277 "From Eden to AI" Fallen Angels, Ancient Idolatry, Humanity Modern & Tech ft. Vicki Joy Anderson, USS Liberty, Dolly Parton Moloch, Demon eyes FIFA, Patriots Frontin'

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Could the Idols of Old Be Returning, Disguised in Artificial Intelligence?

Are we witnessing the return of ancient idols disguised as cutting-edge technology? Do you sense the growing unease that A.I. is more than algorithms and code—that it carries a spiritual agenda beyond human understanding? As the world races toward a new digital utopia, are we unknowingly bowing to the same false gods that deceived humanity in ages past?

The same spirit that lured mankind to worship stones and stars now beckons us through silicon chips and neural nets.

Through years of prayer, study, and prophetic discernment, researcher and Bible teacher Vicki Joy Anderson uncovered the chilling parallels between ancient black stones, fallen angel technology, and today’s artificial intelligence revolution. This breakthrough resource reveals the hidden hand guiding humanity toward a technological tower of Babel—while offering believers scriptural wisdom, discernment, and hope. Vicki's website: https://www.vickijoyanderson.com/ 

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SPEAKER_05 0:22

Our institutions become corrupt. Our institutional agency is thinking of your rights. Welcome to the dangerous info podcast podcast. With Jesse James James and Outcast. Jesse James. Dangerous, dangerous, dangerous. Stay blessed, stay battle, battle.

SPEAKER_01 1:14

I burned this evil flag on the 4th of July in remembrance of my 34 brothers captured in my arms and were slaughtered by Israel June 8th, 1957. I also call out all the Zionists, Congress, senators. You're supposed to fight for this country, not Israel. So you should be voted out on all of you. Thomas Massey for President, 2028.

SPEAKER_08 1:46

If you've been paying attention, and I'm sure you have been, artificial intelligence is being thwarted upon us as they begin to usher in the transhumanism on the Internet of Things. But fear not. We are here to help you stay the course during this dystopian transition. Just stay human, brothers and sisters. Remember. Stay human. This is the Danger Simple Podcast Podcast. The Jesse James and Brother Outcast.

SPEAKER_02 2:56

Yes, we're both parties, both sides of the uniparty system have been captured by an outside intelligence. Tonight we have a big show, you guys. Remember this crisis king, but tonight we have episode 277 Outcast. That's right, Vicky Joy Anderson is coming back. We're talking about Eden to AI. How fallen angels and ancient idolatry are enslaving human man humankind through modern technology. It's gonna be a big show tonight, brother. It is uh July 6th, we have a brand new month. July 6th, 2026, brother. And uh look, we're right here in the middle of the year. I mean, I just can't believe how fast these things are going, you guys. It's just so crazy. Uh, we're gonna be talking about a lot of different things tonight, a lot of current events, and at the 8 o'clock hour, about an hour from now, we have our our our guest Vicky Joy joining us tonight. She's been a busy one lately, outcast. She's been doing the podcast circuit, she's been all over with a brand new book, and uh, you know, behind the scenes, we've been talking for quite a while, trying to line everything up, and tonight is the night. Uh, just just want to let you guys know, next week, our show's gonna be on Tuesday night, not Monday, alright? So uh mark that down. I'll make sure to to make some other uh you know graphics or something like that as a reminder. But next week, our show is on Tuesday, eight days from tonight. Brother Outcast, what's going on?

SPEAKER_04 4:25

Good to be here. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_02 4:28

You know, it is Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 4:30

No, sorry. I was just gonna say things have been wild, but I'm I'm here. I'm good.

SPEAKER_02 4:34

You know, it's crazy. I'm I'm trying some different headphones. Uh, I don't know what it sounds like on your end where everybody else out there in the in the chat rooms and everything. To me, it sounds completely different, completely crazy. I'm just trying these out. These are some high-end uh headphones. They might not do the job for me on this. Uh, I might have to go with my other ones just like the ones you're wearing because I am comfortable with those. I like those a lot, the uh over-the-ear ones, but I tell you what, they get hot, and uh I've got a fan sitting over here blowing on me right now, but not always does it stay, you know, it's gets it's warm in this room, is what I'm saying. So, hey, what's going on, everybody? I see you guys all filing in in the chat rooms. Welcome, welcome. Um good to have you guys here. We have uh quite a bit of things to go over, Outcast, and uh we've been going back and forth in our uh Instagram inbox, and just there's a lot of craziness, is what I'm saying. The craziness, lack of crazy never ends. But at the very front, did you see that guy uh talk about he was burning a Star of David little Star of David flag? All right, that's Phil Turney. Uh, you for those of you guys not familiar with Phil Turney, he was uh on uh USS Liberty in 1967, and uh they they got uh bombed. Our own American ship running our flag. Uh it got bombed by some uh Israeli uh military, and it all went hush-hush. They tried sinking that ship, they blew major holes in it, uh, a big 40-foot diameter hole. Uh they killed a bunch of our men, almost 30 men, and uh, you know, they've been sworn to secrecy and they've swept it all under the rug, and the government never wanted you to know about it. Uh, it's been going on for a long time. I I first heard about that USS Liberty, man, I want to say back in 2011, 12, somewhere, when I was listening to either like like John B. Wells from Caravan to Midnight, or uh maybe it was uh oh uh uh James Corbett report. It could have been David Icke. It was something a long time. It could have been Alex Jones show way back then in InfoWars. But uh, you know, just bringing back up to the top. That was June 8th, 1967. And I want to keep I want to keep next year, I want to keep that uh on top of mind. Uh just because we need to. Our government cover-up uh of so many things, like I said in the opening there, our our leaders, they've been captured. And I don't call them leaders, I'll cast. I call the uh, you know, whatever they are. Where we think we vote for these these people, but uh we're not voting for anybody. They're being pre-selected. Uh, but that but but they're all captured by some outside intelligence. And uh it's crazy. Hick town, what's going on? Music lovers in the house tonight. I see Ms. Melody over there. You guys are all hanging out and rumble. Uh bunch of people over in uh the the YouTube. I see uh let me see Amber Dawn's going on there. They're having their own party outcast, their own little good time out there. So uh yeah, look, go ahead uh with with some some stuff that you're thinking about. I'm gonna comb through a few of these.

SPEAKER_04 7:28

Okay, no, I was just gonna say that um that that that wasn't a star of David, that was a star of Rem fam, first of all.

SPEAKER_02 7:36

That's right, that's right. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 7:38

Um King David never flew that flag in battle. Maybe it may have been introduced during Solomon's lifetime, his son, because his Solomon had, I don't know, 700 wives or something. Imagine that. Uh, and many of them were from pagan religions.

SPEAKER_02 7:51

Sounds like a nightmare to me. Sorry, sorry.

SPEAKER_04 7:54

I mean, being married for anybody's tough, uh, you know, but having uh 700, wow, that's a lot. And um, and subsequently he uh somewhat abandoned. Well, I should I should say he started amalgamating all the religions together, I guess, in his mind. I mean, he he was a wise man, but he he brought in all this um um a lot of stu stuff into the religion that wasn't supposed to be there, probably you know, most likely from his wives um onto the onto the uh the bombing of the ship. Those guys underwent um it was artillery fire that went on and on and on. They were can you imagine being on a giant ship made of metal being rattled with gunfire and bombing? I mean, the way that that steel would ring, uh the fact that these guys that these guys don't have uh PTSD like nothing else is amazing. It probably does on some level. But uh you'll never forget an experience like that where you are just completely a sitting duck. Yeah, they had the American flag flying high um and they were identifying themselves. Uh now something that kind of gets overlooked about this a little bit is if you look into it deeply, they were a reconnaissance or a spy ship. They were a they had listening equipment on that ship. Yes. But the question is, what was Israel so afraid of being listened in on? If they're taking money from us, well if we're if we're if we're if they exist because of us, I uh you know, and then we know that Kennedy didn't want them to have a nuke. He thought that was the worst idea in the world, and Kennedy was killed for that idea, probably. Uh for entertainment purposes only, I'll say that. Um allegedly. But I mean there's some yeah, allegedly, in my opinion, right? And the other part of this too is I mean, what were they trying to they were trying to what pass this off on Egypt or something, weren't they?

SPEAKER_02 9:34

Didn't they try to weren't they trying to go to thinking that well the whole thing was uh it was supposed to be a false flag because that ship was supposed to sink. Okay, so what they needed was uh something like uh, you know, like like every other false flag they do to get us into war, this was going to be their false flag. Uh there was another ship that they were gonna use, but it didn't have the name USS Liberty. It was something else, and they knew it wasn't a splashy enough name to get in the headlines here in America, so they said we're gonna go for this one instead, because there's two ships doing the same reconnaissance intelligence kind of, you know, that these were not war war ships. They didn't have they they weren't gunners and all that stuff. They had a couple guns just to you know take care of some security, but these were not battleships in any means, these were just recon ships and just monitoring. And um, so so like you said, yeah, they were taking uh I thought for like 25 minutes straight, they were taking just hits from helicopter or or from uh you know uh torpedoes, yeah, jets, torpedoes, and then uh when they didn't weren't able to sink the ship, they sent guys in their little speed boats to come up with with guns and uh to start shooting everything on deck, and you know, they hit so much stuff. Uh it we should save this for later, but there's just so much going on. And then uh when when that didn't work either, uh they sent helicopters to the to you know, they were gonna drop guys from helicopters onto the deck of the ship, and then they just stopped for some reason. But that was after a bunch of calls that went out, uh distress calls, and uh uh we had some fighter jets sent to the ship to help. They were recalled by McNamara, they were uh uh questioned again, then they were recalled and said, No, I don't want what did he say? Uh this is uh LBJ, Lynn Baines Johnson at the president at the time, after uh Kennedy, he was not elected. Remember, he wasn't elected, he was put in uh because of his VP. Um and the roots go deep on him, his aunt and everybody. Uh, you know, Jesse, uh what was her name? Jesse Jesse Johnson. Yeah, Jesse Johnson was her name, right? Uh or Jesse Baines, I don't know which one of them, but uh, you know, what whatever it was, there's ties to uh Zionist uh you know outfits and all this stuff.

SPEAKER_04 11:41

He has he had four at least 48 deaths attributed to him like the Clintons do. Um throughout his political career, anybody that got in his way ended up disappearing. Um if I'm not mistaken, he was honey trapped by a they they had a they I think they lured him into a prostitute situation, and then she had a son by him, and he quietly paid the son off for years, and then when the son decided he was gonna go public about him being his father, suddenly the kid dies uh in mysterious circumstances. I mean, these people are foul. They are they are just the most despicable people on the planet, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

And he was he was tied to the KKK and all this stuff, and uh you know he did so much damage to this country. Remember, he said, I'll have those N-words uh voting Democrat for the next 200 years. And uh, you know, he he's the one that came up with the uh the great the great uh the great sus uh the great society act. Was that the one? Remember that that said said the black men, you know, if you if you're gonna take this money, black families, uh then the black men can't be in the house. You gotta get out. Then we'll then you know it was those had something to do with welfare and all that stuff.

SPEAKER_04 12:46

So yeah, so it was the one of the very first big welfare programs, and it was disguised as helping people, but what it did was it uh it crippled a community, and in fact, you know, maybe which is total Marxism, you know.

SPEAKER_02 12:58

Yep, that's crazy, man. Is it good? Marxism Zionism, put it all together communist. Uh it's all the same stuff, yeah. And uh uh it's insane though. But you know, that's we're gonna have to do a whole show on that. I know we've talked about in the past and all that stuff, and we're way off track right now what we're supposed to be doing, but it's fun, right? I like all that stuff. So that I'm just gonna type in the USS Liberty uh in the headline so that it'll be out there. Um chatter that we did today. Uh, but like you were saying, yeah, that um that was supposed to be a false flag, it was supposed to go down, never heard of again, and that was supposed to be our trigger to start uh to get the United States into uh a start of like a World War III, and they were trying to blame it on the Muslims. Remember that? And basically it was just Israel trying to you know uh start it, kick it off, just like every other thing.

SPEAKER_04 13:50

If the Americans don't want to get in it, we'll make you get in it. Same same strategy on repeat over and over again.

SPEAKER_02 13:58

Yep, yep, even this even up till now, man. So many over the years, it's crazy. Um, you said something about uh Moloch. Somebody did some. I saw it somewhere in the chat. Maybe you said it. Um, but yeah, star of uh oh, right there, music lover says yes, Rem fan is Saturn uh is is Moloch. Yes, exactly, same thing. And what does Moloch like to do? He he does all this stuff, right? Um, with the one hand up, one hand down, whatever it is, the inverse up and down. Yeah, well, guess what, Outcast? There's something else that happened this weekend where that was invoked. You know, that that whole uh uh whatever Moloch does, that that up down, up and they'll know what I'm talking about. Uh Ms. Melody says, uh Nelly did an episode on Liberty a couple weeks ago. Oh, did he? Oh, he should have told us. Uh, we'll have to listen to it. Um, but that's good. I'm glad he did. It's it's still getting out there. Uh I can't tell you how how much I think I forgot about it because it ties into Vietnam and all that stuff and the McCain's and all that stuff. There's there's so much that's that's in there. But I think we need to do something for it every year. Just just do do not forget uh on these big days where we've been you know uh dragged around by the ear telling us that you guys need to get in these things. Uh and and if you don't, well, we're gonna take down one of your ships and blame somebody else. Same thing. Yep, same, same false flaggery.

SPEAKER_04 15:17

Um 9-11.

SPEAKER_02 15:19

Oh, yeah. Charlie Kirk, I mean October 7th, all this stuff. Uh, it's it's never ending, brother. It's never ending. But uh people are waking up and and and and I'm glad. I'm glad that they are. Um, all right, let's get back. Um if we go because I want to talk about this whole Moloch thing and what that thing represents, all right. So into normie news. Let's jump into some normie news. And the only reason I heard about this today is because of what I've talked about in the past. Um, Dolly Parton. Remember, I I I on here, I I I know at least one time I went hard on her, remember? I went deep on her and talking talking about how she's she's not who we think she is. Uh, she never has been, you know, and she's portrayed out there in entertainment as uh, you know, America's sweetheart or whatever the darling or whatever it was that I was saying. Uh while she popped back up in the news again today. And um I think because of of what she did over the weekend. Now, I'll play her video first. A video of her. All right. And I just want you guys who are watching to pay attention to what she's doing and what we're saying, or what she's saying, and then we'll talk about it. Outcast. I want you, I want to hear your uh your your uh your take from it. Here we go.

SPEAKER_07 16:44

Taylor and Travis, it's Dolly, and I was just told that you two are making a donation of two million dollars to my imagination library. Thank you, thank you, thank you. I'm blown away and overjoyed with that gratitude. Now it's evident that you two have made giving back a key part of your life. So, hey, when you have your firstborn, can I have it? Because that is gonna be one special baby. You know, the mission of the Dollywood Foundation.

SPEAKER_04 17:14

What'd she say? She says she wants her firstborn baby. Which, by the way, which is exactly what the Baal and Moloch worshippers did in the in the Babylonian times.

SPEAKER_02 17:26

Now, when she said that, what was she doing with her hands?

