268 "Psyop Industrial Complex" ft. Dr. Sean Brooks, Social Engineering, Mind Control, Title IX Ohio

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Our good friend Dr. Sean Brooks is back on the show again. Tonight we will talk about his two latest Substack articles entitled: "The Psy-Ops Will Continue" https://theamericanclassroom.substack.com/p/the-psy-ops-will-continue and "Through His Teeth" https://theamericanclassroom.substack.com/p/through-his-teeth

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SPEAKER_07 2:08

Institutions become corrupt. Institutional agency I'm thinking of your right. You're living in security yesterday. Welcome to the dangerous info podcast. Jesse James is an outcast. Dangerous, dangerous info. Stay blasty. Battle, battle.

SPEAKER_00 2:58

You're not going to hear this in the US news, but Europe is talking about it, and I think so should we. Pfizer's own toxicologist just testified. The vaccine should never have been approved. Public health turned into a global experiment on billions. On March 19, 2026, the German Bunstag Corona Inquiry listened to the testimony of Dr. Helmut Sears, the former chief toxicologist at Pfizer Europe for 35 years. And in five minutes, he dismantles the process with quiet precision. Essential toxicity studies were sacrificed to speed without acceptable reason, he says. The approval led to prohibited human trials, he testified. He highlights that no full testing to check long-term cancer risk standard with any other drug given to millions was done. Defective rat studies on reproduction toxicity were only simulated, which ignores decades of birth defect warnings that we have had in place and always abided by. Impure production using E. coli bacteria left stray DNA fragments that could integrate into human cells, potentially spiking cancer rates. Pfizer's own post-marketing reporting logged over 1,200 suspected deaths in the first two months alone. Germany's Paul Ehrlich Institute reported 2,133, which is said to be closer to 60,000 true cases, after applying a standard unreporting factor of 30, as seen in the U.S. VARES data. Mortality climbed in 2021 to 2022 over the 2020 levels. Birth rates crashed. Germany down 15% in vaccinated age groups per their own stats, with similar drops reported across Europe and even Japan. No documented positive risk-benefit ratio for the broader population. Others are backing up this testimony with hard numbers. Mathematician Robert Rockefeller calculates 25 severe side effects, including heart damage, strokes, and clots, per prevented COVID case in low-risk groups. Cardiologist Asimelhontra and DPAC Natrogen point to excess cancer in young adults, fertility drops with women reporting menstrual chaos post-shot, miscarriage rates up 20 to 50% in some clinics, live bursts plummeting worldwide. Pattern regulators have tried to dismiss this as coincidence, but when you look at this data as a whole, it's really hard to dismiss. And so where is the American media? They seem to be completely mute on this topic. And you have to ask, is this just because they're too entrenched in the in the conspiracy at this point? I don't have an answer, but I think the victims deserve the whole ledger. Watch the testimony and decide for yourself.

SPEAKER_02 5:58

If you've been paying attention, and I'm sure you have been, artificial intelligence is being boarded upon us as they begin to usher in the transhumanism Internet of Things. But fear not, fear not. We are here to help you stay the course during this dystopian transition. Just stay human, brothers and sisters. Remember, stay human. This is the Danger Simple Podcast Podcast. With Jesse J and Brother Outcast.

SPEAKER_05 6:59

Welcome to the spiritual and the cultural battle of our lives, where truth is dangerous and information is a weapon. Yes, you guys, welcome to the dangerous info podcast where tonight deception is the theme of the night, you guys. Yeah, there's a lot of deception going on. We have to watch our backs. I'd like to welcome everybody in. I see everybody's making their way in through all the chat rooms. Good to see you guys. Everybody listening in the future on audio. Glad to have you with us, riding our riding with us, right? Riding shotgun is what I'm saying. Outcast, tonight we have episode 268 with our friend Dr. Sean Brooks. He is back. Tonight we're gonna be talking about Psyop Industrial Complex, Social Engineering, Mind Control, and Title IX, and how you can use these Title Nines where you live. It's gonna be a good one tonight. Perception hits first, but truth arrives later, Outcast. What's going on, brother?

SPEAKER_03 7:53

How are you doing? Good to be here. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_05 7:55

You know, today is more May 4th, and uh I had a discussion with the wife last week about tonight because today is our anniversary, our wedding anniversary. What? Yeah. Get out. Uh-huh. Yep. How many?

SPEAKER_03 8:08

How many years?

SPEAKER_05 8:09

Uh 23. 23?

unknown 8:13

Ah.

SPEAKER_05 8:14

Well, friend, from 2002. So you do the math. I don't I don't do live math, is what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_03 8:21

We got married in 2022, also. So it's 24, I believe, coming up, buddy.

SPEAKER_05 8:25

Well, it is today. It's 24 today. So bam, there you go. Bruh. So yeah, uh happy birthday to my wife. Or happy anniversary to the wife. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 8:35

You're just getting in bigger trouble all the time. You're doing a podcast on YouTube. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_05 8:38

I don't get in trouble, Alcass. I stopped getting in trouble when I left home.

SPEAKER_03 8:42

23 years ago? Yeah. You got some facts to straight out here, my friend.

SPEAKER_05 8:47

It probably feels like 43 years for her. But uh listen, yeah, thank you guys. Everybody's saying thank you. Or happy anniversary. Thank you, uh, music lover and Jack Pine and uh Amber Dawn and Shelly Polak. Yes, thank you guys so much. Um, so yeah, that that's where we're at. So the show was, you know, I I left it up to her. I said, listen, we're gonna either do it tonight or we can do it Tuesday. Uh, because I didn't want to know, or I, you know, when do you want to celebrate the wet uh the anniversary? Is what I'm saying. So we're gonna do something Friday night coming up. So there it is, outcast. That's why we're here tonight. And uh we're gonna be talking about the PsyOps. Uh Dr. Sean, he is in the green room. He's watching all the all the um the insanity that goes on here with us right now. So um I've got some AI slop up on the screen, and uh, I got called out for some AI slop. Now I just I I don't really use ice uh AI at all, really, other than making these little um what do what do we call these? These images that I make for the show, these these thumbnails and all these things. I just started doing that like a week two weeks ago or something, right?

SPEAKER_03 9:52

I'm gonna call those, I'm gonna call them thought collages. How's that?

SPEAKER_05 9:56

Yeah, pretty much, yeah. That's what they are. But they're just our thumbnails for the show. So I've been just messing around. Uh so you'll see some real stuff mixed in with the the AI slop in there. Um, and so it is what it is, outcast. And and I told the person, I said, Look, um, I'm not gonna stay permanently with AI. You know, I I use it for you know for for some art stuff like this here, but other than that, um, I still will be incorporating like a real pictures down there. Let's see, that's me and you down at the bottom, our real, our real faces. So um, yeah, I'm just trying not to uh get overwhelmed by AI, but I want to know how it works. So learning prompts and seeing how it thinks uh is a good way, I believe, to kind of get into the world of that without being taken over by. We've all seen Terminator and and and iRobot and all those things, and it's all insanity, uh, is what I'm saying, outcast. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:48

Now, since you're the one bringing up sci-fi, all right, you realize you got married on May 4th. There's a lot of Star Wars nerds out here that would have loved to have that marriage date. I know that I know that is it, that is if Star Wars nerds get married. I don't know if they do or not.

SPEAKER_05 11:04

Well, yeah, they do. I'm sure in some nerds, in some sort of uh realm, I'm sure they do. Uh, but yeah, uh so what you're talking about is May the Fourth be with you, right? Yes, yeah. So yeah, I know. We hear it.

SPEAKER_03 11:20

I think you could I think you could have you could have had a lightsaber uh wedding, it would have been amazing.

SPEAKER_05 11:25

Yeah, I know. It's crazy. Yep, it is wild. So yeah, May the fourth be with you, and that's what it's all about. So uh, you know, every time every time it comes around, that's that's what we get. That's a line that people tell us. Look at it's coming up on the screen. Look at Shelly Pollock says May the fourth be with you. And she put her hand like that, like Star Trek, though.

SPEAKER_03 11:43

That's hilarious. I love it when people mix up the sci-fi. Yeah, that's good.

SPEAKER_05 11:48

Let me see. Yeah, there's a lot of people with some one-liners down there. Yeah, thank you guys so much. Uh I appreciate it, and I'm sure she does too. Um, okay, so listen, we have another item of the week this week, outcast. In this week, it's not a book, it's a little something different. And I want you guys to share it or to see it because it's something that I use. And um let's just go to it right now. Okay, so here is our item of the week, you guys. Our Philly item of the week are these USB C headphones wired earbuds. They have a wire in them, is what I'm saying. For Apple, Android. Uh, and what I made sure I ordered because this is important is a 90-degree angle plug-in for your phone. See, it's a 90, see it right there. You can see it on the screen, right? It's a 90, it doesn't come straight down, it comes down and over off your phone. So when you plug it in, here let me demonstrate for you guys. When you plug it in here, it comes out, and that way you can sit the phone. Because when I use it, it's gonna be on my uh equipment, it'll be somewhere in a in a pouch in equipment. So I can't have it straight down, it's gotta be up. So using a 90, and that's why I made this item our item of the week. It is down there in the description. These are the uh wired because I know a lot of people are really concerned about Bluetooth connections in their ears on their head. So wired is definitely safer, uh, in my opinion. And this thing comes with a cool, a very nice little pouch. You'll see this little carry case pouch thing. And inside of it, it's gonna have these small, medium, large little ear cup things that fit in your ear. I use the big ones, so I take you know, that it just so they don't fall out, is what I'm saying. You know, those hard white ones that Apple makes and all that, those things they fall out on people and everything. I've never used them, I don't like them. They're hard. I like these soft things because they work really good. So um let me see, you use those two.

SPEAKER_03 13:44

Uh I use I use a similar style too. Yep.

SPEAKER_05 13:46

Oh, do you? Okay, yeah. And and you know, I can work in 90 degree weather outside and they do not fall out. These are the coolest things. So let's go right back to this right here. Uh, the USB C wired headphones, and they will fit in pretty much everything. Even even cooler, what I like about these, especially for for what I do since I'm out and I'm running equipment and everything. Look at this outcast. I haven't seen these before, but you take them off and you don't want to lose them, right? Well, they magnetized to each other to the back. You see that?

SPEAKER_03 14:14

What?

SPEAKER_05 14:14

Yeah, what's up with that? Little magnetized that way. They can stick together, you don't lose them. If you want to put them around here, see, around your neck, when you pull them out of your ears, yeah, and then you grab it and just pull it off. So they're magnetized to themselves. That way it's easier.

SPEAKER_03 14:29

Yeah, do I get I get the link to those on our um on our gilded, or where do I get the the link?

