gotta fight back. Because what exactly does that look like? In 1776, it looked like 56 men signing a document that would ensure our liberty here in the United States faced with the onslaught of tyrannical laws, oppression from seemingly untouchable politicians, and the threat of battle, much like we're facing today, they pledged to each other their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor. On a practical level, this is what that meant. Of the 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence, nineteen put on a military uniform and went to war. Two died at the hands of the British, and seven others died during the war. Two were wounded in battle, five were made prisoners of war, seventeen lost their estates or fortunes, five incurred heavy debt by personally financing the war, fourteen lost their families or were separated from them, two lost children, and three lost their wives. But there is no recorded time in history of any of the 56 signers refusing to deliver on their promise and pledge to each other and their country. They fought hard and lost much because freedom is not something that comes cheaply or easily, but they knew that it would be worth it for themselves and for us. We may not all agree politically, but one thing that is undeniable is that our country is changing and not for the better. Our politicians are focused on their own self-preservation and power. We are divided in every way, and there is a goal to ultimately destroy faith in God, the family unit, and our freedom, the very things that make this country great. This situation we are presented with demands an answer to a very important question. Are you willing to do the hard and righteous things to preserve our freedom? Are you willing to pledge your life, fortune, and sacred honor? Here's what being a good patriot looks like in 2022 on a practical level. We train, we keep ourselves healthy and strong. We educate ourselves on what's happening in the world, even when it's scary. We make plans and prepare our network of friends. We study warfare. We eat lots of chocolate and macaroni and cheese. I just threw that in there to see if you're listening. We read God was God's word and discernment for discernment and guidance. We get out of debt so we aren't slaves to our creditors. We cut off mainstream news. We get to know and develop relationships with our local law enforcement. We hold our elected officials accountable when they do wrong. We speak up even when it's uncomfortable or intimidating. We are willing to lose relationships with people that don't like to hear truth and walk away from us. We make sacrifices to be able to homeschool our kids. We run for school board. We show up when we're tired. We are willing to get uncomfortable, and we pray and ask God to prepare our hearts, minds, and hands for what's ahead. I know this is not a lighthearted speech for such a fun day where we're celebrating our independence, but I want us to be able to celebrate our independence year after year, and that takes hard work. There is a claim that Thomas Jefferson once said, I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery. That is an easy quote to wear in a t-shirt or put on your wall. But will you live it? You may think that you don't have it in you, but God placed you in this specific time in history for a reason. For this fight, we need that warrior seed that he placed inside you for such a time as this. What that looks like is different for each person, but the question and calling is the same for all of us. Are you willing to be a good patriot? And I pray that you say yes. And I promise you it will be worth it. Have a wonderful Independence Day, everyone. God bless.

SPEAKER_03

Katie, thank you so much. That was good, uh, good Patriot Katie right there from Texas. So uh Outcast, what did you think of that? It was really good, huh?

SPEAKER_11

Amazing. Uh she's she's I mean, she was nailing every point so well. A thought that I want to share with our listeners is um she listed all these um I don't this isn't the right word to say virtuous, but all these great virtues that us as um patriots have, which are, you know, uh, you know, you turn on turn off the media and you seek your own, you know, everything that she listed. I was thinking some people are better at those things than others. Uh so as a collective, we look at this like the the things that she listed. You may not be an expert gardener, but you're you're a great communicator. You might not be great at speaking up in public, but you're you know, everybody has got different strengths. And that list of things that she said is what we're gonna need to to go forward. Um, I'd like to go back and listen to it again real r you know in a minute, but uh but she she brought up some incredible points. I I just uh she hit it out of the park. She's incredible.

SPEAKER_03

That's a good down-to-earth current day message that that we can use. It's a solution type of method, right?

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, and another powerful takeaway is how she started out when she was talking about what the founding the the signers of the constitution lost. The founders lost.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

Some were were killed, some were taken to battle, some lost their uh, you know, went bankrupt fighting, right? Yeah. Um that's an incredible testimonial. It's like, do you do you want to be a you know, a miserable slave, or do you want to be, you know, do you want to die fighting for freedom? I mean, it's you you almost don't have a choice. You have to fight for what's right. You can't let them just trample us. But here they've made us passive and they've made us sick and they've made our minds weak. Look what they've done. I mean, and she's hearkening us back to a time when people were thinkers, right? And fighters.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

And they had they had fortitude and they had principles and they had God. Uh, she brings up all those points so well.

SPEAKER_03

I know. So good. Um, and a lot of her videos are like that too. You know, you watch her videos on YouTube, and uh, she is so good with all that, bringing all those points forward, you know, um, and no matter what she's doing, she's always working on those solution-based uh ideas that we always talk about on the show. You know, whether it's gardening or preparing your uh preparing your uh body and you know your health, preparing your um your your uh security, right, at home.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. I love how she even she even mentioned getting you know, making sure that you you're get your finances in order so you're not in debt, because that debt is servitude.

SPEAKER_03

She pretty much hit on all the points. So she did. Coming up here in just a few minutes, we have Kate Daly. Um she's been uh you know, she's been talked about on this show a lot. We like her content. Uh uh she even does the uh the fourth hour on uh every Wednesday on InfoWars.

SPEAKER_11

So that's really good. She's done some pot she's done some podcasts that were like total and utter wake-up calls for me. Amazing stuff.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you know, she's got you know, we can talk to her about that too a little bit, but um I know she's got a really good story that I'm I'm gonna have her talk about, and um it's gonna blow a lot of people's minds about uh you know about what we're talking about. This is a lot of history that's been forgotten, not talked about in schools, right? Not um uh I I think purposefully, so people will forget certain things. You know, if you erase what's the old saying, you you take people's history away, you can control the past, control the future. Sorry. Yeah, so it's it's these kinds of things that uh you know were forgotten about um I think purposefully. And they could have easily been talked been talked about in school, and maybe they were at some point, but not not for us, you know. Yeah. So it's uh it it gets a little, you know, when you when you go back and you realize the things that were taken from us knowledge-wise, and and and to see how if they would have been in place all this time, how maybe some of our kids, uh some of these den generations wouldn't have gotten so uh what's the word, communized or Marxist, uh the teachings. I mean, who knows, but we are where we are, right? And there's only one way to get out of it, and that's that's knowledge, and that's training and learning, and everything that we try to promote on this show. So do you have any more quotes? You got another founder's quote?

SPEAKER_11

Uh yeah, I do. I this one I there's a few here that I love. Here, uh, this one is um from James Madison. The truth is that all men having power ought to be mistrusted.

SPEAKER_03

Wow, that was quick and simple. Uh-huh. Powerful. It's see, that's what I'm saying. It's like those things, those are like laser targets, right? Those things just hit hard.

SPEAKER_11

It takes you know, that's if they're if they're gonna try to shout these down, all they're doing is shouting because they don't have facts, they don't have anything to back this up. These these these guys were astute thinkers. They were in man in many cases, they were inspired by the Scottish Enlightenment. And then even before the Scottish Enlightenment, they were inspired by the Declaration of Arbroth.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

And um, I mean, these guys weren't these guys weren't casual uh making quotes off the top of their head. These guys were learned thinkers who believed in in liberty and saw what tyranny did to humanity throughout the world. Yeah. And they this experiment that they created was uh uh an attempt to bring people under the god the godly sphere of their own liberty, and that's just amazing. Here's here's another one that's very timely for right now. Okay. Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into the polluted vehicle. Thomas Jefferson.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's a good one, too. I remember that. There's quite there's there's quite a few quotes like similar to that, talking about the fake news from you know, OG fake news, old school fake news. And it was with them back then too.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah. You want more? Yeah, give me another one. Okay, so this one is remarkable to me. It's from George Washington. It it harkens to one of our favorite biblical quotes, which is in Ephesians. Uh, I can't remember the exact Ephesians it is, but it says, Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, rather expose them.

SPEAKER_08

Yep.

SPEAKER_11

This is a George Washington uh quote that says, Truth will ultimately prevail where pain is taken to bring it to light.

SPEAKER_03

Good stuff, brother. I like it. Hey, why don't we um uh we're just about time where I gotta get a hold of Kate Dally and get her on a show. So why don't we take this quick break and I'm gonna get her on the line with you here, and then uh we'll get into uh her interview. So on the other side of this, you guys, we'll be right back on the uh Independence Day Extravaganza show. We'll be right back after this.

SPEAKER_09

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SPEAKER_01

Jesse James and Outcaster on the ride. Exposing the plans of the telephone verlords and fair for the Pokemon Papa. You're listening to the Dangerous Info Podcast with Jesse James.

SPEAKER_03

Alright, you guys, welcome back to the dangerous info podcast. I am Jesse James and he's Outcast. And coming up right now, we have the amazing Kate Daly, alright? Kate Daly is a cutting-edge national, nationally record a recognized radio host. She is nationally syndicated in multiple markets, live including Chicago, Oregon, uh, Alabama, Utah, and many online platforms. Her daily live show is turned into a daily podcast. Seven amazing week uh weekly hook co-hosts with different points of view. No parameters or politically correct talking points, just like we like it, right? Just an equal opportunity offender to both sides of the aisle because you know what? The truth matters. Kate Daly, how are you doing, Kate?

SPEAKER_06

I'm on the top of a mountain.

SPEAKER_03

Are you enjoying standing on a mountaintop?

SPEAKER_06

Yes.

SPEAKER_03

What are you doing with the family?

SPEAKER_06

Uh it's oh yeah, it's so nice to take away from all the pieces of objects and and not get bombarded and just sit up here in the mountains. I'm on the top of a mountain and it's absolutely beautiful, and it's surrounded by trees, and I'm just loving it. Every minute of it. It's a great way to look great, uh, independent day.

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How are you guys doing?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, we're doing great. We have Outcast, he's uh co-host on the show with us here today.