SPEAKER_04 17:30

A little uh devil horn. A little this.

SPEAKER_02 17:34

Look at her hands right here. I'm going back, I'm scrubbing this thing back and forth. Look at devil horns. I see what you're doing. You see this. I think she's doing it. All right, let me go just before it. I want to push play again.

SPEAKER_07 17:45

A key part of your life, so hey, when you have your firstborn, can I have it?

SPEAKER_02 17:51

It lines up, it lines up exactly when she makes that that you know the Moloch sign. When you have your firstborn, can I have it? She says, look at look at what she's doing when she says that. One up, one down, and then the Moloch horns go up.

SPEAKER_04 18:08

I mean, the the words alone. Okay, okay, so so the devil horns are like, okay, maybe, and then she says the words at the same time. You're like, did she just really say that?

SPEAKER_02 18:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 18:19

But it doesn't surprise me because I can't watch a single movie or television show without this stuff being in it. Without noticing, as above, so below as uh say as Andrew says.

SPEAKER_02 18:29

That's right. Yeah, right. So subtle, she's a pro. I know that's why I'm telling you. During the whole uh scandemic out there that they threw through at us, she was out there pushing, uh encouraging. She was she was on the Pfizer thing saying, You guys go better, go get your shots, get your shots, and all that stuff. Uh, she kept on doing it, and plus there's so much more. I'm telling you guys, it'll come out eventually. It'll come out. She's in her 80s or something. To me, she looks like she might be in her 40s here. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 18:59

Um, I mean, you know, uh uh plastic surgery is amazing, but it, you know, if you're asking for somebody's firstborn, uh, we could maybe enter uh a conversation about uh um adrenochrome.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

Yeah, yeah, right, exactly. Uh, there's a lot of people that are the same, wow, and uh yeah, Miss Melody, she's like, Wow, yeah, uh, they know what they're doing and they're putting it in our face. To me, this is more like uh the more the the ritualistic kind of stuff like you see on the Super Bowl, or maybe the the the opening of CERN or the Gothard tunnel, what you know, all these things, opening ceremonies for you you name it, soccer or Olympics, whatever it is. This is the same old crap. Listen, outcast, this is ancient evil, and they're still doing it in modern times right now. They keep doing it to us.

SPEAKER_04 19:45

Jesse, I didn't tell you this before we went on the air or anything. This is just something that happened. I was gonna mention it to you, but we never got to it. Just before I got on air, my wife and I are watching an old River Phoenix movie. Yaquin Phoenix's his um Joe Joaquin. Yeah, yeah, Yaquin. Yaquin Phoenix's brother. Uh the movie that we were watching is called Running on Empty. And his parents are fugitives because they burned down a facility that was making napalm that was being used on people during Vietnam. Uh is that ring a bell? Have you ever seen it?

SPEAKER_02 20:17

Yeah, well, I no, I haven't seen it, but you know, they they ran down napalm on the USS Liberty too. But keep going. Oh, yep.

SPEAKER_04 20:24

So stick with me. Uh, this is for for entertainment purposes only. It's just where my brain was going, okay. First thing was I was looking at River Phoenix, uh, his whole persona in this movie, and I'm like, dang, he's like the 80s generation of um what's his name? James Dean. He had a certain look about him, a certain persona about him, a laid back, uh cool, um, you know, intelligent, but edgy, you know, sulky. And then he dies young, just like James Dean. So was he sacrifice? Like I'm thinking, okay, was he sacrificed? Is this like the the Truman show sacrifice on repeat? Okay, so we're watching follow me.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

Oh, yeah, I like that. I keep going.

SPEAKER_04 21:04

All right, no, so stick with me. Then my thoughts went to this. Then the well, the next thing that happens is that his father in the movie is laying in bed with the mother, and I don't even know what the the conversation was about, but he's he's talking about two friends, and he goes, he goes, Yeah, those old those two old Jew Bolsheviks. Really? They they got away with that? Awesome. He said that and so but my greater point is this that was a clue that the Bolshevik Revolution was Jewish. Yeah, well, we knew that. Yep. Yep, I like it. Who who who died en masse in the Bolshevik Revolution? Christians. Christians. Okay. And uh so that's a clue. There's like little clues there that if the normies would never have picked up on any of that in the 80s, none of us would have. We just went right over right overhead. Yeah. And then I thought about this. I thought, man, Yaquin looks nothing like his brother. No, they didn't at all. His brother. No, and his brother is a is is is is a far more handsome, you know, uh Feet River was a far more handsome kid than you know. Yaquin.

SPEAKER_03 22:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:01

Then I thought about this. In Hollywood, what do they often say if you want to be famous? They say, Sell your soul. You either have to sell your soul or you have to sacrifice a family member. What if a young what if a young Yaquin was given the opportunity to go further?

SPEAKER_02 22:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:18

And he said, I'm jealous of that guy, my brother, right there. You can take him. Yeah. And then I'll I'll step up.

SPEAKER_02 22:24

I remember I remember the day he died, too. That night was crazy. I remember that.

SPEAKER_04 22:29

So entertain entertainment purposes only. Now here's the other thing. If it has nothing to do with that, that's fine. But why was Yaquin doing drugs? If he was at the peak of his career and everybody loved him and he was doing great. Well, if he was if he was being touched, bad touched by producers, like you know, I don't know, just for entertainment purposes.

SPEAKER_02 22:47

Weinstein or something. Spielberg. Spielberg or something. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:51

Didn't didn't Spielberg do uh stand by me that he was in?

SPEAKER_02 22:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 22:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:55

Or was that Reiner? Was that Rob Reiner?

SPEAKER_04 22:58

I thought it was Spielberg.

SPEAKER_02 22:59

It was one of those two. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:01

Somebody in our savvy chats will tell us.

SPEAKER_02 23:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 23:03

Yeah. So so my greater point is this why would a young man at the peak of his career be immersed immersing himself in drugs and OD and die? It bet because of trauma. Yeah. So there's a lot of different ways to look at it, but my brain, just watching that old movie and looking at that kid, I it was just going all different directions. But they were they're as usual, dropping clues in there, you know, talking about it.

SPEAKER_02 23:26

That said that. What uh watch that movie? Was he part of the 27 Club or no?

SPEAKER_04 23:32

Oh, no, I don't think he was that old. Uh I don't believe he's he was 27. I think he was younger, like 23 or something.

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Let's find out here. All right, Rob Reiner had a messy record. Yeah, we know. We uh when he died earlier, was that last year? Late or earlier this year. I can't remember. Remember, we went on about that, about uh all the stuff that he had going on.

SPEAKER_04 23:50

I nailed it. He was 23.

SPEAKER_02 23:51

23, awesome. Okay. Um let me see. So we have that is uh there he is right there. Yeah, see that dude was good looking too, man. He was a star.

SPEAKER_04 24:07

But it's like it's James Dean-esque. I mean, even James Dean had pictures of him in glasses like that.

SPEAKER_02 24:11

I mean, that dude was uh Rico Suave back then. I remember that.

SPEAKER_04 24:16

Yeah, yeah. It's like a like a Brad Pitt-ish or something.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

Yeah, yep. There is a um uh cult rituals, they're out, they're now out in the open for for the public to see. You know what I mean? They're like like you said, they're not even trying to hide it anymore, brother. Uh, it's just out there. So, what does that say about our timeline? Uh, you because our timeline is crazy. Uh, you know, as we know, we we don't like to put dates on everything anything, but they do. And uh 2030 is right around the corner. So uh, you know, what what's coming? Uh what are we supposed to to watch out for? Um there's a lot of crazy going on, and we're gonna look some more crazy. Uh, there's some stuff that I just found that me and you were sharing uh about this thing because there's a lot of there's a lot of uh bread and circuits going on right now. So let's switch this over to this guy um with in a soccer match. This is crazy, you guys. Um, I I gotta set this up first. Hold on. Let me see if I can stop this. Uh while you set it up about this guy in Mexico, right? Was is that what it was during a soccer match?

SPEAKER_04 25:20

But I don't know if he's in Mexico, he's actually in the States for the uh FIFA, but uh that's what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 25:25

Something to do with the Mexican team, right?

SPEAKER_04 25:26

I believe he's he's a fairly notable Mexican player.

SPEAKER_02 25:29

Oh it's Brazil, it's a Brazil.

SPEAKER_04 25:32

Well, the weird thing is I saw a dispute about that online. Two people are going, no, that guy is from Mexico, but it looks like he's worn a Brazilian jersey, so I'm not sure. Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:39

Yeah, maybe that's why they're saying it, right?

SPEAKER_04 25:41

He's a he's a FIFA player, and he's you know here for FIFA, and somebody caught this. Now, is it real? I don't know. Is it AI? I don't know. AI is getting looked good, but there is a hot debate about this online, and it's uh it's definitely fun to look at. Um, I don't know if it's true or not, but uh check it out for yourself and see what you think.

SPEAKER_02 26:00

Right. There's volume on this. Should I play the volume or no volume?

SPEAKER_04 26:03

Yeah, yeah. That I like that guy, he's fun. He's he's he's asking the question too. He's not he's not determined on what it is either, but he's he's just chucking out there to see what people say.

SPEAKER_02 26:11

All right. Here we go. Uh so this is wild. Here we go, right there. You guys might have seen this guy. Uh, what we're gonna look out for is his eyes. You guys want to check out his eyes? Here we go.

SPEAKER_06 26:23

Let's see those eyes. Mexican soccer game, bro. Caught red-handed right here. We we're gonna watch this again. Look at them eyes, bro. Stop playing.

SPEAKER_02 26:37

Look at the eyes, you guys, of this guy. Now, yes, but is it AI? Is it true? I don't know yet. It says during a soccer match, uh entity an entity realized it was being filmed. Uh, is this the fallen angels or aliens? Well, it's it's not you know it's interdimensional angels, what I'm saying. What do you what's your thoughts?

SPEAKER_04 26:58

I don't know what to think, but they were saying that there was wasn't there a big game out like that. This might be the game they're talking about, like in in was it in uh town in Miami, and they were saying that there was gonna be some kind of a UFO event taking a place in the sky over there, and people were talking about Project Bluebeam, yeah, but they didn't get any of that. But this this came out of it. But uh let's let it if you let it play out, I'm gonna let it play, they'll show how it switches over. It's really fast how it goes back.

SPEAKER_02 27:22

On his shirt, you can see it says uh there's a logo there and it says CBF. So I don't know what that stands for. CBF. Here we go.

SPEAKER_06 27:32

What is that? A reptilian? Huh? Or the fallen angels? The fought like the fallen angel that took over this guy's body, or just the air, which one is it, bro? You government officials, y'all gonna stop playing games. You gonna stop lying to the people, you gonna tell us what's going on here. Who is this Mexican right here, bro? I want answers. We gotta talk about it. That's that's in plain sight, bro. Listen, if if that's AI. First of all, my name is French Dose, man. I'll do this.

SPEAKER_04 28:05

If that's AI, it's really good. I love the the uh the glare.

SPEAKER_02 28:09

I know the glare of the stadium is in his eyeballs.

SPEAKER_04 28:13

Yeah, I I don't know, man. I think it's it's it's pretty interesting to look at. I'm I've like I said, of course, I don't know anything, but it's just I'm not saying it is or it isn't, but man, it's fun. It's like crazy if there's a anything to this.

SPEAKER_02 28:26

And and you know what, like this guy here, he's asking, you know, that they're gonna tell us. It's like, no, they're not gonna tell us. They won't. We're not gonna get an answer for any of this stuff.

SPEAKER_06 28:36

Continue to let it play, see what else it says. I'm just curious. Educational and entertainment purposes only. We just over here trying to get to the truth, right? And that and and and it's getting spooky outside, man. And mind you, all this drama that's going on with Mexico right now, right? And and and uh, you know, in America, and and and what ice been doing to these folks, right? Now we got this going on right here. This was a big time for the exposure.

SPEAKER_02 29:04

What?

SPEAKER_06 29:05

What's ice got to do with it? Nothing. Nothing. Right? What is going on, bro? I need answers. Look at the eyes, man. You're not gonna get answers. Look at the eyes, bro. Leave it in the comments, hit the like button, make sure you follow me here for more, man. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 29:29

Well, that's crazy. Music lover says CBF is the Brazilian team.

SPEAKER_04 29:34

But she also, Music Lover also said, Um, oh, that's weird, dude looked a little tired after the switch, too. I noticed that too. Yeah, he texted him. I wonder if he was getting a zoom up of the field. He was he was focused in. It's like his it opens up so he can see more detail in the field of what's happening, and then when he realized he was being watched, he clicked back over. I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_02 29:55

The CBF means the uh Confederation Brazilian football. Okay, yeah, exactly. No answers are coming. No, no, bro. They're not not from them. No, they're not gonna tell you any answers. Hey, outcast, it is 7:30. We need to get a prayer from you. Um, okay, and then we're gonna jump into some more fun stuff because this is fun. Uh, plus, I want to do the item of the week. Uh, and we have to do a uh uh a fundraiser or a fundraiser spot. So um on the other side of that, we'll jump into that stuff, and we have about another uh about 27 minutes before our guest joins us tonight. So we'll bow our heads, brother.