SPEAKER_05 14:34

It's on everything that we're listening to right now. So wherever you listen, if you scroll down, it says affiliate item of the week. It is the USB C headphones, and um, of course they're in gunmetal gray because guns that's just okay, they come in other colors too. But I I like the gunmetal gray because that's me. And um, yes, the link is down below in the description. So again, like I always say every week, these affiliate things they help us. They give us about 60 cents probably. If people buy them, I'll get the it doesn't increase the price, obviously. I just get a little kickback because we be are an affiliate for them now, and it helps the show, and it's fun because I see in the uh comments right here, uh music lover says, Hey, I'm a fan of wired headphones. Mine are so over the ear, I can't, I can still hear things, and the rubbery things make my ears itchy. Um, let's go over here. Amber Dawn, she says, Oh my gosh, I want those with uh with the wire. That's awesome. My ears are super sensitive, and that is great. Yeah, and you know what too? They have the controls right here. They're they're just down from this one. So you have up, down, off. It'll take a phone call. You can do pause if you're listening to the to the dangerous info show on on your on the run. Uh, and they're just I don't know, they're just safer, they're safer for uh your head. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 15:46

So so you use these yourself, right?

SPEAKER_05 15:48

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_03 15:49

Yeah, I swear do they have really good audio and and music quality?

SPEAKER_05 15:54

They have really good bass to them. Yeah, you know how some of them sound real thin and tinny and and nasty and all that? Not these. These sound bassy, they're real nice. Um, again, uh they're I like them. Okay, that's what I'm saying. So um I, you know, they're just they're just nice, and they, you know, they're 90 degrees right out of your head and uh come with three different uh you know rubber things that you stick in your ear depending on the size. I use the large, like I said, and they're just great. They're only like 15 bucks. So and and the the cool little case. Uh that's that's one of the best things I like about it. So the cool little case, um, you know, you stick them in there when you're done. You can travel with them on plane, whatever. And you know, whatever. They they I like them, is what I'm saying. That's why they're item of the week.

SPEAKER_03 16:37

I'm in.

SPEAKER_05 16:37

Uh so oh, and I forgot to put this up here too. There's our affiliate item of the week. And sorry for hawking you guys, but uh that's it. We hawking and talking I hear tonight. Okay, so um let's get uh let's bow our heads and get prayer because uh Dr. Sean is sick of all this nonsense. All right, let's uh let's get it done, let's get it ready, and uh big show or not, you guys. It's gonna be a good time.

SPEAKER_03 16:58

Okay, all right. Uh dear Heavenly Father, Adonai Al Shade, Yahweh Elohim. Uh Lord, we love you, we worship you, we praise your name. We enter your courts with singing and your halls with praise. Lord, we uh we cannot thank you enough for every basic provision that we could ever need. We thank you for guiding us onto the narrow path with you and being a lamp at our feet and a light in that path. We thank you, Lord, for um just knowing us more intimately than anybody else and speaking to us in those unique ways that only we know it's you speaking to us. We thank you for teaching us in ways that suit our ability to learn. We thank you, Heavenly Father, for um your mighty hedge of protection around our personal lives and our families, but also this podcast. Uh we're asking for a fiery hedge of protection around us, Lord, like the enemy has never seen before. From the rooftops of our homes to the furthest reaches of the of the property line. We pray that the evil ones will be afraid to even come near our homes, Lord. We ask that you send out your angels regarding us, one to stand guard at each door of our homes. We plead the blood of Jesus Christ over us. We ask for your uh blessings upon our lives, your guidance. We pray that you will search us out and and reveal to us any withheld or or uh pain or anguish or unforgiveness that we're holding on to, maybe hidden away that we've forgotten about. Please reveal that to us so that we can exercise and practice letting that go once and for all. We thank you, Lord, for um just uh just teaching us every day something new, those unique and set of ways. Lord, we are yours. And we were bought with a dear price, with the precious blood of Jesus Christ. So have your way in us today, Lord, each and every single day. Use us in some unique way. Give us an opportunity to lift somebody else up. Give us an opportunity to pray for somebody who needs prayer. Give us an opportunity to show compassion to somebody who needs compassion. Give us an opportunity to encourage somebody who needs encouragement. Let us not be shy, Lord, but let us be bold in your name's sake. Lord, we ask for your hedge of protection around this podcast. We ask that you'll keep technical glitches, man-made or spirit-made, away from this program. May our transmissions be clear and concise so that we can convey whatever you pour into us into the lives of the listeners, Lord. We pray for anybody out there that's struggling in their marriage. Lord, we pray that you'll bring reconciliation. You'll help husbands be the husbands that they need to be for their wives and wives to be the wives that they need to be for their husbands. We pray that you'll bring people together. Um, Lord, we for those who you've designated to be single, we pray that you'll give them peace in their singleness, knowing that you have purpose for them and that is their unique, their unique role, that not everybody is meant to be married. For people who are who are uh dealing with financial issues, Lord, we pray that they will relax and rest and trust in you and that you will meet them in their need exactly the way they need to be met. Not everybody on this earth is meant to be wealthy. We do not preach prosperity doctrine here on the show. Uh we know that you can use the rich and the poor. Sometimes I think it might be a little harder for rich people to dial into you, Lord, because they think they can solve their own problems. So we pray that those who are blessed with wealth continually work at staying close to you, oh Lord. Lord, we pray for anybody out there who's um struggling with a family issue, those people who are fighting with family members because maybe they're just too similar and they just clash. Or maybe their family doesn't get their faith and they've rejected them because of it, or they made fun of them. Lord, we pray that everybody who suffers persecution for your name's sake will take pride and joy in knowing that they are set aside for a great purpose in you, and that when men reject them, men and women, the people of this world, worldly people, say no to them, that you have said yes to them. Let them not languish in their sin, let them recognize that they are redeemed in the blood of Christ, they are forgiven, but they also also should have a heart of repentance and try not to continue sinning. Because we're in relationship with you, it's nothing to be taken for granted. And we don't want to hurt you in our relationship. We want to stay in close, close relationship. Lord, we pray for anybody out there who's church hurt, who doesn't like things that they've seen in organized religion or mega churches or the Catholic Church or wherever, if they've been hurt by a church in some way, Lord, we don't condemn them for that. We understand that that hurt is real. But Lord, we pray that you will speak directly into their heart so they know not to forsake a relationship with Jesus because of something that they didn't like in religion. We pray that they will not throw the baby out with the bathwater, that they will they will see the need for being close to you. And then maybe from there, when they receive the healing of Jesus Christ in their heart, they will start to look once yet again for that church that suits them, that they will not give up and forsake gathering together as we're supposed to. Lord, I have an internet friend. I've never met her in person. She's in Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Um her name is Landy. Unexpectedly today, her um her nephew died at 22 years old, Lord.

SPEAKER_06 21:48

Horrible.

SPEAKER_03 21:49

Um He's got two little ones, two children. Uh the family's just trying to process this, Lord. He had a tragic life to begin with. His dad died when he was a little boy, and now he he's he's left us too, Lord. So Lord, I'm asking for the peace of the Holy Spirit to rest on Landy's family right now. May they just sense your peace and your presence in the midst of this adversity. May they turn their hearts towards you and not away from you as they suffer in this pain. I'm not telling them, Lord, I'm not saying that they can't feel the pain, they can feel it, but I pray that they'll rest in you and and reach out to your hand for support and the shelter of your wings as they try to make sense of this uh this tragic loss at a young age. Lord, these things are hard for us to reconcile when young people die. But Lord, um because of his uh his father's early death and hit this young man, his name is Curtis, Lord, because of Curtis's um early death, we wonder, maybe is this a generational curse, Lord? So we pray that in the name and the power and the blood and the authority of Jesus Christ that you will sever any generational curse or stronghold of iniquity on us on this family's line. Maybe there's been a a curse, a hex, a vex, uh uh sorcery, witchcraft, something, a spell that has been put on this family, Lord. We pray, we declare victory in the name of Jesus Christ that this is severed here and now, that no more members of this family will ever suffer from this premature death situation. Maybe it's not has nothing to do with that, Lord. Maybe it's just random. But if it is, Lord, we're just covering it in prayer. We pray that you will cover, uh, shelter and cover Landy's entire family in the precious blood of Jesus Christ, Lord. Armor them up from head to toe. May they grow stronger and more resolute in their love for you than ever before in the midst of this adversity, and may you they take away the lesson of compassion for other people who have suffered similar losses. May you build them up. In a way that they become the perfect advocate for other people who are suffering. Lord, we thank you in advance for answering these prayers. We pray that you'll be magnified and glorified in all these things. Lastly, Lord, I want to thank you for our friend uh Sean Brooks, Lord. He I call him Dr. Sean, but he insists he's Sean Brooks. Dr. Sean is uh has a brilliant mind, Lord. I know you know him well. You knit him together in his mother's womb. He is uh he's not just a friend, a respected friend, but he's just he's got a profound mind. And he does not tolerate injustice and the shenanigans that this evil system tries to impart on the people who pay taxes to it. He hates it, Lord. He is the ultimate Ephesians 5.11 warrior. Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose it. And we thank you for him. He encourages Jesse and myself and everybody who listens to him. We are so grateful that he wants to come on our humble little show, Lord. And we ask that you anoint this gathering for every listener that feels they feel just welcome in, uh welcomed in as if they're sitting around a table with us discussing these things, maybe a campfire, like like Jesse would say. We're all just sitting around right now. And impart upon us wisdom that you want us to say, things align our hearts and minds with your heart and mind, Lord. So that we say things that convey those that people need to hear, things that encourage them, things that inspire them, things that get them agitated to the point that they want to do something about it. Lord, we thank you for every one of our listeners. God bless them all. We love them, meet them in their needs. Thank you for Sean. Thank you for Jesse and his his obedience to put this show together and allow me to be part of it. Thank you for everyone that supports the show in any way, shape, or form. Bless them all greatly indeed. We love you, Abba Father. In Jesus Christ's holy precious name, I pray all these things. Amen.

SPEAKER_05 25:15

Oh, awesome, brother. Thank you. Amen. Everybody's saying amen to you. And uh uh that's right about Dr. Sean Brooks. We call him doctor, but he uh he likes to be called Sean. But um man, nice, nice prayer there, brother. And uh praying for that uh the family of the the 22-year-old uh that died too young. Uh I forgot his name that you said. Uh his name's Curtis. Um Curtis, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 25:40

And and just to just some some context, um, it was the strangest thing. I was on Instagram and I kept seeing the same person liking the same videos I was liking over and over again. Sometimes I see you and I see music lover, I see dirt, you know, I see that. But this is a person I didn't know, and I kept seeing so I just thought, all right, this is a God thing. I'm gonna reach out to her. And she's she thinks just like us. She is uh she's in down the Nephilim rabbit hole. She uh she's a believer, she's a sister in Christ. And I just reached out and said, Hey, I noticed we're liking the same things. I just want to say hi. Uh, and I told her about the podcast. She might be listening right now, I'm not sure. Uh, she said she was gonna try to tune in.