SPEAKER_11

Hi, Kate. I gotta tell you, I'm I'm I'm a pretty big fan. I'm really stoked to have you on the show. It's great that you're here. Thanks for taking the time.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, no, she's still there. Now we we knew this is gonna be a tough call because she was up in the in the mountains and everything. And um hopefully if if you get a signal, go ahead, Kate. If it gets too bad, we can redo this if we have to. But uh sorry about that. Oh, no worries.

SPEAKER_11

Kate Kate, did you hear my did you hear my gushing, uh my gushing praise of you?

SPEAKER_03

Yes. Okay, all right.

SPEAKER_11

I just want to make sure you heard it.

SPEAKER_03

People like you uh give us inspiration to what we do.

SPEAKER_07

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Well um there is a story. If we can try to get the story squeezed in, the story that you have about um the first 20 slaves back in the 1600s.

SPEAKER_06

Oh my gosh. Yeah, yeah. This is huge because people don't know this. And I did this on the Alex Jones show. Um, back in the 1600s, Anthony first slaves to come over to America against his will, of course.

SPEAKER_03

Anthony Johnson, right?

SPEAKER_06

And uh he back then it was your age of tenure, and when he earned his freedom, they you know, you could get like a bucket of food and a and maybe a shirt, and they tell you to go on your way. Well, he ended up being a very, very wealthy black man, and he and wanted to own slaves, so he started buying other black men and slaves. And when it was a man named John Castor, and it was a black man owning a black slave, and this was in the 1600s, and the court man owning a black man for life. That was when it started, and it changed the face of even slavery after world after centuries of slavery. It went beyond servitude, eighty to ten years, where there was some hope that they could get their freedom back. A lifetime he petitioned the Pennsylvania court and he won beyond his court with a black slave for life. And that's when it was a lifelong sentence that it was. But it wasn't because of a white man, it was because of a black movement, ironically enough.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, Anthony Anthony Johnson petitioned the courts so that he can own black men. Yes, that it's such a crazy story.

SPEAKER_06

I know, and people don't know that in history, and when they find that out, there's respective changes because when the constitution what they eat was dry, they went ahead and they started um doing the underground railroad. And the underground railroad was done by Quaker uh ministers and Quaker congregations, whole congregations worked in secret with former slaves to construct the railroad. Without the Quakers, we wouldn't have had an underground railroad. Harriet Tubman came in at the last of a 15-year thing on 80 years. So it had already been going for 65 years before Harriet Tubman came on.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, yes, she gets all the praise for it.

SPEAKER_06

She gets all the credit. Yes, and all the movies and everything else, they wanted to make her the face of it. She only freed about 50 people, mostly her family.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_06

But it was also a mindset that we had to change a worldwide slavery of all kinds for years and years and years. I mean, this went on for so long, and the miracle of our nation is that we ended that in eighty years. For any country, eighty years, we end it, and everybody else's constitution then reflected those thinking.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you know, and think about prior to that, slavery was around for thousands of years. And it only took us eighty years.

SPEAKER_06

White and Jew and Christian and Chinese and Irish and you name it. I mean, it wasn't just America and it wasn't just the black man. It went on for centuries.

SPEAKER_03

So important. So important, you know, and we talked about Outcast and I earlier about how uh education just doesn't talk about these things. They they stay very narrow in in what they're teaching. And we we know what a problem that is. We know what they're doing. We know what these communist Marxists are doing to our kids.

SPEAKER_06

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Back in 1907, the Carnegie Foundation and the Ford Foundation, those foundations, not good. Anyway, they started on a trail of of notes that we that that were found. Um, because they were found in an investigation from the studies into um the Carnegie Foundation to find out what they had written down. They they wanted to change education back in the 1907. So they actually sent out a fund.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you were in London, yeah. You were the the school in London.

SPEAKER_06

They sent them to London, they sent them to London so they could change the face of American history.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_06

It was it was amazing the travesty involved in our education system from 1907 on because they did not want the real stories told. Otherwise, we would have a nation that knew when they were hearing the BF. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_03

Right, yeah, they they'd be able to recognize it. Uh Alcass, I think you had something to ask.

SPEAKER_11

We we were just reading some quotes from the Founding Fathers, and you know, I I joked and said before you got on, we were reading these quotes, and I'm like, it's like they had a crystal ball or a time machine. No, they were just they were just intelligent people, and we've been denied this information, which leaves us ignorant to repeat, and that's just all by design. And what everything you're saying is kind of echoing those thoughts that we just had before we had you on.

SPEAKER_06

Absolutely, because this is the way this is how it works, and there's concerted plans, and when people finally realize these concerted plans from the beginning really of the of the 1900s to do away with all this history, when you tell a black man, and I've had this experience by the way, when you tell a black man about Anthony Johnson and John Cassor and the Quakers, maybe it changes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

You you broke up right there, but it changes the whole landscape of their thoughts. I mean, we've been the the whole groundwork, they've been good, you know, teaching us all this nonsense, right? So they laid a nice, nice foundation of uh of false history, and and when you start to break that apart with facts like you just brought us here with Anthony Johnson and John Cassor, I mean, that's gotta break down something, get people, some of these people to be more red pilled and and want to actually search out real truth like you do on your show.

SPEAKER_06

It's such a deceiving lie because the state has the state has the power for 49 years. They didn't just get it out last Friday. They have the power, and it makes me sick because it makes it look like the state could just receive the power because they overturned it. The state could have done something about it all along. But they chose to ask it, like, and that's the big reference here.

SPEAKER_03

Oh no. Yeah, you're actually cutting off right now, so I can't hear anything that you're saying. But um, if we do this in a couple weeks, I'll I'll um I'll text you. We'll figure this out. Um, you brought some good heat here on the show today, so there's there's enough for us to go on for our extravaganza show today for Independence Day. Yes, Kate, Kate Dally, everybody. Appreciate you, Kate, Kate, for uh hanging in there and trying to get this done. So um let's get back together and we'll uh we'll make this happen on another time when you're in a better spot. So enjoy the rest of your weekend, Kate. Happy Independence Day to you. I think we're able to get enough information there with her. Okay. You know, I I don't know how you felt about it. I mean, there she had some really good stuff in there.

SPEAKER_11

She's got so much, she's got passion, she's got fire, she's articulate, and to have her chopped up like that just isn't really fair to the message.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Not a lot of people talk about him, but this is uh one of our founder, founding fathers, really important to the cause, uh, Dr. Joseph Warren. And if you guys have watched any type of I don't know, Sons of Liberty, any of these kind of shows, or read these important books, uh, you'll know about him, but he was very important, and his name was never put on with everybody else's on the Constitution then. So check this all out right here.

SPEAKER_05

Today's Forgotten Founder didn't sign the Declaration of Independence or the United States Constitution. But there was no one more influential to the cause of liberty or more obnoxious to the British than Dr. Joseph Warren. This is part of the Forgotten Founder series I post every Friday. Please like and follow for more history content just like this. While practicing medicine and surgery in Boston, he became involved in politics, associating with John Hancock, Daniel Adams, and other leaders of the broad movement labeled distance of liberty. In 1768, royal officials tried to place his publisher Ethan Gill on trial for a scandalous newspaper article Warren Road under the pseudonym of Propatriot. But no local jury would indict them. Warren was actually the one that enlisted Color Dear and William Dodd on April 18, 1775, to leave Boston and spread the alarm that the British garrison in Boston was setting out to raid the town of Concord and arrest rebel leaders John Hancock and Samuel Adams. But it is at Bunker Hill where Warren dies in Martyr's death. He was so despised by the Red Coats that British General Thomas Gage said, Warren's death was worse than the death of 500 men. Warren was killed instantly. Witnesses claimed that British officer Lieutenant Lord Rawden recognized Warren and shot him point-blank in the head. In a letter to John Adams, Benjamin Hitchcoin describes the damage that British Lieutenant Dave Drew inflicted on Warren's body two days after the Battle of Bunker Hill. Writing, In a day or two after Drew went upon the hill again, opened the dirt that was thrown over Dr. Warren, spit in his face, jumped on his stomach, and at last cut off his head and committed every act of violence upon his body. Warren's body was exhumed 10 months later after his death by his brothers and Paul Revere, who identified the remains by a dental implant that Paul Revere had placed in Warren's job. Joseph Warren became an instant hero. His death was immortalized in John Trump's painting, The Death of General Warren. In New England, every state has a town named in his honor. In death, he was the hero. His life cut tragically short and his potential unknown.

SPEAKER_03

What do you think of that? Wow.

SPEAKER_11

That's what right near me is Warren, Michigan.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, there's a lot of Warren stuff. So uh that guy was very, very instrumental in uh the forming of the, you know, he was part of the Sons of Uh Liberty, too, I believe. Uh Wow. Yep.

SPEAKER_11

Here's another one. Uh the essence of government is power. And power, lodged as it must be in human hands, will ever be liable to abuse. James Madison. Excellent. Good one. Makes you think of our our congressman, doesn't it? Yeah. It does. You know, in in the main, here's another one for you while you're while you're texting. In the main, it will be found that power over a man's support slash salary is a power over his will. Alexander Hamilton. Now think about that when they were trying to leverage people to get the vaccine for their jobs. Right? Yep. So let me repeat that. In the main, it will be found that power over a man's salary is a power over his will.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. You know, a lot of these quotes come out of the Federalist Papers, which are, you know, the notes and the pre-documents that they used to build, you know, this is this was their arguments and everything too that they used to pre-build uh to write out the Constitution. You know, so they held all these different um conversations and debates and and and everything in order to get this all taken care of. You know, it w they didn't just come and write the Constitution, that was it. No, it was built upon. I mean, it it goes way back even into the 1600s. I mean, it goes back to the Magna Carta. I mean, everything in history built on there was a lot of building, a lot of foundational work, right? So a lot of these powerful quotes are coming from that too. Um, there's a bunch. Do you have one from Thomas Paine? He was one, you know, he wrote Common Sense, and uh he was the one that got uh it was Thomas Paine, um, Sam Adams, Paul Revere, uh John Hancock.