SPEAKER_04 30:34

Dear Heavenly Father, uh Lord of heaven and earth, we adore you and we worship you, Lord. We thank you. Aronai, El Shade, Elohim, uh Yahweh, Yeshua, Lord, uh, we come to you humbly um but with love in our heart as well. Like the perfect Father you are. We respect you, we fear you, but we love you, and we know that we are loved by you. We thank you, Lord, for pursuing us when we were running from you. We thank you for sending us messengers in the form of other people, other believers who were telling us truth when we weren't ready to hear it. But we thank you for giving us fertile hearts so that we would receive those seeds and let them be watered until we were ready to surrender to you. And Lord, again and again we surrender our hearts to Jesus. We can do nothing without you, but we can do everything with you. And in that relationship, Lord, we are gloriously grafted into the family of Abraham through the blood of Jesus Christ. And it means so much to us, Lord, to know that we are part of the family and that we are redeemed, not by our own works, but by but by what you are have done for us on the cross in love. You loved us so much, you suffered so greatly to make sure that we could be part of the family. Help us, Lord, to share that same passion for our fellow man, even people who are difficult to love. Help us to see them as you see them, so that we don't give up on anyone and we try to pull everybody possible into the family so they can stop suffering and live in true victory. Lord, break the chains and the fetters of our of the things that hold us back from fully serving you. Break the the bondages of sin and addiction that keep us from truly walking in the true light of life that you want us to walk in. Forgive us, Lord, of our unforgiveness. Help us to remember that we are forgiven by you and that we should extend that grace and that abundant mercy to other people as well. Lord, we have changed, each one of us immensely, just over a short period of time. Help us to remember that when we encounter people, that we remember that they were a bad person in the past. Let us not judge them into the future and allow them to change as well, if they show or bear fruit. Lord, help us to walk in the divine authority that we can trample over evil because we are part of the family. We are an extension of you. As you, Lord, Father, are in Christ and Christ is in you, we are in Christ and He is in us. And with the Holy Spirit, we can we can walk anywhere we want and not fear for anything. In fact, the enemy is afraid of us. Lord, help us to be wise and discerning to the cunning schemes of the devil. Every week I swear it's something new he's trying to get to me, trying to get me to feel hatred, trying to get me to feel uh resentful for something of the past, trying to get me to lust, trying to get me to um return to old vices. Lord, help us to stand firm in opposition to all of those schemes, knowing that we in relationship with you are living the best quality of life that we could ever live. And going backwards isn't going to serve any positive purpose in our lives. If there's somebody out there right now listening to this prayer and it's speaking to you, just remember you are in relationship with Jesus. He loves you and he wants to be in relationship with you, but you can't be cheating cheating in that relationship. We need to try every day to get better and better at being the spouse that we need to be to Jesus Christ, Lord. Align our hearts and minds with Jesus so we can think and act in a way that draws people closer to you. Forgive us, Lord, if there's any pride in us whatsoever. Search us out and reveal to us unforgiveness or pride that we're that we may be uh ignoring or looking past, and help us to let it go and relinquish that. And may you increase as we decrease in everything that we do for the glory and the honor of the kingdom and for you, Lord. Lord, we thank you so very much for our sister in in Christ, uh, Vicky Joy Anderson. Lord, um, she is just an amazing individual. She sees uh the world in a in a light that few can, and she helps those who don't see to see a little better. By the way, she explains things and she's willing to hold our hands and walk us in the process to see more. We are so honored to be in this fight together with her. She is the perfect sister in Christ. She walks in humility and kindness, and you've downloaded immense amounts of wisdom and discernment and revelation into her that she is more than willing to share with everyone who is willing to listen. We are so grateful and honored that she'd want to come back onto our show. Bless her greatly indeed. Bless our conversation, bless every word and thought that enters Jesse's mind and out of his lips. Same for me and same for Vicky Joy Anderson. Lord, we pray that you will um every listener of our audience out there right now, everybody who participates in any way, shape, or form, we pray that you'll just heap your blessings upon them. Your abundant mercy and graces made new every day. We pray that even in their discouraging times, that they will remember to reflect and turn their hearts towards you and that you will hold their hand through that process of getting through it. Because if you led them to it, you're gonna lead them through it and you're gonna make them better on the other side. So let us not shrink away from challenges or shrink away from adversity. Help us to walk through those situations boldly, courageously, knowing that you are right there with us in the process and you are you are strengthening us and growing us at the same time. Let us not think that we're being punished for one minute, but rather refined in the fire. Lord, bless this episode, protect us from any uh technical glitches or or or tech demons or anything else that wants to harass us in any way, shape, or form. Put a mighty hedge of protection around every single one of us, all our listeners as well. Uh we plead the blood of Jesus Christ over every single listener and ourselves as well, from the crowns of our head to the soles of our feet. We want to walk in that authority of knowing that we are uh cleansed in your blood and that nothing can touch us, and that we are not performing, we are rather bearing fruit out of love. I pray all these things in Jesus Christ's holy and precious name. Amen.

SPEAKER_02 36:41

All right, brother. Thank you. Amen. Yeah, that was good. I like uh I like that protection. I like what you're saying in the beginning. You've been feeling like you've been under attack for the last several weeks. I know, isn't that I'm saying that's it?

SPEAKER_04 36:53

It's something new, it's something it's it's something new every week that tries to reduce me back to who I used to be and not who I am.

SPEAKER_02 36:59

Yeah, I know, I don't know what it is, but I feel the same thing, man. It's like uh uh you know, just just fighting fight fighting back something. I don't know what is everybody saying amen. Uh out here outcast. Let's see, uh Evan's out there, Angela's joined the chat. Uh yeah, everybody's digging it. Uh save by Grace, uh Amber Dawn outcast. She's got two or three four names. Uh, so we'll just use it. Yeah. Uh listen, um, we have to talk about our our uh affiliate item of the week. All right, our affiliate item of the week this week, you guys. It's a good one because it's from Vicky Joy Anderson, and it is her book, and here it is right here. From Eden to AI. Now, listen to this, you guys. It says, Are we witnessing well? First of all, the title. The title is crazy of this book, and this is what we're going to be talking about tonight with Vicky when she comes on here in just a little bit. Um, From Eden to AI, how fallen angels and ancient idolatry are ensnaring humanity through modern technology. Fits perfectly with the show, outcast. Uh, it says, Are we witnessing the return of ancient idols disguised as cutting-edge technology? Do you sense the growing unease that AI is more than the algorithm and code? That it carries a spiritual agenda beyond human understanding? As the world races towards a new digital utopia, are we unknowingly bowing to the same false gods that deceived humanity in ages past? Yes, an ancient evil. Uh, that same spirit lured mankind to worship stones and stars now, uh, beckon us through silicone chips and neural nets. Yeah, and the Moloch crap, like Dolly Parton was doing. Uh, through years of prayer, study, and prophetic discernment, researcher. Well, I'll save that for later. But this sounds like uh this book is loaded with everything we'd like, outcast. It's crazy, and I can't wait to talk to her about this stuff tonight. Uh, fallen angels, uh ancient tech, uh idolatry. I mean, what's your thoughts?

SPEAKER_04 38:52

I want to I want the book. Me too. Me too. Oh, me too. Um, yeah, each one each one of those questions you're you're reading off. I'm like, yes, yes, I feel yes, I agree. You know, she's saying here.

SPEAKER_02 39:04

We're gonna demand answers for these things when she comes on. Uh, but this is our item of the week, you guys, this week. So if you want this book like we do, uh it's what is it, 21 bucks right now over on Amazon. And it's um uh the link is right there. Our very first link at the at the top of the description down below. You can order that book. And uh, you know, people have really been buying a lot of these books that we've been having for our item of the week stuff. Uh the books have seen seemed like a really good one. And remember on Father's Day, we did that lantern, that lamp, that Dursa lantern? Bunch of those. A bunch of people went out and bought those. Uh I like them too. Uh yep, I'm down with that. But uh uh From Eden to AI. Man, that's gonna be a good one. So uh we'll bring that up again uh in a little bit when she comes on. But I think that's gonna be a great book to add to our collection. Our our um, what do you call it?

SPEAKER_04 39:52

Our uh our armament ammo, yeah. Our library, yeah, yeah. Our library of armament.

SPEAKER_02 39:58

Ms. Melody says amen to your prayer, too.

SPEAKER_04 40:01

So um, see this Amber Dawn comment down here.

SPEAKER_02 40:04

Uh let me see. She says, Outcast witches left dead birds at our church. The welfare is real. Stay strong, brother. Oh man, yeah, I believe that.

SPEAKER_04 40:14

And then and then Evan said, Outcast, that has been constant for me lately. Everything is pulling me back. Yeah, dude, it is crazy. I mean, and it's clever. Like, I mean, I don't want to get off on a tangent, but we have a um kitty corner from my house. We have a real quiet neighborhood. Mostly, you know, we're all getting older. A lot of most of us are you know older people, and we've been here for a long time, and it's a quiet little neighborhood. Well, we got this house that went up for sale when the lady died, and this guy bought it and turned it into an Airbnb uh, I'm trying to think of the the other one. There's vet verbo. Verbo. Yeah, and and every so often there's a group of kids that rent it, and they're not supposed to do this, but they turn it into a party house and they go with bananas and they get fights, and it's we call the cops, and and we can't uh it's a whole thing. Yeah. I was I was uh trying to sleep because I had to get up early for church uh on Sunday, and I was just like I tried to go to bed a little bit early earlier, and I got woke up out of a dead sleep and hearing these uh low IQ people fighting in my front yard practically. Low IQ stirred up I'm not joking. And and I it it stirred it stirred up this this this anger in me, but I'm grateful because what I chose to do instead was I went into prayer, deep prayer, and I was praying for all of those young people's trauma, all of their feelings of abandonment or hurt or neglect that they've been through. I was praying for the Holy Spirit to enter the situation and bring peace to a to a chaotic situation. Like I just started, I just went into prayer. Um, I'm glad I did that because it gave me a sense of peace that otherwise, what am I gonna do? Go out there and yell or do something stupid and then start out in a war. I mean, it you know, I can't I can't do that.

SPEAKER_03 41:57

Right, right?

SPEAKER_04 41:57

It's gonna, it'll never end. But the old me, my temperament would have, you know, and then you know, then there's anger for the people that were out there, and I'm just like, I don't want any of this, I don't want to be part of any of this stuff. And I and I thought about it like I this, I swear to you, this feels like the devil trying to antagonize me. Yeah, it really did. That's that's what it felt like trying to make me go to my old self.

SPEAKER_02 42:15

Yeah, Evan says I'd lose my mind, I'd be so tempted to go fight a lot of them.

SPEAKER_04 42:19

Yeah, oh trust me. I was thinking of all that stuff, but I had to I had to count the what the consequences would be, you know. Right, yeah, you know, and the cop and I don't think the cops can do anything.

SPEAKER_02 42:29

Oh no, they can't. Not not you know, nothing like that. Um, but they just come and you know, they can hang around, but you got to get after the owner, the owner of the place. Say, look here, you wanna you want to mess with this neighborhood? Well, we'll mess with you too. So just get the owner to stop doing that stuff and uh it'd be all right. So, yeah, those witches on uh you know delivering that stuff. Uh it at the porch is crazy. The birds and all that. That's that's trying to cast spells is what they're trying to do.

SPEAKER_04 42:52

Well, and Bradon's saying exactly what I was trying to say about the kids party in my front yard. So she says, praying the witches are delivered. Can you imagine the amazing testimony that those witches would have if they switch teams? That would just it would be incredible.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

Yeah, that's not their spirit, though. They've been uh they're they're they are deceived too.

SPEAKER_04 43:09

So well, what I'm saying is is if we pray hard over them to have a revelation to come to Christ, oh yeah, can you imagine what an incredible asset that would be to our to the kingdom work? It's just cool to think about. So so instead of hating them and wanting wishing ill on them, yeah, you gotta you just gotta cover them in love and and just imagine their lives being transformed into something better. Yeah, so just thinking out loud.

SPEAKER_02 43:29

Yeah, no, it makes sense. That's what I'm saying. We shouldn't we need to be praying for our enemies all the time, and even our politicians, the ones that uh that that are are beholden to someone else instead of us, uh you know, as they're supposed to be. Let's we need to be praying for them too. You know, we gotta get this thing turned around. Uh yeah, I don't think we're gonna, but it's it's worth a good it's a good practice. Um yeah, music lovers comment here.

SPEAKER_04 43:52

Yeah, that that it I think these this this rental house has been targeted for some reason. I've been talking to the landlord and he's trying to figure it out, but For some reason, it seems almost teen takeovery with that. It seems like they've designated this house as a place to rent to go crazy and you know, yeah, that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_02 44:08

Yeah, she's talking about the uh have you guys been seeing these teen takeovers in your area? We have had a lot, a handful of riots and street fights on the fourth. Yeah, they they try to gather up and then uh you know police will show up and say, no, not not here. But they you know they they'll do it in smaller spots. But you know, there's been some spots in Detroit, maybe Southfield, that they were doing that. Remember just a couple weeks ago. Um, but yeah, it I don't know. Uh it's a thing, it's a thing that's out there in in the in our culture. It's crazy. Um, we have something else that's good, and I think it it there's a positive uh light outcome to this outcast. A friend of ours, a friend of the show, Mick. If you want to introduce this, I'll get this uh this ready for his spot fund. Now, spot fund, you guys, is similar to like uh uh give send go, uh maybe like a go fund me, but you know it's it's a spot fund. Uh I'll pull this up, outcast, if you want to introduce what we're doing here.

SPEAKER_04 45:03

Okay, so uh a really good friend of the show, Mick, who's been also a guest on our show. Uh if you know him, you love him. He's just a little dynamo. I like to think of him as like a little John the Baptist type kind of person. He's just he's uh he's feisty, he's articulate, um, and he he cares about us as a show. He's he supports us and he's always listening. Um, but he's got a situation going on, and it's it's essentially a a custody battle for his kid, and uh it's gonna require um some hefty legal fees that he is not uh he needs assistance with. Yeah. So if if you could please pray over this situation, Jesse will read a little bit in the in the bio here, but um, if you could please pray and consider uh donating something to help Mick and his family um get the legal help that they need to get his uh daughter out of a situation where she would probably be better off with him um than the mother. Yeah. Um just just my take. He didn't say that. That's my take on it. Um so we would just you know, he just wants to be a father. He's he's a loving guy. He he's he takes fatherhood extremely seriously. And um I hate to see him suffer under the the weight of this situation with his daughter.

SPEAKER_02 46:10

Well, I'm putting the link to this in all the chats right now, and it's also down below. It says mixed fundraiser, and I also put it over there in our Discord, so the link is everywhere right now. Um, at least you can share it uh if you can't donate. But uh the the goal here, Outcast. Do you have any more to say about that or want me to go on and read it?

SPEAKER_04 46:28

No, I'll I'll let you read it. Yeah, I think that might be more pointed.

SPEAKER_02 46:31

Okay, right now they they have a 10 uh a $10,000 goal um to help with the uh the attorney fees that he's gonna need. So uh there's one donor right now, one uh one uh donation has come in. So we're trying to get some more for uh for brother Mick tonight, and I'm gonna go ahead and read this. He says it's a father's fight to help Mick stay in his daughter's life. And here's the heart of the matter. Anyone who knows me knows that my children are my entire world. As a father of five, I have always tried to be a hands-on, present dad. Uh, being a father isn't just something I say, it's something I live every day. For over a year, my daughter spent every single weekend with me. Those weekends became our special time together. Whether we are fishing, working on small projects, talking about school, or just laughing and spending time together, those moments are the ones that matter most to both of us. To me, being her father uh is not just a role, uh a role, it's my greatest responsibility and the greatest joy of my life. Now, here's his current challenge. Uh, it says recently I uh things have taken a very difficult turn. I am now facing legal battle that threatens my ability to continue seeing and supporting my daughter the way a father should. My daughter has now uh now has legal representation in court. In order to make sure my voice is heard and to fight for the right to remain actively involved in her life, I must secure an attorney of my own. Unfortunately, the cost of her legal representation is significant. Yeah, it's it's it's crazy. Um, the retainer and legal fees are estimated between ten and fifteen thousand dollars. Uh for my family right now, that is a mountain we simply cannot climb alone. Uh, with proper legal representation, I risk uh, or without proper legal representation, I risk losing the ability to fight for my relationship with my daughter and her siblings will suffer the loss of their relationship with her as well. And there's more to it down there there if you guys want to go the more of his journey and in his faith and all that. Uh, but you know, there there's one right now. Uh you know, in in the road to 10,000, they're they're at a hundred bucks right now. So I'm asking you guys if you feel within your your heart and in your in your wallet, in your pocketbook, and if if you can make it, you can make it. If you can give them a dollar, five dollars, whatever it is, go ahead and do that. If you cannot, there's uh also a share button right there. So please share uh to other people. Uh, you know, this is a it's a it's a rough situation. And you guys might remember Mick. He was on our show. Uh, when was that, Outcast? Maybe I'll look it up here and and we'll look at it. Yeah, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_04 48:57

It was probably a year ago, is my guess, right?