SPEAKER_05 26:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 26:13

Um, but um, that's how I know Landy. I don't know her personally, she's just a random friend I made on Instagram.

SPEAKER_05 26:18

So yeah, I hear you, brother. All right. Well, prayers out to Landy tonight. All right, thank you, outcast. Awesome. Uh, and I know those things get tough, you know, those those those prayers do get tough and they hit us in different ways, and I appreciate you and what you're doing with those. So uh let's uh let's get on over to our our guest tonight. We have Dr. Sean Brooks, you guys. Listen to what I'm saying, all right. Tonight, our good friend Dr. Sean Brooks is back on the show, and we're gonna be talking about his latest two Substack articles entitled The Psyops Will Continue. Uh, there's the link for that, and the other one is called Through His Teeth. We're gonna be talking about both of those, and they're both linked tonight down in the show. So after you hear this, you're gonna want to go over to his Substack, check it out, click it. It's the American Classroom on Substack and his website tonight, Dr. Sean Brooks, the Americ uh American Education FM.com. Dr. Sean, welcome back to the show, brother. It's been uh it's been too long, it's been four months.

SPEAKER_01 27:16

Thank you for having me again. I appreciate it. And again, your intros are awesome. I'm never tired of them. I absolutely love them. I absol actually happen to be using very similar headphones every single time I'm on your show. Oh, nice. Uh love them to death. They don't magnetize, but they're they're they're designed exactly the same way. And uh yeah, my prayers to the Canadian family as well for their loss and and that pain. That's um that's no good. And unfortunately, again, regardless of the circumstances, that seems to be a recurring theme here. Yeah, certainly given the elements of of everything that people are experiencing. So, yeah, my best to them.

SPEAKER_05 27:55

You know, you've been writing so many uh your uh and happy anniversary, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 28:00

Sorry.

SPEAKER_05 28:00

Yeah, thank you. Awesome.

SPEAKER_01 28:03

If I'd have known, I'd have said, hey, maybe tonight's not the best night, but uh he sprung that on me, ladies and gentlemen. I had no idea. So yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:10

Well, I did clear it, I made sure everything was all good. I usually try to do that. Uh if something's coming up like the week before, I'll try to, you know, hey, what do you want to do this night? This is coming up, so uh it worked out, so it was all good. Um, but yeah.

SPEAKER_01 28:23

One last thing about your wife. I've only I've only spoken to her once. It was in your truck when you were driving away from the uh the Oxford school board meeting.

SPEAKER_06 28:32

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 28:33

And uh we you called her, she called you, and she was watching live, and I'll never forget she said, Wow, you scared the shit out of them. Something like that. And I and I went, Well, that wasn't the intent, but you know, it was it was interesting, and she goes, Oh, they seem terrified.

SPEAKER_05 28:51

Well, you know, uh we outcast. I do remember when we went to this, so you we should probably get into it a little bit. Just just cap this off because we never actually did talk about it on our show, but we did with your show. Remember, I I went back on yours, and uh so let's set this up a little bit. You came up here, uh, that's when we were doing the whole Oxford stuff. That was it was hot and heavy in in the Oxford um community. Outcast. We did some shows with the uh the Truth for Oxford people, and um Sean ended up coming up here to say, Hey, I'm coming up, we're gonna go to uh one of the meetings, school board meetings. I'm like, all right, uh, there's a hotel right down there. I'll pick you up. We're gonna go, we're gonna get some dinner. And um, I can't believe how long these school board school board meetings last. And it's all from my observation, they just all they're doing is patting themselves on the back for how good they're doing, and uh you know, for for you know, putting on so many things and sending kids to all these parties and and you know, just dumb stuff like this, right? Um and they try to extend it so long that they want to make people leave because they know at the end when people come up to talk on the microphone, they're gonna get razzed hard, and they try to avoid that, right? So um Sean let them have it, and uh they weren't ready, they were not ready. Um, there's more to it. I'll let you finish it off and then I'll add some if if we have to, but yeah, go ahead uh with Sean.

SPEAKER_01 30:20

It was a it was a long meeting, and the public comment section wasn't until I think the very end. And it of course I think they readjourned and met a little while later after they kicked us out, yeah. And then uh, and that was kind of the end of it, but it was at least a three-hour meeting. And like Jesse said, it was loaded with backpatting, and we're the greatest thing since sliced bread, and nobody's better than us. And yes, we made a mistake over here, but don't worry, we'll fix everything. And I remember a part of it too where they were talking about all of the sick teachers that they had, and that and that endless teachers were out sick, and they had to call school off for that Friday. And I was just like, hello, is no one connecting any of these dots as to why all your staff members are sick all of the time and you have to close your buildings? But uh, yeah, I got up there because in their previous meetings, they were just talking very I would say haphazardly, uh, in my opinion, about the shooting that took place there and the lives that were lost, and they weren't getting down to the brass tacks that when when things like that take place, and that was not a psychological operation from the standpoint of it being planned, I don't believe, by any stretch, and it certainly happened, which is awful.

SPEAKER_05 31:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

But never let a crisis go to waste is always a thing, and they certainly used that crisis they so they thought to their advantage. And one of them, unfortunately, which happens a lot, is to uh is to basically deflect from any personal responsibility, and they don't hold themselves accountable. And then I went up there and I not only did I of course say that you know you're all guilty, but I just said you have to understand you're being lied to, and that as unfortunate as this event was and it happened, not all of these are real, and they're used to manipulate people into accepting policy and procedures that are no good. And that's when all hell broke loose because I just said not all these school shootings are are real and many of them are fake. And that's when one of the board members used the word she didn't say triggered, activated was the word. Yeah, she said, Well, you're activating some of the members of the crowd. And I turned around and I was like, Oh my god, they're leaving. And this just row of women just stood up and they just immediately started leaving and then they started shouting.

SPEAKER_06 32:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:44

And then a cop came up to me and he was like, It's time for you to go. And I was just like, Well, my time just started. And then, you know, and then I got up and I I started walking out, and Jesse was in front of me, and we walked past, and the group of women, at least a couple of them, openly said to the police officer, who again was they were, I mean, they flanked me. They were in front of me, behind me, the whole thing. One of the women said, Can you keep him away from us? Yeah, because they felt threatened. Like my my mere presence apparently uh threatens the unknowledgeable, which is hilarious. So we make our way into the parking lot. Uh like I said, Jesse's in front of me, and they followed us to the cops, followed us to the parking lot. They took pictures of his truck, and then I turned around before I got in his truck and I said, Enjoy the Matrix, boys. And I got in his truck and we drove away.

SPEAKER_05 33:34

Yeah, it was wild, man. It was so crazy. Um strange. Outcast, do you remember any of this when that happened? We I oh yeah, we kept you in the loop, you know.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

Yes, and and I love hearing it again. Uh, it's I I relived the whole thing over again. There's so much to unwrap there, too. It's like, even if let's say if you didn't believe what Sean was saying, that the that the school shootings aren't all legit, right? They're not real. Um, why is that police worthy? And why do you have to leave if you hear it? I don't I don't I don't get that. It's like it's kind of like it's it's his right to freedom of speech if that's what Sean believes or if anybody else believes, right? But they want to shut that down, which tells me you you protest a little bit too much. Yes, you know what are you trying to silence? Why why was why is this so threatening to hear words, even for the ladies? Keep him away from us. Why? Because he has words, yeah. Words are hurting you. Where are they hurting you? Tell me where they're hurting you.

SPEAKER_05 34:28

Yeah, where on this doll does it hurt. Yeah, it was nuts.

SPEAKER_03 34:31

Where are the dolls? Where on the doll did the words hurt you?

SPEAKER_05 34:34

Yeah, it was it was so wild to sit there because you know, me and you were sitting near each other, we're like I think only a seat away, right? Getting ready. And it took them forever to call your name. And as you were talking, you know, I, you know, so you go up there to that table and I'm looking around the room. You know, I'm trying to read the room because I don't know exactly what you're gonna say, uh, because we didn't talk about it ahead of time, whatever you had uh, you know, the thought of your your speech, right? So um I'm kind of reading the room, and the whole night that that one cop that now remember you guys, these these these cops that were there were um uh had not in uniform, they're playing clothes. And the one cop, I kept an eye on him, he was over there by the stage. You know, it's we're in the cafeteria of the of a elementary school. So the old curtain is there and the stage is there, and you know, the the linoleum, you know how it looks. I'm just setting the scene, and he just keeps the whole night looking around, like, yeah, yeah, we're we're keeping this whole place safe, we're keeping it safe. And his buddies over there, and they rotate every 15 minutes, different positions, right? And um when you got up, I was like, all right, I made made sure I I I knew where they were just to I want to see the reactions when you started saying stuff. And it started like you said, it started with the the the the the school board that was up in front of us. I don't know whether 10 of them, 11 of them, something like that. And they're the ones that started getting real uncomfortable. Seats start moving, you know, getting like this. And then some of these ladies that I started looking in the in the rows next to us, and we're in these silly little chairs, and um they were getting real uncomfortable. They were that some of them stood up. As soon as you started saying some of these, you know, Parkland, that was a fake shooting, and and we have this, and that they got triggered because just before that, the whole Alex Jones Sandy Hoax thing was was coming about. Remember that? And uh people, you know, that was hot in the in the ether at the time, that you know, that whole Alex Jones thing. And uh, when you started talking about that, these women just lost it. And you know, I brought up COVID too. Yeah, you brought up COVID saying COVID was cozen, wasn't it? Wasn't it was fake, there is no COVID, and and all these things, and these people were just uh gnashing at the teeth. I don't understand if they don't like it. They were saying some stuff that I didn't like either, but I didn't act like that. Okay, uh, I just was okay, whatever. And uh waiting, but they would not, you know, I think what it gets five minutes, everybody gets five minutes to talk, maybe three. I think you lasted 45 seconds, and uh because you were just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. Saying like you were talking to them like you were talking on your podcast, right? And to us, to us listening, it's like, yep, I agree, yep, yep. I see oh, I remember that, I remember that. But these people have never heard this before. No, and it just exploded their brain cells, man, and they just let us have it. And once they realized that me and you were together, you know, that uh all the cops just escorted us right to the bumper of my truck. It's like this is so dumb. Like, yeah, like you said, I I I I kind of wanted to ask the cops what it why what he say, why you know, can you guys not understand what he's trying to tell you? What's so bad about this? But I didn't say anything. We just we got in high five, laughed, and we went and got a pizza and a beer. It was so funny, you guys. It was crazy.