SPEAKER_11

I'm sure I have a Thomas Paine. I gotta look, though. I'm looking.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you know what? I actually I have I have one right here, and this is a good one too. I like this. Check this out, you guys. So this one here comes from uh Thomas Paine, The Crisis Number One, 1776. It says, Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered. Yet we have this consolation with us that the that the harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. You know, they were under big pressure back then. You know, we're we're feeling some pressures like that now. I don't know. I don't we're you know, it's these kind of things that they they pass forward to us that we can look for in order to you know to uh to to work on the tyranny that we have coming into us right now. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_11

Um, you know, Katie was in in her her thing that you read or that you played of her speaking. Yeah, she talked about, you know, being made for such a time as this. And this one kind of to me it's a it it lightly uh links right up to it. It's from Thomas Jefferson. It says, Do you want to know who you are? Don't ask.

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Act.

SPEAKER_11

Action will delineate and define you.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Yeah, that's a good one too. You know, these things are powerful, man. You g and and you gotta s you some of these are just not to the point uh so quick and easy, right? You gotta think about some of these and you gotta read it read a couple of them some a couple times in order to figure this stuff out. But um basically it was all written for laymen to understand you know, the the the tyranny that was over them back then. And you know, they they put it forward into the future for people like us so we can still understand what they're talking about and how to deal with these things. You know, um we'll get more into that kind of stuff when Chris Ann comes on here in just a few minutes. But um do you have another quote?

SPEAKER_11

I've always got them. I got a few more here. Uh let's see here. This is a good one. The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed, which Americans possess over other uh over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. Yeah. James Madison.

SPEAKER_03

So good. So good. It looks like Christian's about ready to take my call. I know they're right in the middle of something, but that just came up. Christian received her bachelor's degree in biochemistry from Blackburn College and her jurisdictor from the University of Florida College of Law. Uh she served in the U.S. Army as a military intelligence cryptologic linguist and was a prosecutor for the state of Florida for nearly a decade. Christianne also worked with a prominent national First Amendment law firm where she traveled the country defending Americans whose rights were violated by unlawful arrests and prosecutions. Uh Christiane is the most sought-after national speaker on the Constitution, averaging over 250 events in nearly 22 states every year for seven years straight. Uh you got she's got the books on American history and the U.S. Constitution. She's got two documentaries about the power of the states and the duty of the sheriff, which is very, very important. She's also professor at a River University School of Government and the Chief Counsel for Liberty First Legal. Uh and in her uh website, Liberty FirstLegal.com. National nonprofit law firm defending the civil rights of the people. She's somebody we want to have on our side. Uh she's a regular consultant for the Constitution on numerous radio podcasts and television programs. Yeah, but hello, Christine. How are you? Fantastic Mario. Very, very good on this Independence Day extravaganza show. Um I just registered TV for everybody so they know who we're talking to, and they know that you uh you've been on this show before and people love you. And uh uh couldn't have done this show without you. This is the extravaganza show of Independence Day, not 4th of July.

SPEAKER_08

Right, thank you very much for that.

SPEAKER_03

We want to welcome you. And we just got off the phone with Kate. She's up on the top of a mountain somewhere having a great time. You know, I've been telling people here, uh, you know, on my social media and my friends and my family for the last couple of years, because I learned this from you a while ago. July 2nd is our real date.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, it's July 2nd is the day we became independent.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_07

July 4th is just simply the day that we published and declared what we had done two days prior. And John Adams on July 3rd, 1776, wrote a letter to his wife Abigail explaining what had happened on July 2nd. And he said that July 2nd will be an epic day where Americans will celebrate their independence forevermore. And so uh our founders believed that July 2nd was our independence day because that was the day that the first Continental Congress signed the Lee Resolution, and the Lee Resolution was the legislative act that that established our legal and political separation from Great Britain. Because remember, the colonies were British owned. They were and everyone who lived in the colonies were British subjects. So legally they were bound by uh to Great Britain, but also politically they were bound to Great Britain because you know they were British subjects. And so the Lee Resolution being uh debated, voted, and ratified into law on July 2nd, 1776, established the legal and political separation from Great Britain, which instantly transformed our colony into free and indep 13 independent countries or states. The word state, country, that's synonymous. And so they're just simply publishing and declaring what had been done legally two days and politically two days prior.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Now, why uh outcast is on the line here with us too. Outcast, do you have a question?

SPEAKER_11

Nope, nope, I'm in I'm in learning mode because uh she brings so much knowledge I try to absorb what I can. Okay. I'm seriously like listening to everything. I'm like, wow.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

So it was 1868 when the federal government, by decree, declared July 4th to be our Independence Day.

SPEAKER_03

And why do you think they did that?

SPEAKER_07

Well, I don't have I I I can't let me just tell you, I don't really like teaching things that are simply opinions, but I believe that I have a really strong foundation for what I believe, and I believe that my conclusions are evidenced by what we're seeing today. Right? So July 2nd, being Independence Day, um ties us to a specific history, ties us to the fact that this was a legislative act, a legal act just as binding as anything that our Congress does today that's legal. And by turning uh that's constitutional, and by turning aside July 2nd as Independence Day, three things actually happen. Number one, you lose detachment with that history, the real history of our independence. Number two, then now you can be be brought under a revisionist history. That it was the Declaration of Independence that made us uh independent from Great Britain, and we all know the Declaration of Independence was written by a bunch of, you know, 56 guys that were not act or were signed by 56 guys that were elected by no one, and they were a bunch of rich elite sway uh white slave owners who just wanted to overthrow Great Britain so that they could have all the power, right? So by setting aside the fact that it was actually a legislative act on July 2nd, now you can open the door for all of this revision that teaches us to discredit, to hate, to denounce what actually happened. And then the third thing that happens, okay, is it establishes that our Independence Day was created by the federal government.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and that's that's the big one, right?

SPEAKER_07

Not by a legislative act. Our f our Independence Day was actually created by the federal government, which means fast forward now, you know, uh so it was 1868, 150 years, fast forward. And now since the government created the first Independence Day, then they ought to be able to change their mind and create a new Independence Day, you know, Juneteenth. June uh right? So June 19th. So if they made the first one, then they should have the power to change their minds and make a second one, which will then bring us even further from the fundamental principles that drove uh the founders of our independence to be independent.

SPEAKER_03

Wow, and if they can do that, they can probably just do away with one at some point, right?

SPEAKER_07

Well, yeah, I mean you never governments are never gonna do away with with anniversaries.

SPEAKER_08

Right.

SPEAKER_07

Because anniversaries make people loyal to government, right? Especially when you're when you're rewriting them. So if this July if if July 2nd is our independence day, then you realize that our independence was not was the exact opposite of that. Our independence was a loyalty to liberty, not a loyalty to government, right? But then you move to July 4th as an act of the federal government. Now we have all of this patriotism that is not defined as love of country in liberty, but patriotism that is defined as love of government in country, right? So July 4th, 1868, we just came out of civil war, and now we have to be patriotic in the definition of loving the federal government, right? So then you move forward to June 19th as the new Independence Day, and what you're able to incorporate now under June 19th, right?

SPEAKER_08

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_07

Is that you have a patriotism from from the first July 4th creation towards the federal government, but June 19th is actually our Independence Day because that's the day the federal government made everybody independent.

SPEAKER_03

Go ahead, Alcast. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

I'm just I I'm a conceptual thinker. Like you're you're great with this the finite details. I'm just forgive me, but I I gotta kinda I don't want to put words in your mouth. I'm just trying to ask something here. But I uh the more I learn, the more I realize I I don't under I mean how much of our history's been hidden from us and how nefarious it is, and and that I I like to word it as a seed war. There's there's two seeds on the planet, and one is trying to subdue the other. And are are you kind of saying here that that very um from the onset, this great experiment was being sabotaged from day one, essentially? There was there was efforts being made to regain control of this this wild experiment. Is that kind of a fair thing to say?

SPEAKER_07

Okay, well, I don't um l let me answer that in two parts. Uh the answer to that question is yes, is absolutely yes, and I can and I can tell you how that actually is evidenced in actual history. But uh what you're seeing is the product of that, right? So let me let me explain to see, I'm not just simply a student of of history. I know history. I know history in great detail dating back to the year 849. Okay, so if we're talking about British history, if we're talking about the the foundation of America as as a as an evolution of British law and British history, British experience with government, I know this. Okay, this is my expertise. But I am also a student of human nature, right? So anybody who studies history has to to to be an effective historian has to also understand human nature. The the the thing that that Solomon said there's nothing new under the sun, and that's because human nature never changes, why we as a people must admit that we always end up repeating our stupid mistakes, you know, throughout our lives, and that's just human nature, right? And so as a student of history, I know the facts, I know how all of this moves, but as a student of human nature, I also understand wh how things happen, right? So vi uh revolutions like ours, where through war we overturn government, changes politics, but it doesn't change culture. And so while we changed the name and who uh the origin of our laws and the and the the government itself, we did not change the culture of the people. And so what happens is if you want long-term change, like the Marxists know that the Marxists know long-term change comes through education, it comes through cultural change. It's why the Marxists began taking over our education system in the mid-1800s, and now we're only seeing the real culmination of that. And so revolutions like ours may change out who's in government, but the danger is they don't change the culture. And you have within the culture, obviously, those who respect liberty, who understand liberty, who who respect the rights of each other, but you will always all always also have those in society who are addicted to k to being subjects, who want to be ruled by kings. And we didn't culturally change that in 1776. So from day one, the people were pushing for a return, maybe not consciously, could even be subconsciously, for a return to a government that takes care of them. And that's antithetical to the foundation of America. America's foundation is on self-governance, it's not on government taking care of you. And so you have uh James Madison arguing before the House of Representatives in 1791, and again in 1792, as representative from his district, he's a congressman now in in the federal government representing his district in Washington in Virginia, arguing to the Congress that it's not Congress's job to take care of the American people, that they don't have limited power, and this is key, that the General Welfare Clause, James Madison, who we call the father of the Constitution, is explaining to Congress that the General Welfare Clause does not mean that the federal government can do generally whatever it thinks is good in 1791 and 1792. So that's your understanding that the culture from the very beginning there was this struggle to retain the Liberty Foundation of America and and resist that the sub you know the the subject status of of government taking care of people.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. So yeah, I was gonna say, you know, look at look at the people today. It's like so many people think that the f federal government gives them everything. And for some people it does. Yeah. It's just like they're relying on it.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's human nature.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