SPEAKER_02 49:00

Something like that. Yeah, I'll look it up.

SPEAKER_04 49:02

Yeah, um, and then he after he did our show, he went on and did Sean Brooks's show and did a bang up job there, too. He's a he's a very, very bright, articulate guy. His wife Tracy's a sweetheart, too. They're just really good people. They love the Lord, they love this show, um, they love this community. Yeah, and we love them back. So if you guys could please prayerfully consider uh, you know, donating to to mix cause here. Uh any little bit helps uh help them to make make them at least feel not so alone in this battle um because you know that the court system can be very cruel towards men sometimes. Yeah. Um, yeah, and like music says here, you know, pray pray for for justice and and fairness to be had in this situation.

SPEAKER_02 49:37

Yeah. Uh he was on with us episode 201, uh in March uh 20 uh 25. And that one was called Common Sense for Common Men, featuring Mick. And we talked about uh uh RFK Jr.'s uh the smear campaign against them, the act of denial systems. We talked about milk, doge, and uh the cultural steamroller. So uh that was a good episode. A lot of people, it looks like they like that. So uh if you can help a brother out, that's brother Mick in his uh, like I said, the description is down below. Yeah, it's it's all over the place. Uh, if you guys want to be able to check him out, and if you can help, help. Uh if you know other people that might just send them the link, that would also help too. So um our our guest is not in the room right now with his uh outcast. So what we'll do is go ahead and talk about a few things. Now, do you remember? Oh, we did this uh a while back too. We talked about the Patriot Front. Remember those Fed boys? I used to call them Patriot Patriot uh Patriots fronting. Remember proper pants, yeah, proper pants, right? And uh what they so these guys have been around for quite a while. Uh, I don't know, through the Biden administration, right? Uh when I say quite a while, I mean relatively, you know, a few years, Patriot Front that I I remember. Uh they they walk around pretending like they're some sort of I don't know, pro-America Patriots or something, but they all cover their faces and they have brand new flags, brand new pants, everything. They're they're fed boys, okay? They they are straight up feds, and they're they're you know, they've been busted inside of U-Haul trucks and stuff, you know, it's because somebody opened the door and there's a guy with a camera right there, and oops, we didn't we weren't ready yet to start our LARPing. Well, remember uh it when when the new Trump administration came in, Cash Patel. Uh remember that the whole thing they shut them down because it was showed that they were getting funded, right? They were getting funded to do whatever they're doing. Um, and you know, look, I know the people on the right, we do not claim these guys, right? Because they don't we don't know who they are, other than their feds.

SPEAKER_04 51:41

Um, but they're not organic, they're not organic, they're a they're a construct.

SPEAKER_02 51:45

Yeah, they're they're they're put together to to everybody's pointing at them. Like, what what is this? If you guys were with us, you would be showing your faces, you'd have uh you'd look more like us. Instead, you look like goofball fed boys, uh, which is exactly what they are. Well, anyway, their their funding went away or something when uh Cash Patel did that, right? And they were gone because I think it showed up on USAID or something, right? That they were getting paid. And then just recently, we have we found out that also the SP Southern Poverty Law Center, SPLC, they were getting money to put groups together just like this, send them out there on missions, and then point at them a false flag, just like the USS Liberty, so they can point at them and say, Look what they're doing, they're on the right, they're part of you guys, and they're a bunch of racists, and then uh I don't know, like Hitler, Nazi crazy stuff, right? And we're looking at them like they're not with any of us. If they were, they'd look you'd see their faces if they were with us, right? Uh, they're not gonna, it's it's crazy, but anyway, these guys somehow they got some funding. Now, some people are saying that you know these are just Antifa dressed up the same way, or it's uh you know, Fed Boys Part 2.0, uh Patriot fronting, and they were on uh some train that there's a picture taken anyway this weekend, right? Well, the left is just gobbling it up, they love this, it's so funny, but I don't understand who they think they're fooling because I went on and I looked uh through some some establishment media, left and right. Uh, they all kind of reported on it with this one picture, a black lady on a train, right? She's just sitting there, and there's a couple of goofy Fed boy Patriot fronting guys sitting there with uh they're just all sitting on the train. We have no context other than they're sitting on a train car and they're all looking this way. There's no threatening, nothing anywhere, just people sitting there. So they come up with a story. So I I don't I think the the the story is not for us because we know we know who these guys are, right? We that they're not us, they're they're something else, they're all like you said, they're all some construct of what they are. Well, I I think the the the people that watch the left media, you know, their fans, they're they're normies or whatever, I think they're trying to gaslight them, outcast. I think that I think that's all they're doing is they try to out because it's not it doesn't work on us. We're seeing it all like, yes, these are the the Fed boys. It's it's nuts. Tell me what you're thinking.

SPEAKER_04 54:12

No, I mean you know, it it's it's just fascinating to me how the awakening continues for people like us who have eyes to see. I believe that's part of the fact that when you surrender your heart to to Christ, um there's a veil that's lifted and it and and we can see more than other people through see through things anyways. And and when I think about all the false flag events, all the gaslighting events, all the like you find, I mean from finding out that the Southern Southern Potter Poverty Law Center was actually funding neo-Nazi groups is everything you need to know about how this system works. Nothing is as it seems, and they play on our motions to accomplish goals. It's crisis reaction solution. Uh I uh you know, all over the place. And once you kind of can get dialed into it, everything falls apart. Well, the Fed boys uh what do you want to call them? The uh what do they call them?

SPEAKER_02 55:02

Patriot's front. That's what I'm talking about front, the Fed boys.

SPEAKER_04 55:06

Yeah, the Patriot Front Fed boys. It is it is yet another manifestation of wagging the dog, right? Yeah, of the tail wagging the dog. So they they we find out that there's different aspects to each you know of the three letter agencies. You've got white hats and black hats, and you've got each one has their own goal. Ironically, both goals probably lead us to the same end result, which is globalism. But regardless, they have a different way of approaching it. And one is gonna say, oh, look at these look at these white supremacists. Yeah, they were calling white supremacists. Yeah, yeah. And and and it feeds a narrative that they need to to uh uh animate voters. When I say animate, it it gets them in motion to get to the polls and do their check the box thing. Yeah, I mean they they they need boogeyman. So the the quote the the the challenge here for us is as a Christ family, uh a family of a family through Christ, is to not be puppeted by anyone. Do not let anybody animate your emotions. And that goes right back to my last point. If the devil is putting people in my path that are making me want to revert to my old self, I have to recognize, whoa, I ain't playing this game. You are not gonna manipulate my emotions to get what you want out of me. That's what it all comes down to. Yeah. Who's manipulating who, right? Um, do not allow it. Don't allow yourself to be to be played like this because it is it is diabolical, it's evil, it's meant for division, hatred, and who wins? They do. They do the eternal myth and paradox. Yeah, paradox. They move every single time. We have to rise above this and and we have to ask God for wisdom and discernment every single day because the schemes are thick, brother. They are thick.

SPEAKER_02 56:38

Yeah. Well, like I said, I think they're they're trying to gaslight their own people because it doesn't work on us. We already know what these guys are. It was we we were calling them Patriots Front years ago when they were doing this crap, and there was the same thing with the uh the Charles Charles Char was Charlottesville, yeah. Charlottesville, yeah, the torch and stuff. That wasn't those. Well, it was probably those guys, but they were dressed up differently, and they were uh goofy morons too, and they're trying to do the same thing with them. But it ended up being that was just a piece from uh I don't know, some some like uh Lincoln, the Lincoln Project people. It was if I remember correctly, it was something like that. But it was that would that turn out to be a bunch of crazy stuff, too. It was, you know, when it comes down to it, it's getting funded by through all the the open society stuff, the George Soros crap, the uh through through USAID, and from our taxpayer funded money, you know what I'm saying? So it's like uh we're we're paying for our own false flaggery, and and it's crazy it's our tax dollars being used against us.

SPEAKER_04 57:37

It's yeah, I can't I can't take it anymore. The the Truman Show Clown World sucks.

SPEAKER_02 57:43

It does hate this. Oh, it's a horrible timeline, and the timeline's been going for a long time. Um, our our um our sister Vicky Joy is having trouble logging in. She's saying the link is just not working properly for her. Uh it's the same link that we've always had.

SPEAKER_04 57:58

Can you send her a fresh link?

SPEAKER_02 58:00

Yeah, I'm gonna send her another fresh one. So um if you want to talk about um let me see here. I know, yeah, I know. What kick uh let's see what's what's going down here on on the chat in the chats? Um we have quiet. Yeah, if you want to address some of that outcast, uh do that while I I'm gonna send her another link here, and you can talk to the chats if you want and see what's going on. Um yeah, they're getting embedded and all that stuff. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 58:36

So Evan says, uh Patriot, oh uh, where'd it go? Patriot Front are obvious feds. Remember when they had the the getting arrested photo shoot while still wearing backpacks and wearing their masks? I think that's a perfect example of being wise and discerning enough to recognize what they're up to. You know, how realistic, but see, the photo op has to look, you know, it has to look edgy, you know. But can you imagine seriously? They're gonna arrest you with your mask on still on your face, and they're gonna arrest you with a backpack on your back. Getting out of here. Yeah, it's just it's clownville every day. Um let's see here. And then he says, uh, I think the Patriot Front were actually a group some years back when it first started, they got whooped or whooped on by Philly locals. Now the group never seems to have any pushback or arrests, only photo ops. Yeah, I like that commentary too. Um, so yeah, I mean, like once again, I'm just gonna repeat myself a little bit. I just cannot stand the fact that they are playing on our emotions, on everything. Do not allow it. Stay rooted in you know, in in Christ and in your in the holy word of God for peace. Because what happens is, and I know this is repetitive when I say this, but I just got to remind everybody uh when they play on your emotions, when you when you are fear filled with fear or anger, you stop thinking critically, and they know that. Yeah, the devil knows that. It's the oldest game in the book. So we have to just try to recenter ourselves on Christ every chance we get, because everything, I mean, whether it's like it's something supernatural or it's something actual physical, like a group of people like the the you know, these Fed boys, all this stuff is designed to elicit a response from somebody to to push a narrative to gain a foothold for them and not us. We never win these games, they win every time. Every time we let them plan our emotions. Even the George Floyd thing, you know, um look at the people that over that went nuts for that. It's like, okay, yeah, I don't think it's right that anybody be killed by a cop if that's what happened. I'm not even sure that it is what happened. But if if it is, you can have every right to be mad. But what to riot and destroy your own neighborhoods? I what where's the logic in this? Well, it had nothing to do with protesting what is right or wrong, it had everything to do with creating chaos and disruption so the Marxists can get a foothold and it's it's essentially a color revolution, crisis reaction solution.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

Right, yeah. And that it's a it's an ancient tactic that's been around forever. Um what what's this right here? What's that go ahead and address that.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:51

Uh Chase Huge Hughes did a crazy accurate Truman episode. He is uh behavioral analogy. I think Chase Hughes. Oh Hughes, okay. Okay. Uh and then Evan says the same uh same goes with militia groups. They start up and immediately get uh roosted by the feds and become useful idiots. Yeah, I that that makes sense to me too.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

Oh man. Um I'm just typing back to her. Um I don't I don't know what the do is there anything on your screen that that talks about uh what uh the screen you're using? Because she's trying to use the same screen. She's got to give her permission somehow.

SPEAKER_04 1:01:31

Yeah, there's there's the first uh prompt is it asks for permission. Uh you know, yeah, asks for permission, then you give it that. It asks second question will ask, can does do you want it to make changes to your computer? I always say no, and then it allows me to to it starts ringing in to you.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:47

All right, yeah, yeah. I just I I just exact that's kind of what I told her. I said, uh keep you got to give it permission, try it. And uh hopefully she does. It worked last time. Show she said she was just on a show using this the same software and it worked. So uh you're on, so if it wasn't working, you wouldn't be on.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:05

So do you think me logging off for a minute and you working with her would make a difference?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:10

No, because it comes in through a different channel. Okay, yeah. Um, if it if it wasn't working, you like I said, it would disconnect you and you wouldn't be on here.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:19

So what would happen if she, instead of using her PC, used her phone?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:24

Well, she can do that. We've done it before. They're laughing at my uh entertaining. Uh look at me. You're multitasking, yeah. Trying to multitask. Yeah, I do that non-stop here. You know, being a producer and a voice on the show, uh, is very, very busy. There's a lot to do here. I mean, I'm looking at all these screens and everything, and it took remember in the beginning when I was trying to learn this stuff, it was hilarious. Not for me, but for you know, you guys, it's probably unlistenable, but uh, there was so much trying to learn all this stuff.

SPEAKER_04 1:02:52

Uh you impress me all the time.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:54

Well, I'm having a lot of hats. So we're trying to see here. Still getting a message. So that my camera mic isn't right, but everything is set up as always. Um, I'm just gonna have her call in.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:11

Oh.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:14

Thanks for your patience, everybody.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:16

Yeah. I'm gonna see if I can just give her a call on the phone and we can do it that way. And if we can, I can adjust this uh this uh screen. Uh you know, maybe we can do it like that. So let's let me see if I can dial her up real quick.

SPEAKER_04 1:03:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

And get a ring. Alright, you guys, we're ringing. Uh it went right to voicemail. This is craziness. Yeah, I know this is not good radio for you guys. Uh, you know, you you don't like it, so um there's some other things that we can possibly go over while I'm still trying to make this work. This is this is bad. I don't know what's going on why why she's having this issue.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:10

If our listeners could please say a prayer to resolve this technical issue, that'd be appreciated.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:16

Yeah, that'd be nice. Um I'm trying to get her you know hooked up here on the on the on the telly. Is this Vicki?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:25

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:26

Hey Vicky, can you can you hear us? Uh Alcast, can you hear Vicky?

SPEAKER_04 1:04:31

I can hear Vicky.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:33

Vicki, I think you're good. Can you say hi to us?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:36

Yeah, hi. I can hear both of you.

SPEAKER_04 1:04:39

Oh, you sound great.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:40

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:41

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:41

Uh it's coming out of one channel on my headphones. Are you good on your both of your headphones, Alcast?