SPEAKER_01 37:52

And there was a huge thunderstorm that night, arguably one of the biggest. I mean, I've been in some big ones, but that was a big one. And that was the biggest one, one of the biggest ones I've been in in a hotel room. And I was awake until three in the morning, full of adrenaline. Yeah, I mean, just to the brim with adrenaline, writing the substack about that particular uh that particular evening in that board meeting. I downloaded the video and then I clipped it, and then I put it in the Substack, and again I fell asleep at three in the morning, woke up in a pool of sweat, woke up at maybe like six in the morning, got three hours, and then uh immediately got an email that morning from a friend of mine in Canada who's been on my show, former uh truck driver before the COVID lies. She would truck up and down.

SPEAKER_05 38:40

Yeah, it was live streamed. I forgot about that. Yes. Keep going.

SPEAKER_01 38:42

And it it was uh it was, I mean, she was just like, I read your Substack, watched the video. That was absolutely incredible. Great job. You know, you scared them to death, but they need to hear it, XYZ, and you know, praying for you the whole thing. It was great. But yeah. Again, one of the one of the horrible things about that psychological operation, too, as far as COVID was concerned, and you can hear it in school board employees' uh mouths, and I mean you hear it all the time because they say the same thing every time, is they refer to COVID as a time period. Yes, yeah, always so they say, Well, during COVID, well, it was COVID. So they're just like, Well, everybody dealt with the same thing, and it's like, no, not everybody dealt with the same thing. We watched you behave in a way that was completely unnatural. Yeah, and you still now use it as an excuse. And every every time something doesn't work out for a school district or for them personally, or whatever, they just pull out the old COVID rag and they wring it. And they're like, Well, you know, COVID. It's like, come on, take some personal responsibility, learn.

SPEAKER_05 39:46

You know, that that statement right there, the phrase that they always like to say, and we hear it pretty much every day. Uh, even outcast during COVID, when people start sentences like that, it just drives me nuts because I'm always yelling at whatever the radio, whatever I'm hearing. Uh, it's like, no, during the scandemic or during the plan or or during what during that time that you guys I don't know, I'm just crazy like that. But um that that bothers me.

SPEAKER_01 40:13

During lockdown. During lockdown, yeah, during all that. I keep hearing that too. And I want to jump through the screen and shake them and say, What lockdown were you talking about?

SPEAKER_05 40:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:22

I mean, some of us weren't sitting in our homes going, Oh my god, what's government gonna do and how are they gonna save us?

SPEAKER_05 40:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:28

I mean, it just didn't happen.

SPEAKER_05 40:30

It was wild. Um, but yeah, I'll cast any any thoughts on that before we get going on the other stuff. Uh that that whole school board meeting during COVID was crazy.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

I mean, I there there's a guy going around on the internet right now, I've seen where he they kicked him out of a sh uh an event like that because they didn't like what he was saying. And then he he got some legal action going, and then he went back and he had meta glasses on so he could film everybody's faces and up front. And he's just going, he goes, and he was going, You're not gonna do anything, you're not and he looked at the cop and he goes, You can't do anything and you know it. He goes, You guys were against you know, we're worked against my rights last time. I can say whatever I want up here. He went back and confronted them again. I it almost seems like there should be a somebody we could pay full time to go and hassle these people because they are really stepping on people's rights. I don't know where they get this idea that they can control thought or words. It's it's it's absurd.

SPEAKER_05 41:19

Or vehicles.

SPEAKER_03 41:19

Um or vehicles or whatever. Well follow you out and take your picture picture of your car. It's it's it's it's not it's not legal. And somewhere they felt empowered that they they they're they're doing this takeover, they're gonna take over the school systems, they're gonna they're gonna put in data centers, they don't have to listen to you. I mean, I've been to school like uh like city board meetings in my neighborhood, and they just snicker and laugh as people make their you know express their concerns.

SPEAKER_06 41:42

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:43

Who who pays who here? Who they they have gotten way out of they've they're way out of line. It's and and people like you and uh you know, Dr. Sean and you, Jesse, for doing that, that's something that needs to be done on probably on a regular level, you know, regular cycle because um these people have gotten arrogant. They think that they control thoughts and words and they can act offended by anything, anything that they're offended they don't like is offensive to them. That's kind of crap. It's like you don't have to agree, but you don't you don't have to be offended. So, anyways, just just thinking out loud. Sorry guys, but yeah, that's I'm glad you guys say that.

SPEAKER_01 42:17

You're right, and they manipulate their policy to accommodate their lack of understanding. So then they'll go from, well, we're gonna move the comments section first in the meeting instead of at the end, because they don't want the people making comments to hear anything that they say after the fact. Or they can comment about anything that they want to after the fact as a board, and then again, they even limit the amount of time, or they'll take the live streams off of YouTube or whatever. I mean, that's what the local school board in the town where I live attempted to do. And then we exposed it, and then they were like, Well, we're not gonna do that now. It's like, okay. I mean, but this is what you know, this is what they this is what they do instead of asking questions in those environments and bringing in people to have a dialogue and even have a back and forth. I mean, they don't even do that in city council meetings or school board meetings or anything. It's just the person from the public tells the people behind the dais what it is that is going on, and then there's no question and answer. So, yeah, it's totalitarian, I think, but it's you know, par for the course.

SPEAKER_05 43:22

You know, uh so that's gonna lead us into the PSYOP thing. Now, you have written um a great article, you guys. You gotta go get on his Substack, the American Classroom, uh at Substack. And uh, I'm just gonna read an intro for it right here, uh, um, Dr. Sean, because that way we can uh get people to read it and you can kind of get into it. So uh it is called the PsyOps Will Continue. Um, and we you know, we've done a lot of these Psyops shows in the past, and it sounds like they're not gonna end, right? So they just keep hitting us with them. Uh, I'm gonna read this little beginning opening that of your substack um where it talks about the uh the following passages it's an excerpt from the text title entitled Psychological Operations in Guerrilla Warfare. It was a 1984 CIA training manual prepared for the Nicaraguan Contras. Uh, in part, it stated the following. And here's the quote, you guys We could neutralize carefully selected and uh planned for targets such as court judges, cattle judges, um uh state security officers, uh CDs chiefs, etc., for purposes of psychological effect. It is necessary to take extreme precautions, and it is essential to gather the affected population together to attend, taking part in the act, and formulate accusations against its oppressor. So you can tell that this stuff uh is very deep, it's well planned, it's thought out, it goes into the depths of our own government, black ops kind of thing, uh, black money budget stuff. We're talking CIA, deep things, things that movies are made of, you know, in the sat psycho uh psychologic psychological operations. Um and we just had the the latest one with the White House Correspondence Dinner. And uh wherever you want to lead us down, uh whatever path down uh you want to go to, Dr. Sean, please uh let's get into the sciat bonanza.

SPEAKER_01 45:19

Well, I I would say first, just with a little history, that uh psychological operations, of course, are not a new thing by any stretch of the imagination, and they don't even uh they're not even limited to uh the twentieth century. Right. They they predate Christ. Uh Walking Earth. And so we're talking about 500 BC, give or take, around the time of Sun Tzu. He understood exactly that you had that there's all deception in war, of course, and that you have to use it to your advantage as much as humanly possible. And if you can do it without fighting physically, then so be it, because that's the best war to win, is one where you don't have to physically fight. Again, almost too many examples to bring up. There's also very famously, as many of the memes will state too, Vlad the Impaler. Um, very quickly, just to give you a timeline on that. Again, this was 15th century, but Vlad the Impaler was he was outnumbered, or Vlad the Third as his real name was. And he was outnumbered, and he was protecting Christian land from the Ottomans as much as he possibly could. But he knew that he was outnumbered, and the people prior to him had been killed. And so, again, famously he would put dead bodies and individuals who had been killed from previous conflicts, and even the dead who lived in the area where he, of course, was defending. And then even people who were criminals and people who were not criminals on stakes. That way, when foreign invaders would come in, they would physically see this horrific image and the all of these horrific images which stretch for miles. And then they would go, I think we're going to turn around. I don't think this is the person to attack. Perhaps we should we should leave. That's used in methods like that, visual psychological operations are used all of the time. As we know, there's written psychological operations as well with the media where things are printed all of the time and they're not true. Or they're done in order to sway individuals into believing particular things. Of course, very famously, leaflets coming out of airplanes as well. The term propaganda has been, in my opinion, falsely attributed to some individuals in the past, like Edward Bernays, if I'm not mistaken. I think he was the individual who's who's who allegedly coined the term. But it's not a bad word. There's good evil good propaganda and evil propaganda. I did a whole episode on it, and anybody can look that up if they're interested, just using those key terms. But they used leaflets during World War One from Europe to Great Britain and dropped them over the sky and openly said, We don't want war with you. We are we we want peace. We want your country to be your country, we want our countries to be our country. You know, that that's the way that we would like things to be. The same thing happened in World War II. German army flew leaflets over the Great Britain to try to warn the people of Britain look, we're not at war with you. We don't want anybody to die. Uh, your media is corrupt, your bankers are corrupt, your politicians are corrupt, and we're trying to live peacefully here, so don't attack us because we don't want to attack you. That that isn't taught in school. That's just not brought up. And that's the sad part because what goes on today is not understood by many. And what percentage doesn't understand what's going on today, I'm I don't know. I think that's the million-dollar question. But there have been endless examples in in physical war, and then of course, other forms of war where manipulating the mind is is always the tactic. But the question becomes why? Why what what specifically is going on behind the scenes all of the time that would allow something like this to take place and who's in control and who isn't? So I don't I don't know how much against time you want to spend on this because I know it's it's been drawn out by endless people, but I'll I'll start with uh with the uh the press dinner just very quickly. You could smell that this was going to be a psychological operation or that something was going to happen simply because of the fact that it was the first one that Donald Trump was going to attend since being president, even dating back to 2016, uh when he was first elected. Sarah Sanders very famously showed up to the first one in 2017, if I'm not mistaken. And the media uh destroyed her and made fun of her and made fun of the administration, and she sat there on stage looking very awkward and like she didn't want to be there. It was rather obvious. And then that was it. Then their entire administration stopped going. And then, of course, the COVID thing stopped that from happening as well. And uh, and they just weren't they weren't well watched or well known about. And then the tick-up on this one started to happen, I would say, probably a month or two months, maybe probably just a month before it actually took place. And again, Donald Trump was like, Yes, I've been invited. They invite me every every year. I've said no, but I'm gonna go this year, and it should be interesting in XYZ. And then, of course, people started saying, Well, it's the first one he's been to ever, and he's gonna give a speech and he's gonna be on stage, so this should be interesting because he hates the media. They, of course, are the enemy of the people, and many people are well aware of that now. And then during all of that talk leading up to the dinner, it was um it was reported that the media was going to be staging a protest, that they were gonna have their own little psychological operation, and they were gonna walk out. At the moment that Donald Trump's speech was gonna take place, a hundred some odd of them were gonna stand up and leave. So the table was set to control the situation from a separate angle, and then run with that angle, and basically no pun intended, but play a trump card and trump what the media had planned. Now, here's the interesting part about that particular operation because I was watching it live and I went, okay, here we go. That there were shots that rang out, there were four shots. Meet people in the media instantly said they heard four booms, and that ties directly to cue posts. You know, whether what are the odds of that? Um, and then at the same time, you started to see individuals jump on stage and then randomly wave their guns around into the crowd, and then one of them would turn on a flashlight and then shine it right at the crowd. And I went, wait a minute, you don't do that. We're all gun hunters. You don't go, hey, I hear something. Let me grab my gun and you know start waving it around in the direction where I'm hearing things, even though it's going across everybody's faces. I mean, you don't do that. So those guys were there, in my opinion, because those were some of the PSY-op operators there to ramp everything up and make everything look like a situation was either out of control or what have you. Now, going back to, and then of course, there was the guy on on the stage recording the entire thing, cool as a cucumber. Yep. He just leans back, everybody starts scrambling, and he just turns and he just goes, He's picking it all up. He's just going, yeah. He's just watching the whole thing. He sees JD Vance run off the side. He's sitting right next to JD Vance, he's gone. Then he's on Trump and he's just watching them. And there's another guy on stage, cool as a cucumber, not moving, wearing a tuxedo, the whole thing. So are they there because they don't care about the president and they're trying to watch him get killed? I don't think so. I think that it it's uh it's designed because it's theater to a great extent.