There are things that will never change. There are people who are enslaved who who don't even know they're enslaved. And that's you mean if you if you didn't have that human nature principle, then you would have no such thing as Stockholm Syndrome, where which is a psychological condition where people actually fall in love with their captors. And so all our psyche is a very resilient thing. And when we become uncomfortable, then as human nature dictates, we have a tendency to to hold tighter to the things that make us comfortable, even if they're not what's good for us. And it's why the Declaration Penance reads that uh Jefferson wrote that people will suffer evil as long as evil is sufferable, but after a long train of abuses, right? It's that's when when when evil is no longer sufferable, when when you've been suffering under these trains of abuses and usurpations and violations, that you finally come to where you have nothing to lose. Then you have nothing to cling to for comfort, then people start waking up and realizing, hey, there's something else that needs to be done here.

SPEAKER_11

No wonder they see us as cattle.

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Yes.

SPEAKER_03

It's almost like it's almost like this is a neutral point for for for so many people. I mean, of course the government's gonna go right to this and stick to this and try to teach people that this is what they how they want people to to to react or behave. And there's so many.

SPEAKER_07

Well, this is exactly the yeah, this is the source of the government of American education system. There's an article on my website called uh my website, Chrisannehall.com, called Stolen Education, Stolen Children, Stolen Future, where I uh give you the timeline of the Marxist takeover of our education system. And it began uh in the mid-1800s and then finally uh had its foothold in 1903 with the creation of the General Education Board, which would become the Department of Education.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And the General Education Board, their driving mission statement by the president of the General Education Board was that we dream of the day when the people are docile subjects yielding to our ever-molding hand. And that's what our education system was designed to be to make us good, docile, obedient subjects. They began by teaching the parents that the schools can raise their children and give parents more time to do what they want or more time to work, and then all of a sudden you have this ideology that both parents have to work and it's a burden to take care of the child. Well, don't worry, the government will do that for you. We'll we'll take them from the cradle to the grave through the education system, and that's what we're battling against. But they haven't won. Okay, they haven't won.

SPEAKER_08

Right.

SPEAKER_07

Because the the battle is not over. And if there's uh there's many good things that actually came out of COVID, and one of the best things was the awakening of parents of what's actually being taught. Parents were thrust back into their children's educational lives, and it was like thrusting a face into to ice water, and the parents are like, Whoa, what the heck? And so now we have a massive exodus from these government schools, which the the media and the government won't talk about how bad it is for them now.

SPEAKER_08

Right.

SPEAKER_07

And then you have uh parents who are now not even taking up the government recommended textbooks. You know, we have Liberty First Society.com where we are teaching real American history, real civics, real constitutional application, and parents are looking for education like that for their children. Ten years ago, nobody looked for that. Well, not everybody, but uh a majority of the people were not even looking for something like that. You know, we had people who were beginning to wake up and people who were who were looking at this, but JC and I have been doing this for over 12 years now. We're coming up on year number 13, and so there have been people who've been battling longer than we have, the John Burke Society, 30 years doing this.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07

And so we are watching, and this is why I said they haven't won. As a matter of fact, they're going to lose, because we're watching a great awakening happening in America to truth, to wisdom, and to fact the fact that our rights are not constitutional, they don't come from the Constitution, our rights don't come from law, but our rights come by the nature of our creation being created by a higher power. That's what we know now.

SPEAKER_03

Beautiful. And people are willing to fight for it. Yeah, we are. That's why we're doing these shows. It's great. And that's why people love what you're doing, Christine. Uh, you guys have been on a mission for years, and I I, you know, for for for myself and outcasts, we just can't thank you guys enough for doing what you're doing. And we're just happy to be part of this and picking up some of these crumbs. And, you know, I said it before to you. You are the new uh Liberty leader of today, right? You are setting liberty fires where they need to be set. And we're we're just picking up the sparks and and we're we're creating it uh where where we are, right?

SPEAKER_07

Um, Abigail Adams said this. She said, uh, and this was back, you know, for her day, she said we she says the flame is lit, and we watch as it spreads from soul to soul. And that's what we're trying to do. We're trying to take the flame that they lit back in seventeen seventy and and spark it again throughout America. And then you know, you you you find people in in the conservative movement who are who are territorial. And and who are you know always trying to keep people quiet and taking the glory for themselves. But that's not us because we understand that it is really the multitude of voices and the multitude of fires that will actually ignite within the spirit of Americans again that that that liberty that we once held so dear.

SPEAKER_03

Right. Well, we just again thank you so much for what you're doing. Alcass, any outgoing words before she has to go?

SPEAKER_11

Well, I'm I I'm looking at a quote from Thomas Jefferson, and it to me that that it applies to the education topic, and it says, if a nation expects to be ignorant and free in a state of civilization, it expects what never was and never will be.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, and Samuel Adams said this no people will painly surrender their liberties nor be easily subdued when knowledge is diffused and virtue is preserved. He said, on the contrary, when the people become universally ignorant and debauched in their manners, they will think underneath their own weight without the aid of foreign invaders. And the people who took over our education system know that. And that's why they deliberately denied us truth in history and truth in government and truth in the power of the people to rule over their government and not be ruled by it. And that's why we're grateful for you know, for you guys bringing your voice out there. We're grateful for the opportunity to have LibertyFirstSociety.com to teach people these things because we are seeing a new revolution of the mind. We're watching the cultural change that was necessary in 1776 to avoid the violent revolution uh in the end. So we are engaging in the cultural revolution of peaceful, non-compliance, and education.

SPEAKER_03

And we thank you so much for doing that. Yeah, I I fully agree. The torch is lit and we're we're running with it too. And um you are the modern day uh Sam Adams, Thomas Paine, that's you. Oh, thank you. Yeah, so Christina, thank you. Thank you so much for what you guys are doing.

SPEAKER_07

Um I'd rather be the modern day Merci Otis Warren.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, she's awesome. She is so great. Yes. Do you want to touch on her real quick, or you you it's up to you?

SPEAKER_07

Oh, well, we're just I tell you what, we'll we'll leave the audience with who she is, and then they can go look her up. Her name is Merci Otis Warren. She is the first American woman playwright, the first American woman historian, and the first American woman political advisor. The men that we think of as the founders of America went to her for advice. Uh, and it's really a shame that Americans really don't know much about her. But she's an amazing, amazing woman.

SPEAKER_03

She is. I read a lot of stuff on her just because of what you've said in the past. And yeah, that's a great point to uh make and to leave off. So that's what we're doing. We're leaving these little truth, uh, truth spots for people to go get and pick up on. So um I want to thank you so much, Christine, for uh showing up here on our show again for and being part of our Independence Day Extravaganza show. I mean, this is a tough show to pull off. We had uh good Patriot on, we have Kate Daly on just before you, and uh JC's coming on after you.

SPEAKER_07

So uh it's been a he's a good cleanup hitter, I'll tell you what. He's gonna he's gonna give you a grand plan, bring you home.

SPEAKER_03

Well, good. So you guys listen, Christian Hall.com, LibertyFirstSociety.com, and uh don't forget about the non-compliant too, the sheriff movie that's coming out. That'll be out in I think October. So October. Yes, Christian, thank you so very much, and uh get to barbecuing.

SPEAKER_07

Thank you, sir. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_03

You guys go to get over there and see Christian Hall. Oh, this is JC texting me right now. So do you have any more quotes, Alcast?

SPEAKER_11

Oh, I've got a couple more here, yeah, that uh are from uh Benjamin Franklin. Uh actually one's from Benjamin Franklin, one's from John Adams. Um, freedom is not a gift bestowed upon us by other men, but a right that belongs to us by the laws of God and nature. Benjamin Franklin. John Adams says the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty is not in the power of man to alienate this gift. That's John Adams. Wow.

SPEAKER_03

That's good.

SPEAKER_11

Think about it like this. You know, she she was saying that, like, you know, the human nature is to say, take care of me. But the God-given nature is to embrace your freedom, right? You see the difference in the message here? Yep. So throughout history, throughout uh the British history, throughout uh all the different forms of government, it has subjugated its people and made them into brainless cattle waiting to be fed. And it ultimately becomes controlled and their freedom is gone. When when mankind turns its mind and its heart and its soul to God is where the pursuit of real freedom comes from, and the rejection of that, of that servitude and that that relationship, right? Yeah that's the that's that's what makes this uh uh such a fascinating experiment experiment in the United States. I mean, you would essentially you have these people seeking ultimate godly freedom and trying to construct a government around it to kind of protect it in a way. And uh it's conflicting sometimes. I mean, we can't we can't be surprised if there's hiccups and problems because the the two are kind of oil and water. One is the if Satan is is the master of the of this plane of existence of the earth, right? Not just to say the master, but he's the prince of this of this realm, these powers and these principalities, of course it's going to be in contradiction to what God wants us to be. Right. It takes us it takes us to turn our hearts fully to God before we can fully embrace the concept of freedom. And as our culture falls farther and farther away from God, you can see people running further and further into subjugation.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Powerful stuff, brother. Um I was just riffing off the top of my head. Well, that's the that's the best way. That's awesome. Yeah, I like that a lot. Why don't we get JC on the line right now? You guys remember JC Hall? He was on our uh what episode 24, and uh he's back today again. Uh JC is not ashamed of his faith. He's not ashamed of his home, and he wants the world to know. He aims to equip patriots like you to broadcast truth wherever you go with the gods with his god, guns, liberty gear, and apparel. JC and his wife, Christian, are dedicated teaching patriots who want to pass on the gift of liberty to all of us that our forefathers handed down to us. And JC, are you there, sir?