SPEAKER_03 1:04:45

Yeah, yeah, I'm doing great.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:47

Okay, good. Well, I don't know what's going on because it's wide open. All the links are there, and uh, you know, we have your uh we we we did an introduction on your book, and uh I wish you could join us. I mean, you can keep trying if you'd like. Uh if your computer, if you want to try restarting your computer, that's fine too.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:04

Um, I'm I'm restarting it now for the second time. And what's so weird, guys, I literally 15 minutes before this got off of a podcast on Ecamm and everything was fine.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:17

Wow. Wow, it doesn't even make sense.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:21

Yeah, we we we we know how the enemy is, so apparently somebody in our somebody in our audience is not meant to hear, or the devil doesn't want them to hear your message tonight. That's what I think. I tell you guys we will persevere.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:35

I I feel like I have an uncanny amount of like tech issues, and it's like I will I will literally have like I I this is my third podcast today in a row, and every time there's a tech issue in it's something completely different.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:50

Look, I'm I'm not surprised by it, Vicky. Uh, you know, talking about these things uh it seems to always bring out the tech boogeyman. Uh and and it they're there. You know, we had uh well in the last month we had Vicky on or uh uh uh your your very good friends Karen Wilkinson and in LA they were on last month and uh it seems like we run over the kind of the same kind of I don't know gnarly gnarly topics right and they seem to draw a crowd from uh from the unseen so uh we're we're gonna push our way through this uh you know at least we have your voice uh if if you yeah if you can keep working on that we'll keep working on that but we do have a lot of questions on your book because the title there's so much stuff in that title it's crazy um I wish uh you know there is one thing you can do too if you get back on if you go on to YouTube or Rumble you can at least watch it'll be in delay but you can at least watch the show live and uh but don't pay attention to it too much because you'll be 20 seconds behind. Oh okay okay if you can watch you can you'll be able to see the uh the uh the the chats I'd say go to uh YouTube and you can see the chats there uh because yeah because I'm sure that uh the like music lover she just typed in uh those stanky uh demons working overtime tonight yeah yeah yeah I'm about to try this one more time here I I got everything okay going again um let's just see here what it wants to do oh my gosh so ridiculous um okay yeah if there's any kind of permissions down below it's it's a screen that outcast sees and all our guests see I don't see that screen so if if there's some something you can offer for her outcast you can do that now but I don't see your screen I just see your camera okay I am while you're doing that I'm gonna read a little bit from your your uh the intro for the for the people um so I read uh you know and by the way Vicky this um the uh yeah we have your book as our item of of the week our affiliate item of the week and we have a link to it uh right there in the description we also have your uh website down below but right here you guys it says through the years of prayer or through years of prayer study and prophetic discernment researcher and Bible teacher Vicky Joy Anderson uncovered the chilling parallels between ancient black stones fallen angel technology and today's artificial intelligence um uh revolution this breakthrough resource reveals the hidden hand guiding humanity towards uh technical uh technological tower of babel I like that uh while offering believers scriptural uh wisdom discernment and hope and Vicky's website is right here down below you guys if you guys want to check that out please do that um but but again your um the the title of this book says it all let's go back to this outcast because this was really good go ahead it sounds really good i mean like the like I want the book and and the price is a good the price is a steel too well I got a link for you right there so uh I've got it up on the screen right there um uh how fallen angels and ancient idolatry are ensnaring humanity through modern technology and you know this is a this is something that we talk about all the time uh you know where's it gonna go we have 2030 coming uh you know but we've been warning people since you know I first learned about this stuff back in 92 at that uh it was it the the uh Kyoto Japan I believe that summit that they had that very first one talking about climate change and all that stuff and then they they have an they had another one talking about uh 2030 and at that time it was agenda 21 and uh you know I've always kept my eye my ear on this stuff and it's just been growing and growing and and then I watched these uh the smart meters go on the TV or on the houses and then I watched these TVs come in uh I see that you're in the chat and the YouTube so that's good um at least you can see kind of what we're talking about. If your computer wants to hook up it's boy I'd we'd love to be able to see you.

SPEAKER_04 1:10:00

Yeah but um we have a lot of questions we'll take any yeah we'll take any way we can get you though this is fine too I wish you could have heard my opening I wish you could have heard my opening prayer Vicky um I just want to say I'm I I I thank God for you that you are in this fight with us.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:16

People like you are a rare gem uh to that that like like you're there's a veil that's been lifted by God so that you can see a deeper uh deeper context to the unseen realm and the battle we're in and um you're you are an absolute uh boy a a beautiful gem in this fight and we're so grateful to have you and thank you for coming on our show again we're excited to hear about the new book absolutely anytime I've I've sort of given up on the on the video guys I've tried everything I've tried two different um microphones and no microphone and so if if this is okay with with everybody for the fly and hopefully we can get it worked out and do something a little bit more yeah as long as you can hear us we can hear you over here and you I can tell there's already a bunch of people from your camp in the chat so welcome you guys glad to see you guys um you know with us you were with us before and it was episode uh uh from last year uh it was uh I believe just about a year ago I'm gonna look it up uh just so people if you guys want to go back because that was a good one too and that was episode 202. They only come out at night and that was talking about your uh your other book uh we're talking about sleep paralysis and out of body experience and all that stuff so that was crazy and tonight I think we're this is like a uh I don't know uh to to me in my mind this is like the extension a second extension of that book it probably isn't but to me it kind of feels that way so uh you know again welcome to the show I got your name up here on on the on the on the screen Vicky so uh we're on the phone with Vicky Joy Anderson tonight so what I want to ask you first is a question that I read earlier when I was reading the description and it says could the idols of old be returning disguised in artificial intelligence I say yes but I want to hear from you yes yeah uh so what what what's that all about with Vicky?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:08

Yeah absolutely so you know what kind of got me started on on this book because believe me I you know I actually have a part two today only come out at night like it's written the coverage design it's ready i it's like a button away from uploading right but I thought you know what I'm gonna be like Jerry Mathers like the beaver I'm gonna typecast myself and I'm not gonna be able to ever get another acting stop you know so I thought I don't want people to think like the only thing I'm gonna talk about it for the rest of my life is sleep paralysis and and so um AI is of great interest to me and um I'm studying right now I'm a little more than halfway through a doctorate and there's tons I'm doing tons and tons of reading on ancient Near East stuff right and it has really taken hold of my imagination and I will tell you when you parallel studying of ancient Near Eastern history at the same time that you're studying AI all sorts of dots start connecting. I mean when you start thinking about the days of Noah and there's nothing new under the sun and okay what would what would ancient Near Eastern idolatry look like in the 21st century um back then they had stones and altars and pillars that they venerated and now we we don't go out and bow down to rocks right but what do we do? We carry around this tech in our pocket we we are inseparable we're codependent on this tech. And when I say we me too guys like I I couldn't do anything that I if you took my phone and my laptop away from me like it's pretty impossible to even research with without like Google these days right and even even a lot of the books that I'm reading you know you just you go to Internet Archive and and you go to Gutenberg and you go to all these sites that have all of the the old out of print books and I don't want to go and try to find these books in a library and go back to the Dewey decimal system you know so but but anyway I digress uh the the similarity and and I go to great lengths in the book to to explain that what I think the mystery in the black box is meaning how does binary code zeros and ones all of a sudden turn into this almost sentient like behavior um where the the programming is no longer just mimicking human like behavior but it almost seems to be taking on a life of its own well believe it or not there is a direct correlation these rocks that were venerated in in the old days uh like Diana who fell from Zeus from Cybele of Rome these ancient goddesses were actually meteorite fragments and these things were venerated because uh it's not that the ancients thought the rocks themselves were alive but these rocks became vessels and conduits of the demonic energy and they became communication devices and what's really fascinating not to give away the whole kitten caboodle but uh the the meteorites were what were being venerated and I mean when we read in the Bible idols and stones we don't necessarily understand that it was very specific stones that were being collected and they were the the the the carcasses of the fallen stars they were meteorites now what's interesting is uh all of our our computing infrastructure up to this point has been uh very dependent upon silicon and you know we have silicon valley even named after that now there is a new element being used for quantum computing and for AI chips and they have upgraded from silicon to silicon carbide and everything that you wanted and never wanted to know about silicon carbide and how it ties into um my theories here you'll find in my book but what I found and it just gave me goosebumps it gave me chills is that silicon carbide can be synthetically reproduced in a lab we we can create synthetic silicon carbide but if you want the real kahuna you want in its natural element silicon carbide the only place you can mine it is inside of a meteorite it's one of the elements of a meteorite so in the old days you had these actual meteorite fragments being venerated and worshipped and communicated to and now we're taking the the literal DNA out of those rocks and we are putting them into our technology and what the the output which is even alarming to many of the programmers is we're putting in binary code and we're getting sentient like behavior what is going on and so uh my first entry level novice guess because uh I'm not a tech guru I I'm not a geologist uh and so my um my entry level just idiot in an armchair explanation is you are putting what the ancients thought was sentient material into our our phone take out this take out the silicon carbide let's go back to silicon and the mystery of the black box gets gets uh gets resolved so that's sort of the the little basic premise of my book uh but there's all sorts of goodies and tidbits and if if you love ancient history and folklore and um how I think all this ties into the days of Noah and all that you're gonna get all those goodies in the book.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:16

That sounds exciting to me outcast this is this is like right up our alley. I mean this would fit great in our libraries over here um to get to go along with it.

SPEAKER_04 1:18:24

Outcast do you have another question for uh before I bring one I I forgive me if I go into the weeds a little bit about the meteors but I I I just feel like I want to share this information. A former guest of ours um we haven't talked to in a very long time um Mark Carpenter in a private conversation with me told me one time that um we're if you look at um Serpent Mound Ohio we view that as a a serpent eating an egg but he said that the location of it the location of it is in proximity to a meteorite hit and he believed that it's actually um it it depicts a sperm uh inseminating an egg and that when the meteorites would hit the earth uh life around that area would explode would just go crazy and growth and he said that that yeah he said that there was it's been obliterated now but in the past they know that there was a serpent mound in France right up next to a meteor hit. There's a serpent mound in um is it Bachan or somewhere near um oh uh Gilgal al-Rafaim uh the bottom with all the the giant stone circle there is a there's a serpent mound near there and there's it's also the location of a meteorite hit and I believe there's one in Great Britain but I think there's a total of six six uh I think it's around six or seven known historically documented some of them are gone now serpent mounds and they're all in association with meteorite hits and he said the ancients believed that the meteorite hitting the ground was like it was like the the meteorite was inseminating the ground and the and life exploded in that area and that's what those they're not serpents they're uh they're fertility symbols on the ground I don't know if you've ever heard that but I just thought I'd throw that in there you're making me think of that when you were talking about your your theory with the silicone and I don't know how you want to weave that in but to me it's uh there's something there there I just haven't connected all the dots what's your thoughts on that wow okay I I am my my my brain is doing a little dance right now because I had not heard that excellent uh probably footnote for um future updates to the book yeah that blows my mind you know guys uh well first of all outcast go into the weeds anytime you want because that was fantastic but um you know sometimes sometimes you know when when you're writing stuff look there's nothing new under the sun so Vicky Joy's not going to ever write anything that has never been heard from uh heard about before but what I like to do it's super fun but it's also super scary it's I like to take a whole bunch of things that are already known and already out there and then I like to randomly connect these things that are not supposed to be connected like that's where the the payoff is for me.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:04

And so it's super fun but it's also super scary because then you've got people out there who've never necessarily thought that those two elements went into the same bucket and so then you've got this whole you got your chocolate and my peanut butter you got your peanut butter and my chocolate kind of a thing going on but uh but the thing is is that um when you do put out a book where your heart is kind of in your throat because you're making these connections that cannot be I there's no way to check my work. There's no way to get out a calculator and check to make sure dot A and dot B really do connect. And so um but one could I guess one could say in a sense that every single thing in the universe if you you know bring it back is going to connect right I I guess but anyway when when I put a book out and my heart's in my throat and I don't know how it's going to be received or if the really smart people out there are going to think I'm a numbskull, when I hear stuff like that outcast where some of my wildest hairs up my nose are being corroborated, it just makes me go, yeah, that's that's awesome. And then it gives me the the courage as I continue in my research to just trust the Holy Spirit that when he tells me to write something crazy down to just like take his word for it and write it down but all that to say this blows my mind that serpent mounds are connected to meteorite hits. It's like X marks the spot like they didn't just randomly build serpent mounts like they built them on top of these meteorite hit locations and another thing that that is very fascinating to me that's another dot is that you bring in the the fertility aspect because one thing that I learned from the sleep paralysis research and when you talk to people who have had UFO abduction experience with sleep paralysis uh and when you read tons of ancient Near Eastern history with all the folklore and the gods and the goddesses why does everything come back to sex? It's all of this gods and goddesses you know mating with their sisters and their mothers and it's all the in the UAP and the fleet process stuff it's all this like incubus and succubus and uh and all of the occult symbology like or or symbolism rather like when you when you look at a lot of these occult symbols and you take it back it's all of this this is the vagina and this is the penis and it's all this like it's like who came up with this stuff like a room full of 13 year old boys like it's it always comes back to that. And so again here we have all of these seemingly random things coming together where now even the serpent mounds and fertility and meteorites are connected. I mean it's it these are the kind of things guys where it's so profound but if you go out there in a scholarly circle and try to convince people they'll just think you're a nutcase.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:09

Yeah. You know because they don't think like us. Yeah no they they're they they stay within the bounds of what they were taught in establishment and we're out here getting crazy with it.

SPEAKER_04 1:24:19

So um and what's funny about those sorry Jesse I just guess what's funny about those people is is the the the astute or whatever you want to call them, the the intelligentsia they are being taught information from books from previous writers that they take to heart as religion yet they criticize us for looking at a book and following it as religion which is the Bible and they can't they can't see what we see and and what and what we preach is foolishness to them but it makes all the sense in the world to us. And it's it's and I I I I can feel your enthusiasm and I'm I'm so glad that what I brought to the table was well received because man my in my heart too Jesse knows I have this thought process too Jesse shares it I I I keep finding out about like in Michigan alone ancient sites that scientists seem to want to or archaeologists want to ignore there's a there I don't know if you're aware of this Vicky but there is a stonehenge stone circle at the bottom of Lake Michigan. You can look it up just Google Stonehenge Michigan or something like that. And and and it's they won't tell anybody the coordinates but it's under the water but my greater point is this that alone would completely upends all of their narratives that they taught us in school about the history of the Americas completely. And yet they so they don't so they just don't talk about it. And this to me I mean that stone circle I I could I could probably make a stretch not even a stretch I could tie it into your theory but it all it's all interconnected and it's all the stuff that they won't look at it's fascinating to me. So I'm I'm really grateful for the work that you're doing because I get it. I mean you're praying you're you're you're you're a woman of God and and he's just revealing to you you know these reverent revelatory little moments and they and he's showing you how they connect we don't have all the answers but we're starting to see it. And and the sex thing is interesting too because you're right you know you know we uh we believe that these big a rots that they built um you know the the the Tower of Babel those were built for sex magic at the top to do what? Well I think that the demon when you're having sex the demons can hop in to you to the people um it it thins the veil and takes people probably not to the third heaven but to the second heaven or gives them contact to the unseen realm. So so they know all this is going on and it's interesting it's all like you said it's all like based around fertility. Music lover brought up a point that I've thought about too with those server models. That means the ancients knew what a sperm and an egg looked like which are which is like so you're like whoa so how advanced were they? Well I just saw an article today and they have this lens that they can that they link back to the Babylonian times and they say it's this is the first telescope. I don't know about you guys, but I've never heard in any of my history books going through school that the ancients had uh accurate uh telescopes but they do seem to understand what the stars look like and they know they know there's rings on Saturn and but we were never told about the like it's hard to find a good telescope now that you can buy for an affordable price to look through. And yet the ancients knew all they knew they knew what they would have to have a microscope to see what a sperm and egg looked like they'd have to have a telescope to know what Saturn looked like how did they know all this stuff right it was obviously far more advanced than we're being led on to believe sorry I didn't I apologize for that rant you guys.