SPEAKER_05 54:14

Yeah. Uh we I think we saw the same thing, uh, outcast. When we started seeing the anomalies and the goofy things that were going on, it's like that just doesn't seem proper. Like you wouldn't act that way. Uh, you brought up those psychological operators dressed in uh plain clothes, but they wear um a battle vest and sometimes a helmet uh in a huge backpack. And you know, they're they're running around with their M4s. Um, those are the same guys that we saw at Butler walking around the stage when when he went around and said fight, fight, fight. I they are dressed the same. That particular group of those guys. I don't know if that ties anything, but uh outcast, what's your thoughts?

unknown 54:53

Dr.

SPEAKER_03 54:54

Sean, so if this is uh, you know, we all agree this is a psy-op, but the question is depending on what camp you're in, what is the end game of this particular psyop? I mean, I know there's that's a it's an overarching psyop, but this particular chapter, uh, a lot of the detractors are saying that um you know Trump just wants to his ballroom, which isn't just a ballroom. We know it's a it's a bunker, it's uh it could be more even more than that. It could be uh you know an AI-driven data center underneath. There's all kinds of speculation about what this is this thing really is. Supposedly it looks like Solomon's Temple, and and he immediately comes out, all the press all has the same uh talking points, you know. Oh, this is a proof that we need a new ballroom. Uh that's that's the detractors. But from a from a cue vantage point, what is the end game of this particular psyop in your opinion?

SPEAKER_01 55:43

I think that there's almost too many angles to even bring up, to be honest. I don't think that this is a singular thing, but I will say but I that I agree with you. Clearly, the the narrative of we need a ballroom, I mean, that was obvious. Yeah, I thought. I mean, okay, he's he's the there was a court order that came down that was slowing the progress, then this happens, and he says, you know, I wasn't supposed to say this, but in the press conference that night, he says, This is why we need a ballroom, and then it's like okay, and then people just ran with that. But there's the angle too that you're waking people up to PsyOps by using a PSY-op, and that's a big deal because on the Butler thing, for the very first time ever, you had people on the left, and that was before the election, people saying this was staged. Yep. I remember wait a minute, I've never heard any of these people bring this up regarding anything in the past ever. And now here they are, and they're saying it's staged. Now, me personally, and this is my uh personal take, I would love for them to take that energy and turn it into fake school shootings and go back in time on all those things that they once believed. I mean, they can go back in time as far as they want, yeah, but they hate Donald Trump so much and the administration so much and us so much that now they've arrived at, well, they're all faking it. It's like, well, wait a minute. I thought you called us conspiracy theorists for bringing up things that were staged.

SPEAKER_06 57:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:17

So who's the conspiracy theorist now? So it's it's gotten to the point that one, the Charlie Kirk thing, this, it's getting stale.

SPEAKER_06 57:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 57:27

With, of course, us, and then it's getting stale even with people who really disagree with us. And that's interesting. It's confusing and it's a mind-bender, and it uh it's exhaust, it's exhausting, but it's working because now they've got endless videos of endless people who had never thought about this before, thinking about it for the very first time. And that's kind of cool in its own right, because people are waking up to the fact that false history is a real thing.

SPEAKER_03 57:59

And and one thing is for sure, once you realize you've been lied to about one thing, it's a house of cards. Everything comes into question. Everything.

SPEAKER_01 58:07

Yes. Yep. You know, I'll tell you what, that very quickly that leads me to this. I'm gonna plug two books. They're not mine, but these are monumental books in my awakening. And uh, and this first one, both of them are written by James Perloff. This first one is called Truth is a Lonely Warrior. I highly recommend anybody and everybody read this book. The copyright on this was 2013. I read this in I think the fall of 2014 or the spring of 2015. And it goes through psychological operations, it goes through false history, it goes through the corruption of the medical industry, uh, vaccination. It directly quotes endless doctors talking about the fallacy of vaccination and the whole thing. I mean, it is it's a book I'll never get rid of. It's a book that I'll just always own and never sell back. Um, and then a number of years later, I think this is 2019, was the copyright on this one 13 Pieces of the Jigsaw, also written by James Perloff. Great book. Um, goes through again false flags, psychological operations from a historic standpoint, and it ends with um the kickoff to the Revolutionary War, and how that entire story isn't what people believe when it came to who shot first and who was where when the shot heard around the world occurred. And the fact is, is that that was also motivated by us. We shot first, we shot the British first because we had to get things rolling, because they were making inroads a little bit at a time, and uh, of course they had the numbers, and so we need to we we needed to get the fireworks show started, and and we did. And so that leads into that as well. But those are those are just two examples of two books that if anybody's interested in in reading, and then you'll want to share it with people, I guarantee it, then uh I highly recommend those. But yeah, so again, regarding the uh the White House press dinner, the full video of the surveillance footage that came out actually shows the shooter casing the joint 24 hours earlier. So then a person would have to ask themselves, do you believe that the military would put Donald Trump in a position and the people immediately around him who understand what he's doing and they're all working together and they understand what's going on? Certainly from I would say like a Rico statute kind of thing that they're building against very bad people. Do you think that they would put him in that hotel without watching the security footage or having immediate access to the security footage of the same hotel where Reagan was shot outside, and they and they hold these events? They probably knew that this guy was there, they knew he was armed, and they had eyes on him, and that's why he didn't make it very far. Um now he didn't get shot, which I find interesting, all unless everybody taking the shots was just a bad shot, but he was moving quick, so I mean hitting a a moving target isn't an easy feat necessarily. But uh it again, it doesn't mean that it doesn't mean that the good guys who are watching it know every single thing that the bad guy is going to do, but it it means that they've prepared to insulate the people who need to be insulated so that if and when something does happen, they can take it from a five to a ten very quickly, and then convince another a number of people in the room that what went on was unknown to everybody when in fact it was probably known, certainly to the security detail and the people immediately around Trump. Yeah. Again, did the did everybody in that hallway know that this guy was there? Probably not, but there were probably a couple, and so that's why they were stationed where they were stationed close to the door and the staircase, which led to the ballroom and the whole thing. So yeah, yeah. I mean, there's a lot of ins and outs, and there's a lot of reasons why they take place, and some of them again are for votes, some of them are to sway the public in particular directions. I think we're past the point of this unifying people. Oh, yeah, you know, these uh yeah, I think I think that's gone, I think that's gone stale because it's reached a point where you have too many people questioning the veracity of the entire event at this point. So it's not like this is going to continuously galvanize the public. It's basically a movie we've seen before. And so we walk into the room and we see the movie playing and we go, yeah, all right, we got it. Now let's just, you know, get on to fresher business. So my my take has always been, and I'm not the only one who said this throughout history, but the truth is the best propaganda. That if you just tell the truth and you consistently expose the enemies, yes, they're gonna deny it. But if you tell the truth and then you provide the evidence and then you make an arrest, then it becomes undeniable to everybody. So, my hope, along with everybody else, I think, is that we're the reason that it's not being discussed as truthfully and as honestly up front as we would like is because there's something else going on that is ensnaring a lot of other people who knew that that kid was there, who knew that that kid had guns, whether they be members of the media or they be other individuals who were in the room or people communicating, whatever. But uh it would it would just directly imply that they're catching people. And they're catching people through text messages, emails, private conversations, other online formats where they're communicating um anonymously to some extent, but they have their you know, they have their IP addresses and they know where they are and they're tracking them and all that stuff. You would hope that that's all all going on.

SPEAKER_05 1:04:16

Yeah, my guess is probably it's all been recorded, but whether they do anything about it or not, who knows? Um, you know, you that that can go all the way back to the the the the garage or the yard party at the uh the capital back in uh you know uh whenever that was 2020, right? It probably could go right back to the Capitol party. Um also when you you guys brought it up, you said uh that the left is starting to notice these psyops and things. When I noticed them starting noticing these as well, I was like, well, awesome. Welcome to the party. I'm glad you guys are starting to understand it. Now take it further. I would love for you guys to go and take it further. Start, I don't know, start at JFK, start at who are the Rothschilds, start at something, whether uh, you know, it's it's the government doing uh you know, poisoning people or something. Start anywhere. And like you guys said, when you start down one of these rabbit holes, uh you're just gonna keep going down other rabbit holes. Uh you should anyway, right? Uh and and then you will actually learn that the media is not to be trusted, right? The government is lying to you. Uh that the actually they're trying to kill us. Uh, that's that's my narrative when I come out of these things. So um it just it's it's almost like one rabbit hole leads to another one, and eventually it's just so big. But yeah, every now and then you still got to come out and touch grass and check everything out, what's going on on the surface, which I think we do a good balance of that, all of us, right? Um, when we see these people, like you said, uh it came up in the text. Um, Dana White, he was having a great time watching it. And then Erica Kirk, she takes off down the hallway, saying, I just want to get home crying and all this stuff. It's like, wait a minute, you guys are just sitting in the same place, uh, and a whole lot of people sitting around, you know, still there drinking their wine and champagne and you know, taking the bottles and hiding them and all this stuff. It's like, wait a second, there's a bunch of people who already know that something was gonna happen and they're here to enjoy it. The other people had no clue and just took off uh like crazy, like those people in in the Oxford school board meeting. It's just it's wild um to see all this come out, you know. And and again, popcorn is ready on my on my table. So um, but yeah, I'm enjoying uh you know hearing you guys hash this out, and everybody in in the in the chats are they're they're seeing the same thing. So uh we're still gonna see these psyops coming. Uh there's no way these things are gonna end. Uh they're gonna be used for again, like you said, good, good and bad. Uh it and it might take a while to flesh out whether uh these things are good and bad outcomes. Uh people die. We see that. You know, presidents die. We see that. Uh I don't know. What what we need better psyops. That's one of the best things that we we ever talked about on this show, isn't it? Outcast. We need better psyops, we deserve them. Uh here, let listen to this.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:12

We demand better psy-pans.