SPEAKER_09

I am here. How are you doing today, my friend?

SPEAKER_03

Brother JC, it's been real. How about how about you? It's been a uh a busy day for us here today. I know you guys have been welcome to the uh Independence Day Extravaganza show, brother. Yes, sir. Thank you very much. You're on here with myself and uh Outcast is on the line too.

SPEAKER_09

Welcome back, KC. Yes, sir. Glad to be here, man. You guys were up.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man.

SPEAKER_09

How do we feel about you?

SPEAKER_03

It's been fun. You know, uh I was telling uh Christian earlier we had uh Good Patriot. She was on first. Uh then we had uh Kate Daly. She was up on a mountain somewhere, and uh we had a little bit of trouble with her her phone, but uh she she was able to get us give us enough information that's gonna blow people's minds. You know, we've lost so much to history um, you know, by our government education system, and that's why I put the show together because I we need this history to stay alive and stay current and floating around in society. Um and I know you you have a great unsung heroes uh portion that you have on on the website.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, yeah. Matter of fact, yeah, unsungheroesproject.com. We have it linked at Chris Danhall.com. You can go there. Uh several biographies of um some founding patriots of color that are you know that they delete from history.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

So I I started uh I started trying to collect those and put those on there. Still a work in progress. I I got a I got a lot more to put up there, but uh yeah, good stuff, man.

SPEAKER_03

But see the the stuff that you put on there. Now we did this uh months ago, and I I featured one of these. Uh it might have been Crispus Addicts or um William Cal William Cooper Nell. I can't remember which one it was. Probably Crispus, because he was the first one. But we talked about him. Um it's crazy how so many people don't realize that they were it back back before the revolution, right? We had free black men, free black business owners. People don't understand this. Yeah. I mean Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

It's the whole I mean, you got the whole 16, 19, Juneteenth narrative. Uh and I just I just uh I was just looking at an article from uh what is it the Philadelphia I don't know if it's inquiry, one of the Philadelphia papers, and uh something to the extent of um the Fourth of July is uh racist and or proves America's racist and here's why. Uh and he runs through several distortions and and false narratives. I I I'm thinking I'm gonna take that article and just walk through it and and uh you know dismantle that on an on an episode. I think I'm gonna dedicate the whole episode of just going through that article and rebutting those things with truth. But that's the narrative now, you know, because they they want to divide America, set neighbor against that neighbor, uh, and their goal is to displace Independence Day holiday. Uh say this is racist. And so then we do away with that, and then we shift to Juneteenth. Juneteenth is the real uh real holiday of independence and freedom. And and that, you know, that's kind of I don't want to say the final their final victory, but uh uh you know, another feather in their hat of this uh victory of retribution and uh all this grievance worldview that they that they put forward.

SPEAKER_03

Right. You know, I think that's important. If you do do that, um I w we want to get in on that too, uh you know, as far as disseminating that information. Uh because that's very important. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

That's the point of those biographies. I mean, that's the point of the Unsung Heroes Project that that we began to put together. Uh-huh. Uh, you know, because I came across that William Cooper Nell's history and started to gather all these things and and uh because people need to be know the truth. Uh first off, the the whole slavery and and all that sort of thing and and the founders' relationship with slavery is a lot more complex uh than than that whitewash, no pun intended.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Um you know, so and it and it just it just continues to breed the sort of hatred of the country and hatred of uh of of your neighbor for no good reason. And uh all for the reason all for the point of weakening the nation uh to forward the the Marxist agenda to topple uh our form of government so it can be replaced with totalitarian government.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you know, and that's been a running theme with this show here today is uh you know the the whole Independence Day extravaganza. You know, we talked about July 2nd versus July 4th. Uh we talked about uh the the free black uh men or the the black slave owners back in the day. We we talked about all that. So my whole you know what what we were thinking about for this show was bringing the people something that they have never heard about this day, the Independence Day. Um and and those reasons why, which you you alluded to there, uh with our government indoctrination system, you know. So it's like uh if we can keep these things alive, these stories, these tales, these historic founders, these forgotten unknown founders, right? Uh I think that's what this this show that I'm trying to accomplish here is just to get that information out there. Uh not just for, you know, because you turn on the TV and you say, Oh, happy Fourth of July, cook hot dogs. That that's they don't say the word independence. Right. They never do that anymore. And I I was getting so mad yesterday. I was cooking breakfast, the wife had this TV on, and she turned it off because I just started bitching, right? Because they're they're not talking about she she they're not talking about independence. They're they're it's it's just a party now. That's all it is.

SPEAKER_09

Well, yeah, and I I think, you know, for a lot of people it just it just strikes people as semantics, like what's the big deal, you know. Uh but I don't know that most folks realize how subtle uh the the the methods are, you know what I mean? And it's really about seizing the language. One of one of their first and fundamental techniques is seize the language. And it seems like such a uh such a minute change. Oh, well, they say July 4th and 4th of July instead of saying independence, you know, whatever, Jesse, you're such a curmudgeon, what are you complaining about? Blah, blah, blah.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

But but it's just a subtle, very subtle shift that that that begins. First, you move to turn it into just a generic calendar day. Every calendar has a July 4th.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

You know, so it it becomes a nothing. Uh i it it gets it's devoid of any meaning. Well, then once you empty it of any meaning, then you can insert the new meaning uh that you want, or I think probably as Chris Ann talking about, you can easily just discard it and replace it with something else, like the new like the Juneteenth uh 1619 uh narrative. And and people, by the way, people should remember. I don't know how the folks listening go after this stuff. Uh, but the author of the 1619 project herself says that's not history, it's narrative. She doesn't call it history. Everybody else calls it history. She calls it narrative. Yeah, wasn't she?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, well, go ahead. What's her name? Uh she works for the New York Times.

SPEAKER_09

Uh she's Yeah, I for I forget the name, but you know, my theory, like, why would she do that? So she she creates this whole narrative of of lies and deception. Why would she be honest on that point of saying this is not history? And why not just be like Howard Zinn and just keep lying? Um so if you look back in some of the history and what was going on with her, she she's angling for promotion and professorship in North Carolina. I think she uh stayed away from calling it actual history and and clarified, no, this is just narrative, uh, because she didn't want to jeopardize uh her her chances of getting promoted, you know, by by being maybe uh put in the spotlight of being unethical, you're lying, whatever. So she had that sort of moment of honesty.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's Nicole Nicole Hannah Jones. Yeah, yeah, and you know she won a Pulitzer Prize for that garbage.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, it's pure trash, pure trash. And it it's just funny, like I said, that she that she admitted, she said, no, no, this is not history, it's narrative, it's a new retelling of the slave narrative, yada yada yada. So which is to say it's propaganda, deception lies in propaganda. Yeah, she's um so how you can win a Pulitzer for prop for admitted propaganda is really really reveals what the Pulitzer group is about, by the way.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and there's a quote that says pretty much what you just said here. She says um uh the New York Times magazine, New York Times uh writers uh says she aims to reframe the country's histor history by placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of the United States national narrative.

SPEAKER_09

Um I think the big thing the big context that's that's missed. I I don't want to, I mean, I'm not trying to be all dark and every we have much to celebrate. There's no question about that.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Um, but I think you know, you're right, we have to equip people with the truth to help them uh fight what's going on. People have to realize there's a deliberate steering uh of the narrative. But the the biggest thing uh I think is at the core, uh sort of the heart of the context of slavery and America's history in connection with that, uh is glossing over the reality of slavery as a worldwide culture. America is painted as some sort of unique thing happening uh in the fact that it had slaves and this sort of thing. It it's quite the opposite. Slavery was the norm, slavery was world culture for hundreds and hundreds of years, starting in in uh Africa and with the uh Muslims in the Middle East, and America went in a different direction from what was the world culture. So it's not like America instituted something. America's history is in fact a history of going against what had been accepted, and because of uh the Christian, the abolitionists, the Quakers, uh the strong gospel influence uh began to break down the notions of slavery worldwide. And America followed that path. America ran contrary to thousands of years of human history. Uh, and as probably those who listen to Chris Ann very well know, one of the thought processes of the drafters of the Constitution as they were speaking, uh, was to devise the Constitution in such a way to ultimately end slavery. They sincerely believe they were remember, they're entangled in a world culture that had been the culture that everybody simply accepted from as far back as as history could remember. Uh, and and they were at great pains of how do we get out of this? And they they didn't quite know uh how they couldn't just make it end in an instant, or they didn't know how you could possibly do that. And they thought the best way uh was to sunset the importation of slaves into America. They said we would we would bleed the institution's life source. If we cut off the importation of slaves, make that illegal, uh, which they included in the Constitution, the sunset uh of slavery after 20 years, then they said we we will starve the beast and slavery will eventually end. So they set us on a path. This is why the whole Juneteenth nonsense folks should be celebrating the Constitution and celebrating America and celebrating the founders for the path that they set us upon intentionally uh to ultimately get us out of slavery. And you know, I I think ripping it out of that context uh for the purpose of dividing people is is uh is is really despicable, just just to be frank.