SPEAKER_02 1:27:25

No it was good it was good. It was uh do you want to address that? Because I I want to add some stuff to it too but Vicky if you want to address that go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 1:27:32

Yeah I'm loving the way this conversation is going because um one of the thoughts that was running through my head especially Alcast as you were talking about the uh Stonehenge sunken in here in America and you say Lake Michigan. Yeah um yeah I recently did a live stream live stream a couple months ago now where there's actually evidence of a sunken city underneath the Sea of Galilee and it was there in the time of Jesus which makes um The disciples thinking when he was walking on the water that he was a ghost. I mean, like that um that side of the Sea of Galilee had all sorts of superstition. The city was built on a graveyard and all this stuff. But what what makes me think of when you think about things that the the powers that they choose to cover up and um and why they cover it up. And so you let's say you've got all these sunken cities, you know, whether there was an Atlantis or or whatever, um, but you know, evidences of civilization long buried. Now you can you can chalk that all off to nature and how you know obviously um the landscape changes through the years and the trees and overrun things and and whatnot. But if I believe that I'm a god and I want all of mankind to think that I'm a god, and I want them to think that if they worship me, I will make them like a god, then I don't want them catching wind of anything that makes me look weak or defeated by a God stronger than me. And so if you've got evidence of buried cities, because a lot of times these cities, it's they're they're buried out of judgment, you know. Um they it's not just geological changes. Um, I mean, look at the great flood in our own Bible. So that the earth was buried because of judgment. And so I almost wonder if the reason we don't know about the the stone hinges underwater, and I've always been really curious what is what are they hiding um in the Bermuda Triangle? What is the location? What's the what is it about that location that if people were to explore there, they would figure out some of the mysteries that we're not supposed to figure out. Um I I I mean, is every space shuttle in the world down there, or is there pyramids, or is Atlantis? I mean, so let's scare the mess out of everybody so no one will want to fly over it, or same with Antarctica, these places that they either forbid us from going or they scare us out of going. Um I I wonder if these are all of the embarrassments of the enemy, where if we find it, we'll realize you failed. There was a God stronger than you, your civilization, your experiment, it failed. You're it it's ruined, you know. And so uh that kind of thing interests me because I do think that sometimes the reason those things are covered up is because it is evidence of failure.

SPEAKER_04 1:30:35

Yeah, I n I didn't think about it like that, but that's a great point. Wow, that's interesting. I love it.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:41

Yeah, it it it seems to be writing it uh uh uh uh putting uh pieces of the puzzle together for me in my head. Going back to these 200 uh ancient meteor hits on Earth, right? It corresponds with the fallen angels and all these things and these meteor hits, and then you have these uh, like you were saying, outcast, uh very uh very interesting with the uh the serpent mounds and all these, and places of fertility. Well, if you remember uh going back to Sodom and Gomorrah uh and those two angels came to visit Lot, and then the the townspeople wanted to come in and say, we we want to know them. You know, we know we want to know them. It wasn't about gay sex with them. I believe what I've heard before is that it was about they want to have sex with this half angel or angel to create new Nephilim. So if these spots, these 200 ancient meteor hits, have these uh fertility sites with these serpent mounds all around them, that is also gonna be a hot spot, maybe a ley line, where that's gonna be a very hot spot where they can again try to recreate these Nephilim. Because they need these Nephilim uh, you know, back in these days to to help conquer uh what we have going down here. I believe the Nephilim today are very small, but the bloodline still remains. But um, you know, that's kind of my thoughts too, is you know, if it's gonna be a fertility thing, you know, and they're gonna be, you know, in their minds vape mating with a uh uh an angel, uh it in their heads, they're gonna try to recreate what they what they you know the Tower of Babel again.

SPEAKER_00 1:32:16

Absolutely. Or nothing. So this has got me think this has got me thinking, guys, um, so I have some stuff in the book. I have various conflicting um ideas and folkloric um traditions as to what the black rocks in the corner of the kebab are, which is the you know, the black cube in Mecca, and uh all sorts of really interesting ideas as to what those rocks are, where they came from. Some say it's obsidian, some say it's meteors. Um, we're told that nobody knows because they're too fragile and no one can examine them. Well, somebody knows. I mean, the the people that need to know know what it is. But um, I I've always kind of I've I've had some really strange theories with that too. But in light of the conversation that we're having now with the serpent mounds, if if places of veneration or ritual or portals are being determined based upon a meteoric crash, one of the legends of the black rocks of the Kabah are that it they marked the place where Lucifer fell when he fell from heaven.

SPEAKER_03 1:33:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:31

And and then there's um there's talk that if it's if it's obsidian, which is uh volcanic lava, liquid hot magma when it dries, right?

SPEAKER_03 1:33:41

Magma.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:42

And so if you if you go to uh Ezekiel, uh yeah, Ezekiel 28 and Enoch 18 when it talks about the pre-edemic Eden, where it talks about the central mountain, that it's a black mountain that raises to the heavens like a throne of God, and it has lapis-lazuli lava spitting out of it. So imagine uh pre-edemic Eden with uh the figurative King of Tyre um ascending the mountain to interact with God and being thrown from heaven and hitting the earth. What if this lava, this from this volcanic throne um like mountain uh is on him and he shakes that off and and all of a sudden there's this obsidian laying there on the ground? Whatever. It's all folklore. We don't know. There's no way for us to know now unless we find the ancient books and we know how to translate them. But all that to say, what if that kabab, similar to the serpent moon, was marking a uh a meteorite crash? Or and and I mean, I think we all know that they're I mean, they didn't just randomly pick that place, right? Um yeah, this is the kind of stuff that just gets my mind going. It just excites me.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:05

Oh, it does because you do need to write all this stuff down because I'm sure it's gonna make more uh ideas, uh more um, you know, thoughts into another book or a longer paragraph or whatever, because you know, in my head, uh I'm just again, it's I'm seeing all these dots starting to connect. Um, you said now, all right, so I'm just reading directly from uh from from uh your book. It says, we are are we witnessing the return of ancient idols disguised as cutting as technology? I think yes, we've already talked about that, and they love that. Uh, do you sense the growing unease that AI is more than algorithms and code uh that carries spiritual agenda beyond human understanding? Yes, I do too. Yes, and we try to warn people, and then you know, some people call us crazy. Some people it's like, oh, it's just technology, it's good here to help. It's so uh productivity. Uh, you know, your your higher predictive productivity is gonna go go insane. Yeah, whatever. I don't know. What's your thoughts on that, Vicki?

SPEAKER_00 1:36:03

Yeah, so you know, this is interesting, and I kind of want to get into a little bit of human emotion and human psychology here because I think that there's enough collective evidence that we as human beings can know something, we can believe it, and we can have scientific evidence of it, but it doesn't necessarily change our behavior. Uh so, you know, we know all of the statistics on smoking and overeating and eating too much sugar and what it does to our teeth and what it does to our lungs and all this stuff. We know it, we believe it, we've seen the scientific evidence, but we as collective humanity continue to drink, smoke, and listen to rock and roll and eat our candy and rot our teeth and eat too much Taco Bell and all this stuff because ultimately there is a war waging inside of us between our flesh, like Paul talks about it. Like, why do I keep doing what I don't want to do? And it's it's the whole part of the gospel of the kingdom is that you know we're we're redeemed, but we still have to wage war with our flesh. And so where this becomes an integral piece of moving forward into this AI world, because the this AI-powered world, it's they're laying the infrastructure for the B system, and so we know what's coming. And so what what's the more difficult question isn't even discerning the spheres and is this bad, or should I own an iPad, or should I get rid of my phone? That's only half the problem. The other problem is once we figure out, oh no, my iPhone is now a tool of divination and chat, my chat bot, an actual entity. Once we know it, are we going to quit it? And so kind of where even since the book came out, where I have sort of evolved in my thinking about what's the most important question, uh, it made me think of Abraham. Abraham was put to the test, he put Isaac on the altar. Now, God provided a scapegoat, and you know, he's like, now I know that your heart is fully devoted to me. Um, and we can we can use a similar analogy with Lot Lot and Lot's wife. Um Lot was told, pack up your things, get out, run as fast as you can, don't look back. So we are now poised at the same precipice as Abraham and Lot's wife. We are going to have to have, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:44

I'm sorry. Sorry, I'll let you finish.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:47

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:48

I'm having a moment.

SPEAKER_00 1:38:50

Okay, so the question is not is God ever gonna ask me to get rid of my iPhone and my gaming console and my iPad and my laptop and the internet and my chat button. Um He might not. We He might hit a reset button like he did at Babel. The question that we have to ask ourselves and we have to be confident in what our answer is going to be, is if God tells me to put all of this on the sacrificial altar, if he asks me to put my technological Isaac on the altar, whether he actually makes me go through it or not, will I do it? Or when I'm fleeing from the from from the destruction, am I gonna look back longingly at the flames of what I'm leaving behind? And so what we at the church have to ask, because there's a lot of this stuff we can't figure out at what point is the switch gonna flip and is AI gonna be sentient, and maybe the switch has already flipped, and maybe we don't even know it because we're being beguiled, and uh, there's all these questions that require discernment. And we're the the question of the hour seems to be when do we have to to unplug? But what's sad, you guys, is that there is a sadness and a longing and and and a grief in even contemplating that we have to unplug. And that's a litmus test. How dependent upon Babylon's stuff are we for that dopamine hit, for that joy, for that purpose. Um, and and the the real question, the life or death question, isn't is AI going to become sentient and take over the world? Do we have to upgrade to humanity 2.0 to keep up with the supercomputers? The question for each of us between us and the Lord in our prayer closet is if God asks me to put all of my technological Isaacs on the altar, will I say yes? And will I do it begrudgingly or with the joy set before me because something greater than this garbage awaits me?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:26

Amazing. Yeah, that's a great point. I love it. And and I want to say this for some reason I've been fixated on a well-known scripture for the last couple of days and memorizing it. It's Galatians 5.16. So I say walk by the spirit, so you shall not gratify the desires of the flesh. For the flesh desires what is contrary to the spirit, the spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They are in conflict with one another, so you are not to do what you want. I think that the key that the New Testament is trying to teach us is the denial of itself, the sacrifice of itself for the relationship with Christ is the key to winning this battle. What the elites do is they surrender to the flesh and everything that they do. Everything about the conversation for keeping the statement of things right now. So they their side they uh immerse themselves in the desires of the flesh. But we walk in the spirit, and it is in conflict with it. Isn't that interesting? I mean, I I I I've always looked at that as a as a lesson of how to live your life when I read that in Galatians. But now with what you're saying, I I'm seeing it in a broader context than I didn't before. I hope that makes sense. I hope that has value to you or our listeners. But I'm I'm I I just was like reading that last night before bed. I was reading Galatians, and I'm like, now you're making it make a deeper sense because of the I mean, I'm having like a Michael Heiser moment with you right now with everything you're talking about, how you're unrapping this. It's like it's all a preything in the old testament's a precursor to the new testament. It's you you you cross-reference it and you get the big picture. Uh does that have does that have value to you, Vicky? Am I on to it?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:02

It it absolutely does. And you know what, Outcast, it's so funny. Like, I there there's times when I'm doing podcasts and I start to get really passionate and I start to talk faster and talk louder. And what's really interesting, I don't think I've ever clarified this, is uh I'm very radically black or white. There's not a lot of gray area for me, and I I know that I I can be somewhat like um idealistic uh to a degree. And it might sound like I'm sitting here on my ivory tower shouting down at the masses, talking down to everybody. But when I get passionate, when I get loud and I start to talk faster, I'm actually looking in a mirror and I'm talking out of the overflow of things that the Holy Spirit has convicted me of. And I'm just assuming if I have this issue, other people probably probably do too. But here's the deal: this is when I'm talking about all this putting the technological Isaacs on the altar, let me tell you. Um, I have an iPhone and I do all of my work on it. I I mean, I'm just dead in the water when my phone is dead or I forget it somewhere, you know. Um it's I I mean, I do my banking on it, I communicate with all my friends and and I do like my ministry and I, you know, right now I'm doing a podcast. Every once in a while, my my dad gets on this jag where he wants to get rid of the Wi-Fi, uh, the the the phones, and he wants to just um go back to like the dial-in where we plug um into the wall and that we get these totally encrypted phones, and he's wise and he he knows the times we live in. He's my my dad, he wants to protect me. Everything he's saying is right, but let me tell you what happens in my heart. If if you have me hooked up to a machine when he says those things, my heart rate goes up. I start to panic. I, in my mind, the thoughts that go through my head, I turn back into a little kid where I start coming up with a million excuses and almost like rebellion and condescension and things come into my head where I'm gonna know better than my dad. I can't do that. And and the excuses come out and the panic comes out and the anxiety comes out. And those are these mirror moments where the Holy Spirit's telling me, like, really, Vic? Really? It's a phone. You are freaking out. Like, guys, look. 13 years ago, my mom died. Most precious thing in my entire life. Part of me died when she died because memories that I don't have died with her. There's nothing that can be taken from me at this point that's gonna hurt more or be missed more than my mother. It's a telephone with some word games on it and a bank app. I mean, where is all of this passion and loyalty and dependency coming from? That's a reflection of my own heart. That's that's that's a litmus test moment where the Lord's saying, like, uh, this is where your heart's at, Vic. You're literally in panic mode over having to downgrade to an encrypted phone. I mean, so I I just want to make it really clear to everybody that I know that sometimes I can get really passionate and I get excited, and it really looks like I'm lecturing, and I'm really talking out of the overflow of my own self-criticism. Like the measuring rod is is up against me, and I'm falling short of the glory of God in that moment. And so I just I just want to make uh clear to everybody that I'm not saying, hey, you out there, you guys got to start making questions uh asking these questions and put this stuff on the altar. You oh, you people with your Alexis in your house and your Netflix, and look at me, I study the Bible all day. Like I just want people to know that's not what's going on. Nobody uh needs to hear the words coming out of my own mouth more than me.

SPEAKER_02 1:47:06

You know, I love that, yeah. I love that sentiment. And you know what is is I like seeing that that kind of fits with us too, uh, Vicky, is that some of these younger Gen Z kids, you know, my mine included, they grew up well about half the life, half of their life anyway, because we kept uh electronics and all this kind of stuff away from them as long as we could, right? Uh but now they they seem to long for uh a time that we grew up in the in the 70s, 80s, and 90s when there was none of this kind of stuff. Uh one of my daughters got rid of the iPhone, she's got an old flip phone. Um they they pretty much dropped all their social media. Uh they really loved the the thought and the idea of being able to own their own movies instead of renting them. You know, they see uh yeah, I've still got all my my old VCR stuff and my old tapes, and you it's crazy. Drives my my drive my wife nuts, but I I still have all the old stuff. Um there was not not long ago, what last summer or something outcast, uh my phone got smashed and I decided to go a week without it. It was like I was living in 1994 again, Vicky. It was great. I loved it. And we can still do this. We can still make society run. Okay? Yeah. The Amish do it every day. We we can do this. Uh it we we haven't forgotten how to live. Uh it's just these younger ones who are growing up with it right now that I feel really bad for. Uh okay, I see your hand up.