SPEAKER_05 1:07:14

Right. I mean, that's go ahead, outcast. Take it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:18

No, um, you know, for us who have been awake for a a while, we do want better psy-ops, but these are really dumbed down, and it's because such a large portion of the populace is so completely clueless. You have to make it elementary level. They are I mean, I I talk to them on occasion in my offices, and they just some people are just clueless. They just don't get it. They don't but you know, it's funny. Um, you know, you know, I I I remember what my slow roll wake up was. The first thing was I I I went to go see a friend of mine do a lecture on the mood landing being a hoax. I had no um I had no opinion on the matter. I didn't think I never considered being a hoax at the time. This is many, many years ago, 20 some years ago. I went to support him doing a lecture at a public library. And I went there with a very open mind, um, or just a blank slate, and I left there pretty much convinced that we didn't go to the moon. You know, I mean, I was convinced. My wife also, we were just like, oh my gosh, I've never seen any of this data before, and this is amazing. And it's actually some stuff that he touched on that I still don't see really in regular circulation right now. Um in the in the typical arguments against the lunar landing. That was the first wake up. And then a little while later, I was watching, I know I hate this channel. I I've always hated it. I've always smelled the the the scum on it, but it's uh I was watching the History Channel. Revisionist History. It was doing, I think it was the History Channel, they were doing a special program, like a series, on how Hitler would have escaped World War II and made it to South America. And to me it became very obvious that they they needed to lie to us that Hitler was dead because for the greater good the populace needed to think that Hitler was dead because they didn't want Nazism to rise again. Okay. So they they let him escape, let's say, or maybe they facilitated it, who knows? But they needed to say that for the greater good. And then I'm like, okay, then why do we lie about going to the moon? Well, oh yeah, I remember when I was a kid, it was a space race against Russia, and it was a moral victory for the United States. Oh, there's another greater good. And then those two things steamrolled in my mind. So you know, the for the normies out there that are completely asleep on all this stuff, to wake them up to one thing, and even if it means that it's a they think it's a get drump moment in the process, uh, at least you start to get them to think. That's the that's the that's the essence of this whole thing is think stop listening to narratives and think. I'm personally pretty shocked with with a lot of this stuff that's going on right now with let's say um Charlie Kirk, for example. Um people that I love and respect who are very intelligent people, they cannot they will not concede that something is shady about Charlie Kirk's death. They refuse. And I try to say to him, I'm like, listen, do you agree as a gun owner that a 30 odd six would have taken Charlie's neck, like would just like vaporized his neck pretty much? Yeah. Okay, so if they lied to us about the caliber of the gun that hit him, what else is a lie? That's but then but I think for him, he's thinking, my friend, I'm in, I'm thinking of it right now, he's like, I can't go there because this is what's dividing MAGA. So now they've got him stuck in this he refuses to look at facts in front of his face because he's afraid of what it's doing to the movement. Now there's another thing, I'd bring up MAGA, I'm just a stream of consciousness, guys, for just bear with me for a second. This is an interesting thing to me. I've been pondering lately too. What does MAGA stand for? Make America great again. There's nothing negative about that moniker. That is a very positive moniker that nobody can find argument with. If you really think about what's this, why are you objecting to making America great again? And they people can't argue that. But if you turn make America great again into a into MAGA and a movement, and then you the you morph the definition of MAGA into a cult of people who who believe only one narrative and will not leave that box, now you've just smeared the entire concept of making America great. That's a that is a profound uh psyop in itself, in my humble opinion. I don't have an agenda by saying this, it's just something that's been uh hitting me really hard lately. It's like, wow, they've managed to smear the concept of making America great. What how do they do that? Well, they made some ridiculous psychological operations that certain supporters support no matter what without questioning, and now you've done it. You've just discredited that you discredited an entire concept, which is a good thing. Wow. I mean, does that make does that hold any value for you guys? What do you guys think of that that rant?

SPEAKER_01 1:11:45

Go ahead, Jonathan. Yeah, I think it's I think it's designed also to to show people that catchphrases and slogans are that, like you said, their own psyop in themselves. I mean, people who you know, tomorrow we have Ohio's primary where Vivek Ramaswamy might become the gubernatorial candidate. Uh, he's a nightmare. I've brought it up on your show before, written about the guy numerous times. He's an absolute nightmare. And the MAGA logo would say, well, Vivek's MAG, so you don't like Vivek, therefore you must not be MAGA. And it's like, wait a minute. MAGA is a catchphrase. It's a slogan. I understood why it was being used back then, but it's not a blind believe everything that sits underneath that umbrella. Because that in itself is, again, I think designed to wake some people up. But that's also detrimental because it's a dimension of thinking that a lot of people can't make. They can't make that leap that I'm not supposed to be MAGA, I'm supposed to be America, I'm supposed to be God, I'm supposed to care about humanity, what's right, low taxes, uh, enforcement of the law, and making sure that criminals don't receive a hand up and a hand out all of the time, and then of course make their way into office. But yeah, those slogans unfortunately can be for the lower common denominator, which is a bad thing, I think, to an extent, because it goes stale after a while.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:21

But I'd like to uh you brought up Vivek's uh Ramaswamy, the snake. Uh and I want to bring something up real quick. I've played it before, but since you're, you know, you guys, did you vote yet in the primary between Vivek and uh what is uh uh put uh puty puts, yeah. Well, let's listen to uh Vivek uh the snake uh mimic another snake real quick.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:50

So first let me just address a question that is on everybody's mind at home tonight. Who the heck is this skinny guy with a funny last name, and what the heck is he doing in the middle of this debate stage? The hope of a middle worker's son who dares to defy the elements, the hope of a skinny kid with a funny name who believes that America has a place for him, too.

SPEAKER_05 1:14:15

Right, exactly. So it's like um there he is again. Um if you guys vote him in, if he wins, man, I don't know what to think about Ohio, but you guys have something, you know. I want to see Casey Putsch win. Sorry. I just want Casey, uh, you know, their state uh that connects to to Michigan here, and uh uh we we need a strong base here uh in in the in the Midwest.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:42

It'll it'll show a great deal of the brainwashing, I think, regardless of the outcome, and it'll show, but certainly if Vivek wins, and it'll show how many people are not awake, which means it's just not time for a Casey Putsch yet, which is unfortunate because we're running out of time, I think. I'm not saying that to be a doom or anything. That's that's not the point, but it's like how how much worse can can things get? Property taxes, data centers, I mean, you name it, school levies, the whole thing. How much worse can it possibly get before people don't have two nickels to rub together? But as long as you know Vivek's helping people and he cares about America, um, how much more can people possibly take? So again, Vivek Ramaswamy was in lockstep behind the scenes in Ohio with Amy Acton, who was Mike DeWine's health director at the time during the COVID lie, and he was making Vivek was making copious amounts of money on um what was it, compute computer programs that were weeding through people and tracking people and trying to determine who's been vaccinated and who hasn't, and who can go back to work and who can't. I mean, he was in on it. Now he wasn't necessarily in on it going, well, everybody needs to take their vaccination, although he probably did say that, but he was in on it for all the wrong reasons. When people like us were standing up and screaming at the top of our lungs, stop falling for this lie. He was out there making copious amounts of money on it. So yeah. Little tangent on Vivek, sorry. Yep, no, it's all right. Just on the eve of a very rough, uh, rough day tomorrow.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:22

Um Sean.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:23

We need a Victory. We need a win.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:26

Sean, I've had a weird sense for the last, I don't know, eight to ten years that that the globalists have their eyes set on corrupting Ohio to take it over. Do you do you have concerns that there's voter integrity issues that could be going on with this whole thing too? I mean, is that something like if if Vim Vivek wins this primary, do you sense shenanigans at all? Is that is that a concern?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:48

Yes, a hundred percent. I remember again when when 2020 went down, and then most of us around here were like, well, wait a minute, Donald Trump clearly won. There's no way that uh that Biden would make even the slightest inroad. That makes no sense. The economy was roaring, um, corruption was being highlighted, and things were things were you know getting back on track, so we thought there weren't lockdowns, there was none of that. The masks, even in 2020, were were um reaching a fever pitch where people wanted nothing to do with them, but the shots were just starting to roll out, but it still didn't make any sense. And then Mike Lindell, of course, gave all the presentations across the nation that he did. And then it got to a point where you had citizens for the very first time in the state of Ohio calling not just their representatives, but their county commissioners and and county individuals who were in charge of the elections. And they're saying, hey, we're watching these presentations with Mike Lindell and other people. Uh what what machines are you using? I mean, we use Dominion machines here in Ohio, by and large. Now it's not everywhere, but again, Mark Zuckerberg had a had a big influence on politicians here and paying them to use particular equipment. And then, of course, push media lies and media narratives and and XYZ, but you had local again officials basically saying, Oh, don't listen to that pillow guy. Yeah, don't listen to him, don't worry. I'm a conservative too, you are also, don't worry about it, everything's okay. I mean, that was a big red flag for a lot of people, and that was six flipping years ago. You would think that people would learn about fraud and fraudulent people running for office, and they would look at a Vivek Ramaswamy and an Amy Acton and say, You're being lied to again. Don't fall for this this time because there's another option.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:47

And Casey Push is the most logical option because he's the most down-to-earth dude. So I don't know. It's gonna be interesting.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:58

My conservative red pill Ohio friends, they had their hackles up about um, or their their senses were tingling about DeWine a lot. I know DeWine was a big issue. Would you say that he was the beginning of that kind of shift towards like the the Whitmer style conservatism that actually is seated with some kind of like agendas that was selling Ohio out? Would you do you is there a connection there?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:23

I think it probably goes back way before even George Voinovich. And that's a name that hasn't been brought up in a long, long time. But vo Voinovich, of course, was the governor here. I mean, you can pick a governor in a state. As far as I'm concerned, they're probably all dirty. Why wouldn't they be? And then again, when Dewine or when Kasich rolled in, he rolled in after Voinovich, if I'm not mistaken. Um, I could have that wrong, but Kasich was the governor for a while. He brought in, you know, the Fox News crowd. Well, I had a Fox News show and you know, real American whatever with John Kasich and whatever the hell the show was called. And people voted for him, and I did too. And I thought, all right, he's a staunch conservative. He cares about fraud, he cares about America, lower tax is great. Who'd he turn out to be? I mean, he turned out to be a Donald Trump hating, yep, hard left wing nobody.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:12

Eating, eating and uh eating live on TV with food coming out of his mouth and all that crap. You guys remember that's what kind of ended his run.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:20

Right. Trying to run for president to escape prosecution for crimes because he was panicked and whatever else.