SPEAKER_11

Wow. You know, it makes me it makes me think of something odd, forgive me if this is a tenuous link, but um the left is for you know, in my youth when I was hanging around leftists, they would frequently say that that the Bible and Jesus were somehow sexist. It was a sexist institution. But if you look at the history of who Christ was, um he was actually uh he was elevating women throughout his ministry. And you know, it's even said that you know Mary Magdalene was like the uh was a disciple and and a confidant to him. So so even though if you look at it in the in the true context of history, uh women were property at that time, he was elevating them, but they want to look past that and they want to label Christianity as well. In the same regard, the United States should be con uh should be celebrated as the leaders away from slavery, but rather we're we're being told to self-flog ourselves for for our sins and and and how you know I mean I know I'm being redundant here, but I see a correlation here of how the evil ones like to how like to twist the truth and and feed us lies.

SPEAKER_09

You're exactly right. No, and I I don't I I you're right. It is a parallel, there's there's absolutely parallel uh in in those two two things where it's iters the reality in a completely opposite direction. And on on that note, I give you a great resource for what you were just taught referring to. Uh every believer should go and find a book called How Christianity Changed the World. And there is a chapter devoted to exactly what you're what you were just referring to, uh, among many other things. It it is a is probably at the very top list of uh of my greatest books of all time. Listen, a fantastic resource, how Christianity changed the world. If you are b a believer, you should own that book, you should read that book. And you talk about being equipped to rebut some of this nonsense.

SPEAKER_11

Um and and once again to echo one of your points, it's about division. You know, if you you you know you you were making a point about the division of races, but they're also trying to divide us by uh gender, uh, by sexual preference, uh, by religion. Uh anything that they can find to fracture us. That's their that's that's their key to to to conquest is to fracture us, right?

SPEAKER_09

Well it it it goes back, you gotta go back to the Hegelian Marxist roots, you know, and you you think back to uh Marx uh uh Marx who was an anarchist, right, in in a in the pure sense of uh no professional state, right? Anarchy means no professional state. Well, in Marx Marx version and Marx view of uh the anarchism that he believed in, uh, he said basically, you know, our little our little communes of living together and growing our food, they're not going to be powerful enough to to get rid of the state. Uh so in his twisted formulation, he said, Well, we need to raise up an all powerful state that's capable of crushing the current social order, and then we'll eventually get to the point where you know nobody will want a state. Uh of course, Lenin. Swift in and says, no, no, we'll we'll stop at the intermediate step, the totalitarian state that just makes everybody obey. We'll we'll just stick with that. We won't get to the part where we don't need a state at all. But what was that current world order that Marx talked about crushing? Well, primarily it was Christianity, right? Overturn everything that you can think of that Christianity teaches. Even Nietzsche, the the uh celebrated atheist, said the morality that we've enjoyed in the Western world is a Christian morality, and once that is gone, there will be no intrinsic value to human life, and we'll have to create a new morality. So they all recognize that this is a this is really a a Christian um the legacy, the moral legacy of uh Christian teaching is what we have. So it's no surprise. Everything that they do attacks, you know, goodness and virtue and righteousness, that those things that were are right and and moral uh and good for liberty, good for people, good for human beings, supportive of life, all of that, the family, those are things they want to attack because it goes to their root goal of destroying the current social order. And obviously, then we know the other half of it was the so-called bourgeois. By the way, all the architects of Marxism were bourgeois themselves, uh, but they want to uh destroy the unapproved rich people so they can consolidate all the wealth into their hands and then they can control people. So you destroy the moral and social links of a society, you take away their power through economics to make their own decisions in their own lives, and then you're able to control that populace. So that's what's going on. None of this is about black lives mattering, none of this is about women's rights or supporting women or minority. We love this group, we love that group, we want to protect this group, that group. All of that is theater. All of these are useful idiots that they use for the purposes of overthrowing the current world order, the current system, uh, at which America and its values are the last impediment. Uh, and so that's that's the whole point of all this. So people shouldn't get distracted uh by the sort of surface, surface arguments uh and the identity politics is really not about identity politics. It's just like you said, finding any excuse and any opportunity to wreak havoc and destruction in order to divide, weaken, destroy, so that they can take over and dominate their fellow human beings. And you every day, every day we're gonna be able to do that. So to steer back from the darkness, what what is the point of all that? What does that have to do with independence? It's because the ideal, this republic and the ideals that it represents and the ideals upon which it is founded is the last impediment to that on this planet. And that's what we celebrate today. That as much uh opposition as we face, as much turmoil as we see around us, as much nonsense and attack that's coming on from these people, guess what? They have not totally annihilated these principles. They have not totally annihilated patriots who still hold to these principles, they have not totally annihilated people willing to stand, to speak, to fight, to resist, and make sure that these principles continue so that so that our fellow men are not dragged off into an absolute black hole of slavery and domination by this elite cabal. That's what we celebrate today. That path that we were put upon to be the last bastion of freedom on this planet. And we, as uh, as the Bible says, as Esther was told, we have been brought into the kingdom for such a time as this. And I and I would close that thought by saying they are racking up a tremendous amount of losses. They continue to lose, their plans continue to fail. Yes, they're doing damage, yes, people really suffer from uh what they do. But the overall arc, the overall story, and you listen to them complain, you listen to their what, for instance, Gavin Newsom says about uh how they're losing and and how they're so so pissed off uh because they're losing. They are losing. We are winning. The the overall arc uh is them piling up losses. Now, in that, that's gonna make them desperate, desperate, that's gonna make them dangerous. We have to know how to keep ourselves safe, but we have to not be scared, we have to not be backed off, continue to speak truth, continue to stand, no matter what they want to censor, no matter what they want to mudsling at you, call you names, whatever they want to do, we're gonna continue to speak, we're gonna continue to stand, we're gonna continue to equip people to fight this false narrative life. And yes, we're gonna celebrate our independence in July, not in June. Happy birthday, America.

SPEAKER_03

Awesome. Amen, brother. Love it. Uh 100%. And yeah, they are they are losing, and they are getting panicked, and they are dangerous when they're back in the corn, just like a rat. We have these rats pinned back there. But you know, I was telling uh uh your wife uh Christine earlier about you know the the the the flame of liberty and how you guys are passing that flame of liberty to us too, you know, smaller shows all around um that are are growing shows. You know, the if it wasn't for you guys doing this stuff, we would not be here doing this too. Um it's it's the flame that you guys have that we're picking up a small torch now and and we're trying to uh get that flame out there too.

SPEAKER_09

You know, we have to guard that. We have to guard that mentality. I I get really irritated uh when I see conservatives attacking each other and eating their own. Uh we have to support one another. And we can't you know there are a lot of people. Uh my friend Rob from Breathe from the Breathe Easy app. Uh he he likes to uh use the term patriots, P-A-Y. Uh there are a lot of patriots that come into this movement trying to build their own little kingdoms, trying to have their little camp. Yeah, uh, you know, and just poo-pooing everything. We we work with so many people, we promote so many people for nothing. Um, you know, you're gonna be you'll be able to come to ChrisDanholm.com and find uh the the Dangerous Info podcast. Uh why? Because we're charging Jesse to be on there? No. Because we believe in this message, we share this message, and we want to do what we can do to help folks, uh, because not building our about building our kingdom and making a bunch of money and all this sort of stuff. So I know people gotta make money. You gotta pay the bills. But when when we start cutting one another's throats just to guard our little piece of the pie, that's not helping liberty. That's not helping anybody.

SPEAKER_08

Right.

SPEAKER_09

So we're all about carrying. That's about as carnal as it gets. Absolutely. And and that's that makes us weaker, not stronger.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, well thank thanks for yeah, I mean, thanks for you know, you guys coming on the show, not not once, but twice. I mean, we're small time and you guys have uh have aligned yourself with us and and you're helping us grow by coming on our show. So you're really you're putting your money where your mouth is, and everything where you're saying everything you're saying here is very accurate. We see your actions because you're not getting anything. We're not paying you to be on the show. You're just doing this out of out of the respect of the the met the message. And man, we can't thank you enough. I think you're cool, dude.

SPEAKER_03

Thanks, JC. Yeah, we feel the same about you guys. And you know, uh you have some great shirts over there at godgunsliberty.com. I mean, you you've been putting those shirts out. I wear them all the time, and I just want to you know point people there. Go get some of those liberty shirts, you guys. They're great conversation starters. Godgunsliberty.com.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, and I'm gonna try to be I'm gonna try to devote more time to it. I'm gonna be working toward that this week. We're gonna take a little vacation, uh, try to try to hide and get away for a little bit, take a breather. Yeah. And uh I think I'm gonna try to spend some time to see some new stuff up there and just just uh get that out. So yeah, appreciate that. Godgunsliberty.com.

SPEAKER_03

Well, excellent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

It's another avenue to try to share the you know, the message. There, I mean, there are a lot of good uh t-shirt uh businesses out there, people making good stuff. I l I love a lot of a lot of the folks that I see. So it's just our you know, just the little spot that I have to try to uh you know put another drop in the bucket, make make a difference. So uh like I said, we've we believe in the Patriot family. Uh it's not one person. I I'm you know, I have a messiah. I don't need another messiah. I'm not looking for a president to save me. I'm not looking for some conservative leader uh to save me. I have a messiah. Uh but I think we have to do this as a body. Uh as our pastor says, do what God called you to do, nothing more, nothing less, nothing else. So everybody has to find their thing and do that thing. So uh as far as I what we do, Chris Ann Hall, JC Hall, we're not in competition with anybody. We're simply doing what we believe we were called to do, and that's it. And so, you know, if if people like it and you want to grab a hold of it, go for it. Fine. If you like somebody else, do that, you know, whatever. Uh if you like other t-shirts better than mine, good. Some of them I do too. Um but you know, yeah, but I appreciate that. Godgunsliberty.com, we got that going on, and then the unsung heroes project uh dot com. I think you you share some of that stuff. Yeah. Um, that's another thing we're gonna try. I'm trying to get some more people to uh uh to pitch in and and help put the stuff together. There are so many biographies and stories uh, you know, out there. I don't know if you've shared James Armistead Lafayette. That's one of my favorites.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I've I got him on the computer right now. I'm looking at it.