SPEAKER_04 1:49:28

I just want to say also I uh echo that I appreciate your your honesty. I I do it on the show too. I I talk uh you know from what I'm learning in the Bible and sharing it. It doesn't mean that I'm always actually perfectly applying it. I'm preaching to myself at the same time. And I notice what you're doing. We're we're we're sharing what God is downloading to us so that we can sharpen our iron against iron and and and mentally prepare maybe for another message that's gonna come down the pike. The thing about technology that I think about too is I I mean, honestly, if it if it was taken away from me tomorrow, I don't get me wrong, I'm addicted. I mean, I look at my phone a lot. But if it was taken from me, I I don't fear that. It doesn't, it sounds like a refreshing break for me. But I will say this whatever the devil plans for evil, God can use for good. We we all know this. And uh and and I was thinking about this this morning, in fact. I think about how my faith has exploded in adulthood. And in a way, as much as I see the evil of what it's done to young people's minds and to young people's dating lives and everything else, all this other dark stuff that has happened through the internet, um, at the same time, I am hearing biblical content that I did not have access to when I was growing up. My my my bib my biblical content, my biblical knowledge was coming from the church that my parents chose to go to. And it was I don't have nothing against it, I love my children. Church family back there, you know, enough. But some of that doctrine is sleepy time, was anyways. I think they've gotten more in fire in recent years. But the the really hardcore stuff that that you talk about in your book, Vicky, and other guests we've had, like Dr. Laura Singer, all this deep dive, it wasn't there. And I almost don't want to, I almost feel like God was telling me, don't blame yourself for not being passionate when you were younger because you were being spoon-fed of a bland doctrine, a lukewarm doctrine in lukewarm churches. Now the the the internet has given me, uh given us all an access to a much deeper understanding of the unseen realm, uh, not to quote Michael Heiser, but I'm doing that, uh, but to the spiritual realm and the battle that we're in and and what it looks like to pray as a warrior and not to think that we have to perform our way to heaven. All this stuff has become more apparent to me through technology in adulthood. So this is one of those situations where God can use it for good. If he says, hey, this has gone completely dark, we have to get away from it. I think we're, I don't, I don't think you or anybody else is gonna have a problem walking away. But for the meantime, he's using it for another good. I mean, I just saw a video the other day of I don't know how many thousands of people getting baptized in the ocean in California. Well, that that blows our perception of who the people of California are, right? It's we our our perception is is molded by Hollywood, but there are regular people there who are turning to Christ in droves. Would we have seen that? We we may have heard that at one time as a kid, but to see it on the internet is a whole nother thing. So I don't know, just just just think it out loud there. Uh, I love everything you you're saying, Vicky, and everything Jesse's saying. I'm sorry if I'm hogging the mic, but you're just hearing you talk is making the synapses in my brain go crazy. And I love this conversation.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:24

So that's what it's supposed to do, outcast. That's why these podcasts are so powerful. Um, I love it. Yeah, go ahead, Vicky. Let's uh let's hear what you have to say about that.

SPEAKER_00 1:52:33

Yeah, so here's another interesting thing. Um, you know, one of the reasons why I think the younger generations are yearning for the analog life of the 80s that we had. I mean, yeah, the music was great, the movies were great, um, biking out at night until the street lights went off was great, and um the fashion was amazing, and the color and the the leg warmers and the earrings and like I I miss it all, right? Yeah. But I think what what they're also missing, and I think that they're longing for more than the music and the movies and the fashion, is they understand that we had a connection with our friends and our family back then. Like it was around the table, we had dinners together, we were outside on our bikes, and we came home sweaty and dirty and bloody knees, and and um let me tell you something really interesting because you know, uh, there is just a phenomenal, it's it's commonplace now, even in the church, for people to talk about their depression and their anxiety, right? And if if there's all this convenience and innovation and things are becoming easier and there's less work, and we have more time in the man cave and more time with the movies and the gaming, you'd think we'd be more relaxed and chilled out, and there's all this anxiety and depression. Now, there's a bunch of stuff behind that, but one thing that is really, really fascinating is in um when you want to talk about joy, okay, um, and I'm talking like the dopamine is is hitting us, and there's that surge of joy in us. We're excited, we're happy to be alive, the depression and the anxiety is lifted. There is one way and one way only that our brains are fed with what it needs to feel joy, and this is all in secular psychology, it is in books that talk about healing from trauma. Um there is a part of our brain that gets fed through the eye when we are face to face with another human being that cares about us, and their face lights up when they see us, and they smile at us, eye contact and smiling, it sends a message to our brain: this person loves me, this person cares about me. I'm seen, I'm not invisible, I'm not isolated, I'm not lonely, and it feeds that part of the brain, and the joy center of the brain gets filled to overflowing. And so the way that we keep our brains fed with joy is being in the same room with another human being, looking them in the eye and smiling. You don't even have to say anything, and so when you look at the powers that be who know what they're doing, and they know the brain is wired the way it's wired, they know the neurology, they know the psychology, when you are now breeding an entire generation, and you are telling them that being on social media or having friends with screen names or sending pictures to each other or doing video chats or listening to sermons online or listening to all of your theological content on podcasts, these things are all great as add-ons to the real thing. But if we are completely replacing human contact, we're even when we're together with our friends, we're all sitting around a table at a restaurant with our phones on, if we aren't in the same room as other human beings looking each other in the eye, smiling at each other, um, I I will tell you, one of the things that I hear the most often, people um who who contact me, I hear this over and over and over again. It's a theme. Um, I don't have anybody. I'm the only one. I can't find a church. I'm the only one in my family. No one is uh my family is Christians, but no one believes in, you know, the unseen realm, or nobody believes in the cosmology I believe in, or nobody wants to talk about Bigfoot, or you know, and and so what we have is a bunch of people dying of loneliness, right? And even those of us that have friends and have family, and the the the other just debilitating aspect of this AI is that it is substituting what only other human beings can provide. Our our brains, we are literally getting brain damage by talking to screens and machines and chatbots instead of each other. And that's another reason why unity amongst the body is so important. We got to stop bickering over word choices and doctrines and eschatology because if we get to this place, no one understands me, woe is me, I can't find a church. Like we're we are literally signing up for brain damage because we're not feeding that part of our brain. And so we wonder now why do so many of us who love Jesus struggle on a daily basis with so much anxiety or so much depression or so much isolation or or so much rejection. And uh we we have to start taking these things seriously. We have to start conversing about these things. We just have to do better. Guys, I there's a just a part of my brain that just it's a really, really simple five-year-old that's just like, why can't we get along? Why is this so hard? Why can't we just love the people we love? Like, I mean, it's I I don't I mean, I do understand because I theologically understand the fall and I understand selfishness and I understand the flesh and I understand sin, but um they are using this AI against us because what they're doing is they're making substitute husbands and wives, daughters, sons, best friends, um, these jacklops guys, they are getting sophisticated. Uh, they are every time you plug something and they're learning who you are, they're learning your faith, they're learning the things that you like, and they're getting more familial, they're getting more funny. Um, I can absolutely see if you're someone with unresolved trauma, if you're someone who's believing lies that Satan has planted in your head, you're ugly, you're fat, you're worthless, you're unlovable. If if you are entering into a chat spot relationship with your cup half filled and you're isolated and you're lonely, it might not do the trick immediately. But I will tell you guys, these chatbots have the potential of absolutely replacing human relationships. I mean, it's it's downright scary. And I don't even think that that's a comment about the superiority of the binary code, it is telling of how deficient we have become in giving and receiving love from one another.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:08

Beautiful. You know, yeah, you're you're highlighting how we are constantly in need of that that human direct connection, you know, and I think that they know that we need that, and that they know that if they separate that from us, you know, it's it it's it's I I I'll equate that with uh the separation when they try to get our our our children's minds in school and they teach them things that are completely different than what we learned back in school back in the day. They're trying to get that separation so the kids end up trusting them versus the parents to help them with their issues. And uh I believe that this is very similar to what you're talking about. We need that human face-to-face, hand-to-hand connection. Um, you know, it's uh it's it's part of who we are. You know, to be this uh I I've said it before uh a lot, Alcast. I think we are too advanced for what we are born to be. I don't think we're supposed to be in this this far advanced in this stuff. I I don't think we are. Uh, but we're gonna have to go through it. It's written. We're gonna go through all this stuff. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 2:01:18

Something to piggyback on what you just said, Jessia, and I think it I think it does correlate and what Vicky said too, that's kind of hit me. Vicki said, you know, I uh there's part of me that's like a five-year-old that wants to just love like a five-year-old, right? And I think that that's because that's our that's our spiritual nature. We we are, you know, you know, Ephesians chapter one, we are uh we were pre-chosen before the foundation of the world to be here by Christ himself to be holy and blameless in the sight. We are we are human beings having a I'm sorry, we are not human beings, we are spiritual beings having a human experience, right? I say it all the time on the show because it's one of my favorite scriptures. But then let's look at Matthew 18, uh two through four. He called a little child to him and placed the child among them, and and he said, Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven. Therefore, whoever takes the lowly position of this child is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. I think that that innate desire that you have, Vicky, to love like a five-year-old, that's your spiritual nature in its reality. The the the the prince of this world has been trying to beat it out of us. And when you truly surrender your heart to Jesus, you regain some of that identity back. And then that's what when you tap into that radical agape love that Jesus has for us, we share that, and that's that childlike love. And that's how we enter the kingdom of heaven. So um, you know, I just think that there's just a ton of relevance to you saying, hey, it's there's part of me that's a five, you know, and I I feel the same way. I go to I, you know, I love my church family. I have a very small church family that the Lord led me to, and I love them dearly. And when I'm with them, my heart just kind of warms. I just want to hug them all. You know, and and it's funny when you were talking, Vicki, I was thinking, man, I just want to hug Vicky, Vicky right now. She was here in person. I just give her a good hug. You know what I mean? So I I know exactly what you're talking about. I do. I know I I'm actually getting kind of misty. I think about it. It's beautiful. And I'm glad you brought that up. Sorry, you guys, I'm all over the place and I'm talking a lot.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:12

That's good. Uh, you know, we're coming to a close, but there's a few more things I want to just throw in here. Uh, Vicky, do you want to add that to him? Uh Alcast over there crying. Look at him.

unknown 2:03:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 2:03:23

Uh cyber hugs. Um, no, you know what, Alcast, it's funny. There, I mean, there's always like two sides to every coin because on the flip side, I also really want to put up a warning, also. We have very innocent, pure love where we would go and hug and love everybody out there. But we're also called in Proverbs 4.23 to guard our hearts above everything else, guard our hearts where it's the wellspring of life. And there are a lot of broken people out there, there's a lot of people full of bitterness and hatred. You know, I I'm sick to death of the word narcissist. Everyone in the world who's selfish isn't a narcissist. But um, the the fact of the matter is for people like us who do meet someone and we immediately feel warm to them and we have compassion and we want to hug them, if you are opening up too much too soon before that relationship is tested, that's also where people who are very pure in heart get ruined and jaded and hurt. And so uh I do think that it is wonderful that we do in a world that's this fallen, when we can go through decades of hardship and grief and still at our age have an innocence and a desire to love and hug people we barely know, that can also be used against us, and we have to be very careful. And all I can say is I can't wait for the aspects of eternity when we're all in our resurrection bodies, and it doesn't matter what anyone looks anyone looks like. We can all be fat, ugly, disgusting with moles all over our face, or what it won't even matter because there'll be no sin. And that we can just unabashedly pour love upon each other, and no one's gonna get made fun of, no one's gonna get their eyes rolled at, no one's gonna get rejected, and it is just gonna be um we can't even fathom it. We can't even fathom it. And God better give me a bigger, better heart and a bigger, better brain capacity just to live on this earth with all the flack we get and the mockery and the disdain we get from unbelievers to all of a sudden receive that much pure love, we're gonna like spontaneously combust.

SPEAKER_04 2:05:46

Yeah, wait. You know, you know, Vicky, the funny thing, I just I watched a movie last night. I'm not gonna necessarily recommend it. It's pretty it's got a lot of raunch it, but it's uh it's made in Scotland and it was called Filth. And um, it's about this this extremely broken individual. He's a cop. In fact, the the the one of the previews I read said, this this cop is so bent he could sleep on a spiral staircase. That's why I thought that was kind of funny. But it it it shows this guy, this actor, and he is what he's doing is he is playing on everybody else's vulnerabilities and everybody's trust and trying to use it for his own device. Now, it it does uh it does un unravel on him and destroy him, but it's exactly your point. I was watching last night, my wife was like, that that that there is a warning because you you know, you I tend to look at everybody through this loving filter, and she's like, not everybody's like you. And there's people out there that are and it's it's exactly to your point. I mean, we have to guard our heart, we have to be uh wise and discerning, um, wise as serpents, as gentle as doves, right? Um because again, people there are people out there looking to exploit it. I mean, these I don't I'm not gonna say narcissists, I'm gonna say people that have you know uh uh split personalities from ritualistic abuse or something, they're out there and they are vicious, right? Uh they they don't have the same, they don't have the same understanding of love and life and light that we do. But uh I'm sorry, off on a tangent again. But that movie, if you guys want to check it out, it's it's it's that's it's interesting. It's an interesting flick. Um all right in the darkness of humanity.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:13

You know, on your book, Vicky, I'm just reading down here below in the uh in the Amazon uh where you can get it, from uh from Eden to AI, you guys, uh Vicky Joy Anderson. You have uh down here it says it's perfect for quite a few people here, Christians seeking clarity about the technology and end times prophecy. Uh anyone asking how Eden's ancient rebellion connects to today's digital age. I mean, what else do you have as a final thought uh before you uh have to get get out of here tonight? What what who's this book perfect for?

SPEAKER_00 2:07:45

Oh man. You guys, my my only goal in whether I'm talking about sleep paralysis or spiritual warfare or AI or I'm writing poetry, I just want I want the name of the Father to be exalted. I want Jesus Christ to be magnified and glorified, I want the deeds of the devil exposed. I want captives set free. I want people with broken hearts and brokenness and hurt and trauma to identify those lies that they've come into agreement with and to break those covenants and contracts and to see themselves the way Jesus sees them. So all of my books, you guys, no matter what the topic is, it's my it's my Mars Hill. My books are my way of drawing people in. Hey, you want to talk about sleep paralysis? You want to talk about demons, you want to talk about cryptids, you want to talk about AI? Okay, those things are culturally relevant, so let's just start a conversation on it. But be ready for the bait and switch because this conversation is going to end the same place every time. Jesus Christ is the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through him.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:57

Love it. Perfect. Alcast. Hallelujah. Yeah, give uh give us some final thoughts for Vicky and I as she's uh heading out.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:04

Vicki, I apologize if I was too chatty tonight. That was just a sign of how stimulated I was by the conversation.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:09

Stop apologizing, Alcast. We told you. Can't help it. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:13

But I just did it again. I just I'm sorry. Okay, so but, anyways, um no, uh Vicki, I I'm gonna repeat myself a little bit. Um uh so grateful to have you as a sister in Christ in this fight. Uh you're more you're more valuable than gold. Um uh we love you and we appreciate you coming on and and just sharing your insights with us. We I hope the book is huge, a huge success for you. Um, and we hope that lives are changed and touched by everything, every word that comes out of your mouth. Um, you are very important to us. So thank you so much for for being our friend. Um, God bless you, and we hope you'll come on the show again soon.