SPEAKER_06 1:20:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:26

And then DeWine rolled in, and he has so many dirty ties to Haiti and Uranium One and a number of other things, human trafficking. I mean, he facilitated Joe Biden's uh introduction of human trafficking from Mexico and Canada right into Ohio, and then right up 75, right into right into Michigan. And uh, there you go. Yep. And you know, he's he's been worthless as well.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:53

You guys, there's some major thunder rolling around here. I don't know if it's in Ohio, but right if you guys can hear it or not, uh through this microphone, that's what just alerted me. Major thunder is rolling in right now. So if we lose connections, it might be something like that. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:06

That's what that's why I left. I don't know if you guys saw me leave the room. I was trying to shut some windows because it was rolling through here, Jesse. It's there, if you look on the radar, it's very spotty.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:13

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:14

It's gonna, it's good, not it's not sticking around. It's very hit or miss.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:17

Okay, sorry about that.

SPEAKER_03 1:21:18

Um yeah. Sean, thanks for connecting those dots for me. I, you know, I know that because it's your your home base is Ohio, that you'd be able to clear up some of that. I just know bits and pieces of it, so I appreciate that clarity. So, Jesse, where do you want to go next?

SPEAKER_05 1:21:31

Well, with uh we need to move over to the next uh article that uh Dr. Sean has. It's called Through His Teeth, uh, the American Classroom uh Substack. Right here, you guys, check it out. Uh, a horrific detail to the uh uh sexual assault allegations of Ohio Elementary Principal Jason Murr. Now, I think you broke one of these stories here uh about him uh doing what he did uh to these kids, allegedly, right? Um, and I think that uh well, this is a follow-up to that. There's been a lot of things that have taken place over the last year with this case of Jason Murrers. Now, I'll look so I can let people know where to uh if you want to go back and listen to one of the other ones, but uh um I'll look at it right now while you're talking, Sean, and uh bring us up to date on what is the latest. And this is a Title IX case, which you're probably gonna have to clear up and explain to people what is the Title IX and how it can be used for anybody, really.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:32

Sure. So a while back, it wasn't that long ago, maybe a few weeks, maybe a month, something like that. I had a listener of my show, and uh, and they said, I would love it if you just spent a whole episode on what Title IX are and how and get descriptive with them as as much as you can, a Title IX investigation. And I said, I think I've brought it up on my shows previously, um, but I sent them some of the Substack articles regarding the MERS situation. And so, just as a quick little history lesson here, I'm just gonna run through a couple of things. Title IX was basically a uh a subchapter and an amendment to the education amendments of 1972, which were put forth by Richard Nixon. Specifically, Title IX, though, became a section where it says the following here quote uh no person in the United States shall, on the basis of sex, be excluded from participation in, be denied the benefits of, or be subjected to discrimination under any education program or activity receiving federal financial assistance. So its interpretation at the time, I don't want to bring in the word feminism, but uh it was it was clearly designed to give endless people rights, which is a good thing, but it was catered more for adults at the time, specifically again, any environment receiving federal funding. And as we know, schools are that way. It wasn't until the mid-80s to late 90s when Supreme Court cases started to come out a little bit more, and Title IX definition began to broaden itself into sexual harassment between students within these environments, sexual assaults, um, and a number of other things related to that. Not just between students, though, but between co-workers within these environments and even education staff members towards students. And so that's where you started to see in the early 2000s a lot of the sexual harassment professional development that started to show up, even in online form, because of course the internet was around at that point. But uh they would have people get online and start taking sexual harassment surveys before employment and say, if you were in this situation, what would you do? And if you were being harassed or you had witnessed um, you know, harassment or a sexual assault, or you heard of one, what would you do in those situations and who would you report it to? Because legally you're a mandated reporter, so you have no choice. I mean, you have to go to authorities and then report this and then they investigate. Now, there's so much corruption with mandated reporting that we could be here all night. But just because a person is a mandated reporter, and many people are counselors, therapists, hospital workers, nurses, you name it, all these people receiving federal funding, and all of these people who are in positions of of so-called authority where they're listening to minors or other adults talk about being abused or harassed or what have what have you. Again, sexually assaulted, raped, it runs the gamut of of types of assault. That just because they're in those positions doesn't mean they're going to report it. And just because they don't report it doesn't mean that the right thing is going to happen. Because once it gets reported, you're trusting everybody through the chain of command that they're all going to do the right thing. And that's just not how it works. I mean, you're listening to a guy who reported the sexual grooming of female students at the hands of adults in a in a middle school. I told administration and they buried it, and then they came after me. I told the police, and the police looked at me and said, You'll lose your job if you if you keep mentioning this. That that's the police saying that.

SPEAKER_06 1:26:41

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:42

And then they fabricate um investigations regarding me, trying to make me look like I'm a terrible school teacher, and then, you know, years later, two two State Department of Education investigations, and here I sit with all of you. Wow. I'm not making this about me. I'm just saying that's the level of corruption. It goes all the way to the top and all the way back down. And every school year, sometimes multiple times a year, the school psychologists will show up in in the faculty room wherever they all meet as a staff, and they'll say, Okay, you're all mandated reporters. Now, if you witness something, and this is the important part, if you even suspect that there's been child abuse, you have to report it. The problem is that the school system is designed to paint themselves as being the most morally sound and ethically sound environment. And as we know, they are not, which means when you are a mandated reporter in these environments and you report it, in many cases, retaliation is the very first thing that takes place, and they come after you. Now imagine, again, you having to report against a school principal, a major administrator, maybe a union representative, somebody who seems to have a lot of clout in the building because you've witnessed them do something that they shouldn't do. Then you're then it's a matter of your conscience. Do you have a conscience or don't you? And as it turns out, unfortunately, in my opinion, the vast majority of people who work in the education business are void of a conscience. They don't have one. They don't have an inner monologue. They don't they don't go, wait a minute, I'm a mandated reporter. I just saw that. I have to report this and I have to and I have to do it now. They run a thousand things through their head. I have a mortgage. I can't lose my job. I can't be retaliated against, even though in the state of Ohio, retaliation can be easily provable. Certainly losing your job after making a mandated reporting situation would be clear retaliation. But it's against the law to retaliate in the workplace against individuals, certainly mandated reporters. But all of that stuff didn't stop the local school district in the town where I live. So just to refresh the story very quickly, and then I'll get into some of the details as to what's happened over the course of this entire year, the last 365 some odd days, which oddly enough, it was just two or three days ago when all of this actually first broke.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:15

Well is that when I was told when I was go ahead.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:18

Well, I was just gonna tell people, you know, uh we talked about this when it started a year ago, May 5th, 2025, on episode 206. Uh it's called Expose Them, featuring Dr. Sean Brooks, pedophile apologist, blood types, and plain instance incidences. So if you guys want to catch up, go back to 206. All right, Sean, sorry about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:39

You're good. So because I said earlier that if in Title IX you talk about harassment or assault between students, most parents are completely unaware of this. That they can request a Title IX if their child is being bullied because by law their child has to be safe in that environment. And if you can prove that their life is being threatened, they're being sexually assaulted, they're being sexually harassed, and you can prove all of this, at least to the best of your knowledge, you hope that the right thing is going to happen. So there are two different forms of Title IX investigations there's an informal Title IX and a formal Title IX. If any parent suspects that something has happened that is abusive. Toward their child or has left their child unsafe, then they should request a formal Title IX because an informal Title IX means that the school district will investigate itself. Well, I don't recommend that under any circumstance. They're in charge of the security footage, they're in charge of records requests, what you see and what you don't see, what you find out and you don't find out, and a thousand other things. So you always want to request a formal Title IX investigation. And you do it in writing over email, and then you make a phone call. And this is usually done through the superintendent, the building administrator, usually the building administrator, sometimes the treasurer of the district. Point being you want to let everybody throughout the entire district know that this is going on, certainly the HR director for the district, because you don't want a building to hide it. You request it, and then there's a meeting that takes place between the accused, the accused part, the accusing party, the parents typically, and they're allowed to bring a representative. That representative can be a lawyer, that representative can be the other parent, the spouse, it can be a friend, it can be anybody who's familiar with the process, anybody that they trust. And then a meeting takes place, and then you have that meeting again, typically with the HR director, and then with somebody else, it could be multiple people, but somebody who is assigned as the Title IX coordinator, which is typically an administrator of some kind. And then you lay out the allegation, and then they get the ball rolling as a school district. And what they do is, and this is where, again, a conflict of interest can rear its ugly head throughout this entire process, but they they contact a law firm, typically their law firm, because the school district is the one who's ultimately being investigated. Did they not do something? Was there something that they were negligent in? Was it one of our own employees who was negligent in the process, what took place? So they contact their law firm, and then their law firm that represents the school district contacts a Title IX investigator who is typically a lawyer, someone who has experience investigating these kinds of things. Certainly an investigator, if not a lawyer, but usually a lawyer. And that was the case in this case. And it turns out that this particular investigator is a female who's located in central Ohio, and she had done other Title IX investigations within the same school district. I'm aware of those, and they were open and shut cases in the sense that they happened. But that's not how that's not how the next phase ruled. So when the formal Title IX kicks off and there's an investigation that takes place, this investigator interviews the parents, typically, of the child or the complaining party. They interview the child formally also. They record all of this, and then they will ask, who else should I talk to who knows about this? And typically the parents in those situations, and certainly the child, certainly if the child is still alive, may have other names of people to talk to or people to ask questions to, at which point the investigator will reach out to those people. Regardless of who they reach out to, there isn't a single person who is mandated by law to talk to that investigator, including school employees. They don't have to at all. They can just say, they can not answer their phone, they can email back and say, sorry, I don't want to participate. And this happens throughout the process, which is disturbing. What's also disturbing is what happened in this case, from what I was told, which is that a great deal of people decided to participate who knew nothing about it. They just happened to work in the building where this alleged assault took place. Now I'm going to say alleged just there, and I'm done saying alleged, because this happened. This abuse happened, and it's too specific from what the child brought up for it to not happen. So as the story goes, the child left their elective course, which was called a specials class in this building. They went to the bathroom by themselves. The hallway was empty. They walked into us into a bathroom stall where there were two stalls. It was apparently by the cafeteria, but there was no one in the cafeteria. So that should narrow down the time of day in which this took place. And then as he entered the stall itself, the school principal, who was a married man with two children, married to a female with two children, and his wife used to be an administrator at another elementary school in the same district, and no longer is, but he closed the door and then the principal yanked open the door behind the child and then entered the stall with him and then closed the door behind him and the child. I don't know a child that makes that up. That's too specific. The other thing with Title IX is the vast majority of sexual cases regarding assaults toward children from a staff member occur in bathrooms because there are few, if any, witnesses and there's no camera footage in a bathroom. So there's that. Again, it's typical. I mean, if it walks like a duck and it quacks like a duck and it smells like a duck, it's a duck. Then the child says that the that the principal in question here, Jason Mers, that's an image of him right there, that he he he is speaking through his teeth. This is what I was told that the child said in the actual investigation, that he asked the child to take off his pants, and the child said no, and Jason Mers responded now, through his teeth. That's only a that's a specific thing that a kid would say. Because, as I say in the article, they lack the vernacular to say things like he was being secretive, or he was trying to coerce me, or he was intimidating me, or whatever. I mean, he said it through his teeth, which we know what that means. It's a clinched jaw, you're talking through your teeth. Now, that's what that means, which means you're also trying to be quiet in a situation so you're not caught. It's too specific. No child sits around at their home and goes, Okay, tonight I'm gonna make up this story, and tomorrow I'm gonna spring this on everybody. No one does that. So that happens. The child says no, he replies now. The child tries to leave underneath the stall wall, next to the other stall, whichever way it was, and the principal sticks his leg out to keep him from moving and leaving the stall. Now you're talking about kidnapping. So then he proceeds to rub the child over his groin on his pants while he, the principal, plays with himself, either on top of his own pants or underneath his own pants. And then the child hears someone outside of the stall walking by, and then the principal, Jason Murr, hears the same thing, and then he looks at the child and says, Don't tell anybody about this or you're in trouble, or something to that effect. And then he says, Wash your hands to the kid. And the kid leaves without washing his hands. Something, something like that. And then that's it. So I was told that Jason Murz was interviewed in the process. I was told that there were inconsistencies with some of the things that he was saying. Uh, the superintendent was interviewed, and a boatload of teachers and people who work in the building were interviewed. And I was told that unfortunately, many of them circle the wagons around one another. And they all seek to just protect themselves and the environment as opposed to believing the child. Keeping in mind that in all of their presentations previously and in board meetings and everything else, they always say when a child makes a complaint, you should believe them and then get to the evidence. That's not what happened here. They immediately discredit the mother, they immediately discredited the child. And uh, I was even told that in the investigation, they don't, the teachers don't necessarily make fun of the child at all. They they say he's a good kid. Um, we just don't believe that this happened. Well, your belief doesn't matter because there's a great deal of people who probably know that this happened. Certainly the child, Jason Murr, the mother believes her child and has no reason not to. Jesus Christ knows that this happened. And I believe that it happened because I'm familiar with this, and they don't like the fact that I'm familiar with this and that I've written books about very similar things and what to do in certain situations and what not to do. That's why they detest me, is because I tell the truth. After I dropped the article, I dropped the article before, a year ago, before the school district came out with a formal announcement that he was placed on leave. That pissed them off like nobody's business. And I knew that it would, and I didn't care.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:56