SPEAKER_09

Man, I think about that. You know, when you talk about when you hear this 1619 narrative and the divisive narrative of trying to uh put black Americans on this side and and uh others on that side, and we're and we gotta have different independence holidays and all this nonsense. I think about James Armistead Lafayette uh and and got to looking at his story about being a spy under a Washington spying on corn Cornwallis and uh man, it's it's incredible to think about the role he played that you could legitimately say, had it not been for this singular black patriot, there wouldn't even be an American. I mean, he his intelligence and the role he played uh practically made what is known as the decisive victory of the American Revolution, the victory at Yorktown.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

Uh you could practically lay on the shoulders of a single black patriot. It's just astounding, and there's so many histories like that that fly in the face of America being racist from its roots, and you know, this is this America is not for black people, and all that sort of garbage. It's nonsense. Had it not been for the great black patriots that played pivotal roles in American history that that that God blessed us with for those individuals to be amongst us, we would not be here today.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09

And so this 1619 narrative really is an affront to their legacy. Any anybody, any black American who promotes that nonsense to the detriment of the legacy of these people should be ashamed of themselves.

SPEAKER_03

For his accomplishments and for his efforts for what he did, put his life on the line for this country. Our education system does not even celebrate this guy.

SPEAKER_09

No.

SPEAKER_03

No, it's it's it's we'll celebrate him here. James Armistead Lafayette. Yep.

SPEAKER_11

Absolutely. I'm looking at I'm looking at a quote from John Jay, and it says, uh, to contend for our own liberty and to deny that blessing to others involves an inconsistency not to be excused. So one of our founding fathers is talking very clearly right there about uh essentially slavery of any kind, right? John Jay was a very strong abolitionist. So we're sold this idea that a bunch of rich slave owners created this country. No, it's not true. There was there's all kinds of people that were believing in freedom of across the board. They were not, it wasn't selective freedom.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, John Jay was one along with Alexander Hamilton uh and a couple of others that that uh founded uh the New York School, uh, what's known as the New York School, and the um uh I forget the the specific name of there's abolitionist society uh in New York, but they would uh take uh children of slaves and put them in the school, educate them for free, give them an education to to uh to help you know lift lift them, give give them the foundation so that they could uh succeed uh in in society. So um people you see in all these things, everybody loves to focus on uh the the contradiction that is Thomas Jefferson. He's always the poster boy. They don't don't want to talk about John Jay or Alexander Hamlet or any of the rest, they don't talk about this other side. Yeah. And as I said, uh people, human beings, uh are living contradictions. So you can look at Thomas Jefferson. Thomas Jefferson made some of the same expressions, the abolitionist sentiments, uh that you hear from Jay and and the rest, uh, but yet, you know, you point to Jefferson and uh Monticello Monticello, as they say now, uh, at his enterprise with the slaves, and it's a complex thing. And so, yeah, Jefferson to some extent is a contradiction. But even if you look in that story, uh they also leave out the profit sharing uh that Jefferson had with some of the so-called slaves in that enterprise, um, and and many other things that contradict their narrative as well as contradict uh Thomas Jefferson being a pure abolitionist, you know. So, yeah, he's a contradiction, but uh it's still not as clear-cut as they make it out to be. All this raving, racist, rapist of Sally, the slave, etc. Uh and as I said at the beginning, it throws out the context of all of these men being absolutely mired and entangled in a world, thousand-plus-year-old world culture, uh, that they had uh a challenge of conceiving uh how to extricate themselves from this issue. But it doesn't mean that they were insincere in their desire to do so. Uh, and they did do something about it. And John John Jay, you know, you can see that example, and he and others of of clear, I mean, practical hands-on touching individual uh lives of slaves and former slaves in in a very practical way. Uh and then Jefferson and the rest of the drafters um stating no, they didn't wave a magic wand in slavery, uh, but but they made very clear their intent in their writings, if we cut off the lifeblood of slavery, which is the internet the importation of slaves uh from abroad, then then we'll eventually kill this thing. They they they weren't able to foresee the future to the extent to see uh the shortcomings perhaps of that plan or the difficulties that it would face or what would ultimately get we'd get to in the Civil War, uh, you know, on the on the foundation or the pretense of that. Uh so no, they they weren't prophets in that sense. Uh, but I believe their intention was sincere, uh, that their desire was sincere to see in slavery. I don't think everything they wrote uh they were lying. Why why would you write to close friends in personal letters and say all these things? And and all those are lies, all the 16, 19 sycophants and acolytes, oh, they were lying, blah, blah, blah. Why would why would George Washington craft uh such a letter where where you hear him, you know, grief grieving, I mean, just just in turmoil about wanting to figure out how do we how do we get out of this, how do we get rid of this? Why would he write such a letter to to craft a deception for posterity to make people uh believe something that wasn't true about him? I mean, it makes no sense. So it it it's utter garbage, uh, this narrative that's out there. These men were sincere in their desire. Were they perfect? Did they carry out uh those intentions in a way that looking back in history, you know, we we oh uh, you know, we can find no fault? No. No, they were imperfect people just like we are. Uh but to deny the intention and to and to craft some neat little they were all racist and they want to enslave every black person on the planet is is utter fabrication and ignores history.

SPEAKER_03

Wow, you brought a whole lot there. A lot, a lot of uh holes you filled right in there, JC, with uh this whole you know, false history and the the the way the history that they wanted to present to us. I'm glad you shot all the holes into it. Uh uh.

SPEAKER_09

Let me say this to add a point to that. Uh we should neither deny the evils and reality of slavery as it happened in our history any more than we should whitewash uh and turn it into this this you know, everybody was a racist and the founding was racist and and you know make up these false intentions and deny everything that they wrote as false. Either of those is a mistake. Uh slavery was evil, slavery happened, many of those men owned slaves, however, there's another side to it, and they struggled uh to to get out of that. But the gift that they gave us was this republic and its constitution to set us on a path that would ultimately achieve the ideals that stated in the direct in the Declaration of Independence, that all men are created equal. And here we are. That's what we should celebrate today. This every black American complaining about how racist America is has freedom of speech to do that because of the path that those men set us upon, so that those men are now walking around free and complaining about the very men that built the foundation of their freedom.

SPEAKER_11

When you look at the complexity of how in integrated slavery has been since the dawn of man, and how they were trying to make moves away from it, they truly were revolutionaries. Because I mean, if you if you're going to be honest and look at it in the context of history, nobody was making these moves before. Um, since you brought up Jefferson, I just I'm looking at a quote here, and and it totally rings true to what you were just saying about how they tried to set the system up to dismantle it. And this is from Jefferson. I know he's a contradiction, but it says the equal rights of man and the happiness of every individual are now acknowledged to be the only legitimate objects of government. Yes.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, if you if you uh if you dig around, uh you can find uh what was the original draft, uh, you know, where it talks about all men are created equal, endowed by their creator, certain equal rights, that sort of thing. Uh Jefferson in the original draft was even more pointed uh in that writing and made it very clear that he was specifically talking about slaves when he crafted that, that yes, they're equal. And then he was pressured. Remember the whole ratification debates and the whole process, a portion of that uh was a negotiation with the slave-holding state uh by these men, by the other state representatives. And so Jefferson was pressured, and that the preamble that was ultimately changed and toned down, uh, but the original reveals his intent, reveals what he sincerely believed. Uh, but their perspective was look, if we don't, if we don't successfully create uh a unified union and confederation in these states, then we're gonna have states among us that are against us and will side with the British and we'll be destroyed, we'll be eaten up, this will not be successful. And then what hope do you have of getting rid of slavery? You have no hope of getting rid of slavery because we've fought the British for dozens and dozens and dozens of years who forced slavery upon us, even when it was tried, well, even when states or colonies tried to outlaw. You look at 1774, I think was New Hampshire. Uh, you look in their declaration of outlawing the importation of slaves in 1774. And and the British would come against these colonies over and over again and force slavery upon them. So they've understood very well. Number one, if we don't unite, uh then then we're not gonna survive. Number two, there'll be no way we get rid of slavery for anybody, ever. Uh, so people people point and criticize uh at, you know, well, they they should have just ended it right there and bit the bullet and whatever. Well, maybe they in hindsight, maybe they should. Maybe it was worth the fight. We don't know. But they thought the best way to do it, as I said, was to drain the lifeblood of the slave culture by outlawing the importation uh of slaves, letting that sunset. And they made that negotiation. Okay, we'll give you twenty years. They made that negotiation with these slave holding states and Jefferson toned down this preamble so that the union would survive so that they would have any hope, any hope in the future of getting rid of slavery. So completely the opposite of the 1619 narrative. Wow.

SPEAKER_03

That is awesome. That is awesome, JC. Man, we just want to thank you so much for bringing all this good liberty heat. Uh, this is what people needed to hear. This is the show that I wanted to put together. And um, man, you brought a lot of it right there, brother. I I I really appreciate it.

SPEAKER_09

Um just have to keep keep the torch burning and keep telling the truth, whether they like it or not.

SPEAKER_03

That's what we're gonna do. We're not gonna, we're not afraid, we're not backing down. All right, you guys, that was JC Hall and JC. Uh go to Chrisanne Hall.com and libertyforsociety.com. And also you guys have the noncompliant two movie. I believe it uh, you know, the sheriff, it's uh what October release date, I believe you guys have. I can't wait. Um, I can't wait. Uh the noncompliant movie one, the original, awesome. What is that, noncompliant movie.com? Is that where we see that?

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, noncompliant movie.com.

SPEAKER_03

Excellent. Well, hey, JC, I'm glad you came to uh be a part of our Independence Day Extravaganza show today. Uh like that one, a grievance worldview is a wholly incompatible with the gospel worldview.