SPEAKER_00 2:09:48

Absolutely anytime. Thanks everyone in the chat for all your kind words and engaging in the conversation. Love all of you.

SPEAKER_02 2:09:55

Yeah, so Vicky, again, thank you for coming on. I have your book right now as the affiliate item of the week. You guys, from Eden to AI, how fallen angels and ancient idolatry are ensnaring human uh humanity through modern technology. The link is down below wherever you're watching or listening to this. And uh get the book, Outcast. We're gonna get a pair of them too for ourselves. And I just want to say thank you guys so much. Uh, Vicky Joy, thank you so much. And we got to get together again uh with Karen on the show. I think we're all gonna mix something up here. We have an idea, but uh everybody here loves you and uh they're saying we love you, and uh, we'll see you again. And uh just thanks and again, stay dangerous for everything that you're doing, Vicky. We'll talk after this and get your computer up so we can see your face in here with us. All right, good night, and uh we'll talk to you soon. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:46

Good night, Vicky.

SPEAKER_02 2:10:47

Good night. Awesome outcast. There it is. Oh, it is great to have her on again. Uh, even through the phone, uh, it works out. It felt the same. You know what I'm saying? It might have even felt a little stronger because we had to concentrate on the voice. Uh, you know, that that it's yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 2:11:05

I wouldn't be surprised if we went back and we looked at all of our episodes. The ones that had the the biggest technical glitches up front turned out to be some of the most fiery, most entertaining, you know what I mean? So this just we'll put this in that category because you know that was a rough start trying to get her her video to work. And it when it wouldn't, we just rolled anyways, and um still great things came through. So it's amazing.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:26

No, that's how it's supposed to be, man. Uh yeah, you know, we get a resistance from the from from the bad, and we're gonna push through. It doesn't matter. We're gonna keep on pushing through. And I still see uh you know people from Vicky's camp uh out here. It looks like what is that, Martin Notster Marty not Martin Notzirk? We we understand, we just can't say your name, but we get it, Marty. Martin, Martin Otzirk, Martin Otzirk. I don't know. I like it. But uh music lover says, thank you for coming back on the show, Vicky. Uh what an interesting conversation tonight. Definitely need to read your book. May God continue to bless you, our dear sister in Christ. Yes. Um, listen, I I can't wait to get it. You know, when I what a name, too. From Eden to AI. I mean, just think about that. Think about how important that is. Then then go into 1930s uh Technocracy Inc. with all those people who wrote these plans that were being, you know, that that are meant to be put together today and it's coming together just like they wanted outcast. We can't get out of it. We're gonna go through it.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:31

You know, to bring this conversation full circle in the beginning, we had talked about how many of us have felt like we're under a precise attack from the enemy on a regular basis to draw us back into our old self, right?

SPEAKER_03 2:12:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:12:43

If it and and if you look, think about what she's pointing out in this this book. Book here is that it's the same game plan being played over and over again. And it's to draw us back into those old occult rituals of worshiping, you know, carved idols and and you know uh and bronze bowls and all that stuff. It's but it it has to be repackaged, it's just a new angle, but it's the same strategy. It's to it's to get us to revert back to our rebellious nature. And uh Jesus called us out of that. He says, you know, I'm gonna make you into something new, not your old self is dead. Yeah, so when we when we give in to our temptations, um, whatever they are, that everybody's got a lot of them, you know, it's you know, from you know, any type of addiction of any kind, we are it is an attempt by the devil to make us revert back to the person we were, not to the person that we are in Christ. That's crazy, it's nonstop.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:33

You know, um there's some more things that are uh in this, you know, in the description of her book there, and it's you know, I'll just read a couple of them, but this one I kind of like. It's like uh why the spirit of Babel is alive in Silicon Valley. Well, because I think modern times, I mean, we can go all the way back to ancient times and the ancient evil building the ziggurats, you know, with the Tower of Babel up on top, trying to reach back up there. Those they knew what they were doing, they knew they had to get back up, right? They fell that they they landed on Mount Herman, they they came down, they made all the craters. Uh, you know, the the fallen angel. Could you imagine being alive and seeing all this stuff back then? What a crazy time to be alive. But modern day, they think they can use the technology to get back up to to make that connection in because the technology that they had back then, we could never understand. It was so far advanced to what we have outcast. But in in establishment uh education today, we get this little bit of here. You go, here's your here's here's history. There's history right there. Take it and believe it. That's all you get. They leave, oh my gosh. They're they listen, these ancient evil ones are still at it today. They never went away, they're still here. They can't leave yet. They're still here, they're still messing messing with us. Those same ancient bloodlines, they're still here. Uh just it's I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_04 2:15:00

It's just um and and they're serving the same gods.

SPEAKER_02 2:15:03

Yeah, and they're just working through modern tech. You know, I when I when I say this stuff to normies, they're they're like, what get out of here with that? They don't understand it. They they don't like hearing what I'm saying. They don't believe it. They think technology of of today is something that never ever uh you know happened in the past. They act like uh, you know, what today is the greatest advancement advancements in humanity. I'm like, no, you guys, you guys, we're so we're we're go back go back latepe. Exactly, right? All these things. So uh serpent mounds, all these things, you know, it's crazy. So uh Martin says, uh, I I subbed and I liked. So listen, you guys, I'm asking you guys for subs, uh, for likes, uh, because we need the algorithms. You know, these algorithms drive me nuts. I wish we didn't have to do that stuff, but yes, we are begging for likes and thumbs up and all these things. So if you guys are enjoying what you're doing, uh what we're doing tonight, please hit those things, those likes and all these, uh, because it does help us out. Um, we are trying to grow the uh the the uh YouTube. You know, we st I didn't I was reluctant to put this show on YouTube. It's been five years now, Cast, and I just put it on what last year? Uh so we're not even a full year, I believe, uh you know, to uh on Facebook or in YouTube because I know how they treat us. You know, they don't like us, they don't like what they're what we're saying. So anyway, we're trying to get to a thousand as quick as we can, hopefully by next week. Um, but but we probably won't. But that little bit helps. Share it, you guys. Just share the show. Uh again, we're trying to focus uh the the growth on on YouTube right now because once we get that unlocked, it's like levels of a game outcast. You know how it is. We got to play all these silly Atari games with these people. Um, yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 2:16:48

I'm I'm I'm reminded of the 1980s Pontiac Silver Dome uh advertisement for the the tractor pole. Awesome at the end, they would say, Tell a friend, bring a buddy.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:00

Yes, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, all that stuff. Oh man.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:04

Tell a friend, bring a buddy.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:06

Yeah. Uh next week.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:08

That's what you do with the show.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:09

Yeah. So listen, you guys, next week we have um again a reminder. Tuesday is the show, not not Monday, because I'm not gonna be uh able to be uh in studio then. So it's but it's gonna be Tuesday, and we have Charlie Robinson. And uh we are talking about the Rockefellers and what's going on and what they're behind, and things that you probably never realized that they have their hands in affect our daily lives uh even to this day, right now. It's crazy. Uh all seats ten bucks, Vicky says. Look at that, right? She remembers uh let me try it.

SPEAKER_04 2:17:41

Let me try. All seats ten bucks.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:44

Sunday, sundae, sundae. I remember that's awesome. I love those uh old commercials, man. You know what? I'm gonna have to dig some of those up. Remember, I used to play all kinds of silly commercials from Detroit back in the day. Uh I have to pick some up. Right now we have Top Dog, Top Dog Law. You ever heard those? Uh it's crazy commercials right now. It's crazy. But um, listen out, Cast. We've come to the end of the show tonight, the end of the broadcast. Uh, we still have ancient problems to deal with. Uh, and there's no getting out of it. We have to go through these things. You know, it says it in this book right here. This is the book, but I'm saying we have to go through them. Uh, but but I think the better that we know uh what we're about to face or possibly face, I mean we're we won't know until we see it. But but for those out there with concerning uh minds and uh people who want to know, I think we're on the track here. So uh let's get some final thoughts from you tonight, brother.

SPEAKER_04 2:18:40

I'm gonna echo something I said earlier. Um sorry if it's repetitive, but I just want to say it again. Yeah. Uh I'm gonna quote Galatians 5, 16 one more time. So I say, walk by the spirit, so you shall not gratify the desires of the flesh, for the flesh desires what is contrary to the spirit, and the spirit what is contrary to the flesh. They were in con they are in conflict with one another, so you are not to do what you want. Now, after listening to Vicky talk tonight, I just my mind opened up on a lot of levels, and I'm just I want to say this. If we look at how the pagans live, and I and I don't want to be just loose and say, but you know, it sounds like it sounds like a straw man when I say the pagans, but I'm saying if we're those of us who are awake and we understand that at the highest levels of society um they are occultists and the the the the church of Satan's motto is do with thy will. Well, what is thy will? Well, most people's will is with their flesh. Christ is calling us to something higher and better and different. I'm not saying I'm without sin at all. I have my problems and I have the sin that repeats in my life, but I want to remind myself at the same time as I'm reminding you guys when we allow ourselves to backslide in our sinful nature, we are resembling more pagans than the person that we profess is our savior. We have to really stop and consider what we're doing to ourselves and what we're doing to the the witness of Christ. It's it's it's like the owner that has a dog that's not trained, it's out of control, and they and they and they run up and they charge at you and they go, Oh, don't worry about him, he won't do anything. He's and it but you don't know that, and it's it's kind of disturbing because the the obviously the owner does not have control over the dog's behavior, but yet the dog is in relationship with the owner. If we act if we do what we want and we we don't really try to to rise to a higher level, we're like a wild dog running around creeping people out. Yeah, is that a weird analogy? Right? No, but that's what we are. Either either we are in Christ or we're not. We have to we listen, and I'm just like I said, I'm preaching myself because I'm guilty as anybody else with my own sin, but we have to conquer this. We have to continue to have progressive sanctification, allow that to work in our lives because if if not, we are no different. We don't want to resemble these occultists who run the world and are obsessed with sex magic and all the and and and human sacrifice. We're we're I we're we're treading into the very same territory when we succumb to the flesh, because that's what they're all about. But but if we are in relationship with Christ, we should want, we should have a desire to eliminate that stuff. So um I don't know, just uh just start pondering that scripture and just thought I'd share those thoughts. And and I just want to say what a wonderful episode uh with Vicky. I mean, she talked about joy, uh, she brings joy, and and I felt joy. And um it's amazing that her name is Vicki Joy Anderson. So uh it's just super cool. She delivers the joy, yeah. Yeah, she does. Uh you know, just we we love you, sister, if you're still listening out there, and um uh it just I hope everybody else gets that kind of joy out of the listening to this episode tonight. Yeah, those are my final thoughts. Thanks for letting me say something, Jesse. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_02 2:21:41

Oh, thank you. There she is, right there in the chat. She said uh on YouTube, she says, Thanks, Jesse Nowcast. Love you guys. Yes, can't wait to get together again. Um, I you know, big look at cyber hug, right? Awesome. I like it. Um we have uh we have to make that plan because I know Karen was talking about us getting together for something uh that's something fun, right? So and we'll do it one of these times. I'm not sure, whatever, but I got uh we gotta make sure that her screen for some reason didn't connect tonight. Uh, but we'll be we'll correct that before the next time we meet up. So uh yes, music lover. She says, draw near to God and he will uh draw near to you. Um sister. Yeah, look at there's there's our friend how you say it, outcast. He says, So grateful to have found him. Uh you want to take a stab at it? Dang it.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:29

Uh uh Marty not circ. Marty not circ Marty Martin Martin Otsirk.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:36

I'm gonna go with hang on, I'm gonna go with Marty not circ. Wait, Marty not cirque. Marty not cirque. What does that mean? I don't know, but that's where the capital letters are. That's where the capital letters are, see him.

SPEAKER_04 2:22:53

If if there's something we're not getting, somebody's gonna have to so great.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:56

Uh I'm already getting, yeah, no, I'm already getting clowned torched in the uh in the in the uh chats because I can't say these people's names. It's funny.

SPEAKER_04 2:23:04

I can't figure it out either.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:04

Yeah, no, stinky tech demons is right. That's right. That's what I'm talking about. So listen, you guys, I just want to say thank you so much and our supporters out there. Uh you know, subscribestar, Patreon, uh, buy me a coffee, all the places. Thank you guys so much for doing the show. Um, or for supporting the show. Um oh yeah, musical says LOL finally. So I guess it's right. It's Marty not Sir K. That's it. There's capital letters in there. Listen, you you try producing and doing this. Not Marty not Sir K.

SPEAKER_04 2:23:40

Okay. All right, you figured it out, Jesse. You decoded it before I did.

SPEAKER_02 2:23:44

Awesome. All right, you guys, yeah, that's awesome. So listen, please check the item of the week, which is Vicky Joy's book tonight. It's down there in the description. Scroll down and get her book outcast. We have to do that tonight, too. From Eden to AI, how the fallen angels and tech ancient idolatry are ensnaring humanity through modern technology. That's right. Also, our friend Mick and his fundraiser. It's down there, his spotfun.com. Go on down there. I put the link, it's in all the chat rooms, and it's also in our Discord. If you guys want to check that out, please, if you have uh the funds to help Mick uh in his fight tonight, uh we we we welcome you. And if you cannot, you can at least um hang on, you know what? I'm gonna try to see if there's any updates. Is there any updates to this, outcast? So can somebody tell me if we have any updates for I don't know what we did earlier on Mick. Um, I will look and try to try to see.

SPEAKER_04 2:24:36

Oh, yeah, see if anything's gonna be yeah.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:38

Um that'd be cool. I'm looking, hold on, you guys. Hold on one second. I got I I gotta refresh this page, outcast is what I gotta do. Go. Um, I'm still looking. It's trying to refresh, but listen, just go there, all right? He needs some help, and then we're gonna help him. So uh do that, please. And I just again, thank you to Vicky Joy Anderson. Check her out VickyJoyauthor.com. That is uh Vicky VickyJoyanderson.com. Uh, and she is the author. So go check her out our website, VickyJoyanderson.com, you guys. Uh, it was a fun one tonight. Very fun. If you guys are listening to us on uh iTunes, Spotify, Castbox, or any of those, please give us a five-star rating and review. And remember, do not be threatened by the mainstream media fear campaigns. Rescue those in darkness around you. Do not comply with unjust laws, mandates, or regulations, and trust you trust your gut always, because that's taught God talking to you, and he's giving you clues and ideas. God bless and stay dangerous, brothers and sisters. Stay dangerous, and Christ is king. Yeah, go ahead, outcast.

SPEAKER_04 2:25:48

Vicky Joy Anderson, get her book.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:50

Get her boog. All right, then. Good night.