SPEAKER_09

Yeah, that hit me today, man. Uh or you or when I was in church uh Sunday morning and uh you know I I remember some some song was playing and and just about the goodness of God and the blessings of God and and you know, just how uh we're delivered through the gospel, and that that just struck me right there in that service that you you know what, uh if if you're a believer, man, you you you will be thankful and and and full of joy uh about the goodness of God and the blessings in your life. So this walking around this grievance worldview of of of you know hating your neighbor and subjugating your neighbor and getting revenge for the sins of the past and all this sort of stuff. That's an anti-gospel worldview. And so those those two mindsets are completely incompatible. So when I see all these churches flip to this social justice nonsense, that is anti-gospel. It depends to people as being oh compassionate, this is loving your neighbor, and we have to care for the oppressed, and so therefore we have to fight racism. Well, if if the social justice message was about fighting racism, then I'd be all for it. But that's not what it is, and and it is very anti-gospel. So those two things are completely incompatible. So any church, uh any church that that's their program, and they're trying to pitch to you that nonsense and say it's the gospel, they're pitching a false gospel.

SPEAKER_03

Amen. Yep, and we see it, we hear it. So, yep. Awesome. Well, all right, JC. Well, again, thank you so much for being here. It's been a uh a great, enlightening uh interview here with you. Uh you brought a lot of knowledge here for the people to think about. And uh it's it's excellent.

SPEAKER_09

Thanks for bringing the truth in the fire. We really appreciate it. Yes, God bless you, gentlemen.

SPEAKER_03

You too, brother JC. Take care and you have the rest of the uh Independence Day, and uh, hopefully you get some barbecue in there.

SPEAKER_09

Yes, sir. We'll do.

SPEAKER_03

All right, brother. Be safe and uh long live Liberty, brother. Talk to you soon. All right, you guys, there he goes, JC Hall. Wow, that was great. Uh Chrisanne Hall.com, Liberty for Society.com. And don't forget to check out his church, you guys. Godgunsliberty.com. And I can't wait for that movie to come out, Outcast, the Not Compliant 2. Yep. Man, that's gonna be great. So awesome.

SPEAKER_11

So knowledgeable. What a powerhouse team they are.

SPEAKER_03

Well, that Unsung Heroes thing that on the on the uh Unsung Heroes, that is awesome. That's where I get all this uh information from about the the black Patriots.

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Awesome.

SPEAKER_03

I love it. So all right, you guys, listen up. Uh we have hit our end. We have to do the Patriot of the Week for the month of July. And Outcast, I think you have something for that, correct?

SPEAKER_11

Well, when you uh presented it earlier, I was like, who are we gonna pick for Patriot of the Week? And uh this was a real timely one because I can't get over how much this person has gifted us in the past year or two with this whole scandemic. And uh I uh nominated and you accepted uh Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, rest in peace.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, what a what a truly uh if you want to say the word hero, that's the guy that he's a true hero uh for what he was able to get done here in the last couple of years and and bring to the world, uh open our eyes to what he had found and and uh you know put us on a pursuit, you know, not just talking just me and you and I, but the truth. He went against the grain, the pharma grain, the the you know, the the mainstream media grain. He went against all that.

SPEAKER_11

And we we can't we can't even we can't even I I don't know how we'd even quantify how many lives he saved. I know that you and I personally had saved on our phone the Zelenko protocol for COVID.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11

And when one of our friends or family contacted us and said, What do I do? I got COVID, we sent him that Zelenko protocol. We had it, we had an answer because of him. We had some place to send people. And that doesn't even account for the fact that when he spoke, I mean, he spoke so clearly and calmly and explained how there is a cabal who hates us and they have a depopulation plan and they are devolved pagans. They are not like us. I mean, he he just spoke so so concisely and clearly, and I I it was he was a breath of fresh air every time he spoke. Every time I watched the podcast with him, I went away feeling like I had a better understanding of what's going on around us.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, for sure. You know, we played a couple of uh of his clips and his warning warnings and everything on the show, and we dissects some of those on a few different shows in the past. But uh yeah, that's that's that's a true current patriot uh for Jul July, Vladimir Zelenko. Man, what a good guy, what a loss. And he was only 48, 49 years old, man.

SPEAKER_11

He looked older than that. I'm surprised he was that young.

SPEAKER_03

But yeah, um he came from Ukraine and all that, and um I'm glad he got over here.

SPEAKER_11

Yeah, so what an intelligent guy, what a truth speaker. I mean, he uh it it's incredible what what he was the fire that he was bringing, he did not care what anybody thought he was gonna bring it. He I he in one of the interviews I saw with him, he you know, he felt very strongly that they were coming for him. Yeah. If on some level they were gonna take him out.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he had talked about that. So oh man, yep. That's their Patriot of the week right there. Dr. Vladimir Zelenko, rest in peace, brother. All right, so what else do we have? Uh you know, this this was a packed show. Hopefully it turned out the way that we wanted it to. We got the points across. I know we had a little bit of technical stuff going on there, and it the format's a little bit different, but I think we're on to something good here, brother. I think uh you know that we brought the heat on this, and uh um oh, the last thing I want to do before we go, I had to read this. Now, I the Christine touched on it earlier, right? Check this out, though. This is a letter from uh John Adams to Abigail Adams on July 3rd, 1776. And he writes about the second day of July. And that was our founding right there. It says, But the day is past. The second day of July, 1776 will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated, now listen to this, by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival. And here we go. It ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty. It ought to be solemnized, solemnized with pomp and parade, with shoes, games, sports, guns, bells, bonfires, and illuminations from one end of this continent to the other from this time forward and forevermore.

SPEAKER_11

Wow. That's awesome. Yes. So I I got I got a last quote for you, too, that kind of ties right in from Jane Matt James Madison. Okay. The future and success of America is not in the Constitution, but in the laws of God upon which the Constitution is founded. Wow. Doesn't that tie right in what you just said, though?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, that's good. Dang. All right. Well, that's perfect. That's how this is supposed to end up, and that's how it's supposed to be. Right? Right. Yeah. All right. Well, I hope everybody enjoyed the show today. Outcast, give them something for the week. Uh, you know, something that you had been thinking about, or off the top of your head is just fine with me, brother.

SPEAKER_11

So something that was popping in my head listening to all of our great guests today. Um, you know, there's apparently there's a recurring history of them trying to divide us, right? Trying to bury our history and sell us the sell us this um false information that makes us feel like we're we're not a united nation of people that uh under one flag under one, you know, under one system. We are just uh a bunch of different sub uh sub-genres, yeah, and we're meant to just be at odds with one another. And they do that obviously, as we said earlier, because they want to keep us divided to to conquer us. Now, the most contradictory thing that you can you can do um to their plan is to follow uh the God of Israel. And uh and Lord God Almighty, Yahweh Yeshua, whatever you want to call him, Abba Father, the number one command when Jesus preached was to love one another. Um, first John 4, 7, 8 says, Beloved, let us love one another for lovers of God, and anyone who knoweth is born of God and knoweth God. He that loveth not, knoweth not God, for God is love. The one most single radical thing that you can do is love your brothers and sisters, no matter how different they are from you, with that radical, as Pastor Eric called it, radical agape love. Uh pray for it, ask for it, view people differently as your brothers and sisters. And I'm telling you, we can bring this corruption down. They need us to hate one another for their plan to work. And if we convey love, if we feel real love and we act out real love, then we can stop them.

SPEAKER_03

Amen. And that's something everybody can work on too. We have to work on that, right?

SPEAKER_11

You have to. I mean, it's easy. I mean, it's it's carnal. The easy thing to do is to see, you know, look at your neighbor and go, just look at that idiot over there. Look at how he puts his trash out. I can't stand that guy. Oh, I can see what that guy he leaned that big piece of board against my fence. I want to kick his ass, right? That's what that's what we think like, right? But to but to try and ask God to help you see people through his loving eyes is a game changer. It'll change everything that you do. You will you'll be motivated by different things than what and what they do is they play on our carnal. We're being called to to a higher calling to reject the carnal, to reject our natural instincts, go against that. And and the hardest thing to do is love. But once you unleash its power, you are in a position where you're unstoppable. And that love, and then it's a law of attraction. You put that love out in into the world, and then suddenly you keep finding more and more people who love on you back, and you're like, none of their narratives work when you find find love for your fellow man. It just doesn't, the they're all their precepts don't work. Right, I'm not here.

SPEAKER_03

No, that's good. I'm not care. Sorry. That's good, man. That's a perfect way to end the show. You know, get to thinking about that kind of stuff, you guys. And um, like I said, that's a good that's a great way to end this uh Independence Day extravaganza show.

SPEAKER_11

Um, I really love your fellow Americans, yeah, no matter how different they are.

SPEAKER_03

Exactly. Well, I want to thank to say thanks to all of our guests. We have Katie, good patriot, up in the beginning. We had Kate Daly up on the mountain. We had Kate Cristan Hall. Thank you, Christine, uh, and and JC Hall to finish us all out. So and you, Outcast, thanks for uh being supportive of this idea that I got here with the uh you know with this this type of a show. And um hopefully the people find it enjoyable too and and and and knowledgeable, right? Uh there's a lot of people who brought some really good stuff. And and I'm I'm I really appreciate you guys. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_11

We're just doing the best that we know how to do. We're not professional. Uh we have full-time jobs, we do this on the side. There may be some flaws, but we thank everyone who's sticking with us and listening on a regular basis, and just uh, you know, if we're meant to be doing this, it'll grow and evolve. You know, just that's right.

SPEAKER_03

That's right. So again, you guys, thanks for listening to the show. I'm Jesse James, Outcast. Thank you, brother. And as you guys go through the week, remember be bold, stay alert, don't fall for the government media complex propaganda, right? It's coming at you at every level. There's so many solutions to all of this. It's up to you to act on those solution ideas. We love you guys. Long live Liberty. Stay dangerous, my Patriot friend. Stay very dangerous.