Because I was getting ahead of it because I knew they were going to try to cover this up. So when a f when uh an administrator or anybody is placed on leave, certainly for something like this, there's an immediate criminal investigation. That criminal investigation lasted less than two months before it was dismissed. And in between that time, I contacted a lawyer and I used AI as well and ran through some scenarios and Ohio law and a number of other things. But I talked with a lawyer over the phone who has in who has participated in Title IX before, and I said, here's the situation. I said, apparently there's no security footage because the principal has access to the security cameras. So why would why would he leave active footage? He wouldn't.

SPEAKER_06 1:40:52

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:53

Excuse me, I'm starting to lose my voice. And then there were no other witnesses, apparently, other than the two of them. So in a case like that, if there's no security footage and there's no witnesses and it's a he said, he said case, what happens? And he says those are impossible to prosecute, which means there probably won't be criminal charges whatsoever. He said, let the Title IX process play out. But um, the likelihood of there being a conviction of any kind or even the Title IX finding him guilty of anything is is difficult because there has to be, excuse me, there has to be overwhelming evidence that it's happened, which would again mean that you would need security footage, you would need a witness, you would need another person in the past who's made a formal complaint against this person previously that would show that he's engaged in violent behavior towards students in the past. Now, subsequently, I've heard that he has engaged in violent behavior with children from former employees, and that that was not reported at the time, which it should have been. So that's a problem. Uh as all of this again was trans, but I I always kept that in my head, and I made a notation of that because I thought, okay, this is probably going to be the outcome. So during that time, the last summer, I was making open records requests for his emails and any communications that he was engaging in with the district. Because typically in Title IX, regarding such such severity of a case, you're not supposed to talk to anybody as the as the investigated employee. All communication is cut off. If you talk to anybody, it's the superintendent or the HR director. That's it. You don't talk to anybody else. They were they were acting as a district as if Jason Mers was not on administrative leave for sexually assaulting a minor. So much so that in some of these emails, Jason Mers emailed the superintendent and asked him if he could attend his son's sporting events during the summer, which just so happened to be on school grounds. And the superintendent said yes. Just email me and let me know, and then, you know, if somebody confronts you at one of these events, then you need to walk away and go home. But just let me know when you're going to be there and you're allowed to be there. That's not what you do during a Title IX investigation, during a criminal investigation, and certainly not regarding something as serious as this. There's a big difference between a teacher uh taking a test for a kid placed on administrative leave, which is terrible, but there's a big difference between that and being accused of sexual assault of a minor in a bathroom stall with a level of specificity that you can't possibly make up. So he was allowed to attend all of that, apparently. And apparently he even attended online meetings like Zoom calls and things like that. That's just based on what I got from my own open records requests. And then time passes. And then again, all the interviews apparently take place. And then after the interview process is done in any Title IX investigation, and I was interviewed for the process as well, lasted about two hours, and I gave the lawyer involved, um, the investigator involved, all the information I knew, open records requests, inconsistency and statements, bold-faced lies from the superintendent, a number of things. And it was a fun interview, and I enjoyed it thoroughly because I was professional and they were too. And they understood the severity of this also. And I asked, once they interviewed the child and the mother and and the the mother's advocate, I asked the advocate, I said, Did this investigator believe the child? And she said yes. She believes her. She believes him 100%. And and gave off the impression that this certainly happened, even though they're not supposed to really give off the impression. And the investigator, I don't believe, ever, of course, said anything like, Oh, I believe you. They certainly didn't say that to me. You know, they they were very professional and and non-par uh, you know, impartial throughout the entire process. But uh that was, you know, that was a big deal. And even before that interview took place, a forensic interview took place regarding the criminal investigation, and it was the same thing. The child willfully gave detail, didn't have to, you didn't have to pull it out of the kid, apparently. Um this particular forensic interviewer from a criminal standpoint was also a social worker at this, um, I believe, down in Cincinnati. And the child gave a level of specificity to them also that indicated to them that there's no doubt that they believe that this happened because they've interviewed hundreds of children in situations like this. And they were like, in some cases, apparently you have to pull this information out of kids. And I've learned that from my own education. Um, and then in other instances, the child's just like, nope, here's what happened, and it happened just like this, and here's exactly what was said, and this is how long the exchange occurred, and blah, blah, blah. And that's what the kid said. The kid was apparently interviewed a total of three times, twice from the Title IX investigator, months apart, and of course, first with the forensic interviewer, and the story never wavered, not once. So there's that. Ten months later, after the initiation of the entire thing, is when, around 10 months later, there's a few weeks before that, that's when the Title IX investigator who was assigned to the case takes all of their interviews and all of their information and they hand it over to what's called a decision maker. This is a separate person who's typically involved with another law firm somewhere else in the state. And then they review all of the information allegedly that the investigator conducted and received and compiled. And then they type up their own decision based on the evidence that was available. But like I said at the start, because there was no witness, there was no security footage, as far as the decision maker is concerned, it didn't happen. So they say, based on the evidence at hand, or a based on preponderance of evidence is typically verbiage that's used in a lot of these legal cases, is they say, we've determined that Jason Murrers is not guilty of any wrongdoing, that the school didn't violate Title IX and XYZ and you know, case closed. Then there's an appeal process where the advocate and the parent can read the decision-making thing and go through it and and make comments line by line if they want and appeal particular things that were said in the document. And I was told that they did that. And then I was even told that in the decision-making process, the decision maker who was a woman, actually blamed the mother in the process by saying it's very unusual that the mother would not report this immediately. Well, as it turns out, the child kept it from the mother for a couple of months after it happened in 2024. And then the mother immediately got the child and her into therapy where it was reported by Butler by Butler Behavioral Health, which is a mandated reported entity. And they have direct ties with Butler County Children's Services. And then they were told, and it's in writing in the very first substack, the piece of paper from the therapist who sent it to Child Protective Services and said, here's what the parent and the child told me, specifically the child. I've made a report and I'm contacting CPS and here's the date and XYZ. Now they even waited a couple of months before they did that, but they did it, and then that's when everything dropped dead. And the parent was under the impression that this was being criminally investigated and that this was being investigated and that they would be contacted, and they never were. That's why almost nine months passed before they ended up make filing a police report because they recognized that nothing was happening. So the decision maker in the Title IX process, as I was told, blamed the mother for not instantly going to the police the instant that she heard it from a child. But this is also a mother who doesn't trust the police, and why would she? There's no reason to. And she had a history with the police based off of an ex-boyfriend who was stalking her, and the police weren't taking the stalking seriously. And the guy ended up going to jail for stalking her, did years in jail, as a matter of fact. So she had no reason to trust the police. But she went through the right avenues, which is the secondary way of doing it, which is you tell mandated reporters who happen to be therapists, and then it runs up, runs up the chain. But that entire chain of command and all of that communication sits behind a subpoena. It's not public information and it and it just isn't in the state of Ohio. Not even to the parent or the child in the case. So an appeal took place. I was told they sent the appeal in, and then the appeal was rejected. And that's it. As soon as it was rejected, the superintendent came out with a letter to the public that said, We're excited to be bringing Jason Murz back as principal. We know a lot of you are excited. He was found that it was found that no wrongdoing occurred. So we have a reintroductory program for him to engage in, and he'll be back. And thanks for your understanding. Enjoy the rest of your day. I'm dismissed. And they also ran to the media. They ran to the media with that letter. They ran to Fox 19 in Cincinnati with that letter. They said, and again, uh just a quick blurb. And I sent my Substack articles to Fox 19 and the other news outlets around here, too, and I didn't get a single reply. Not one.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:20

No. That doesn't surprise me.

SPEAKER_01 1:51:23

Oh, of course. Their lawyers get a hold of it, and they're like, eh, this guy's got some specifics. We don't want to get mixed up in this. And they and they really don't. So local news, of course, there's your local news for you.

SPEAKER_05 1:51:35

Over on Rumble. Yeah, Ms. Melody says, I'm fuming right now. I'm right with you, Ms. Melody. I mean, Outcast, this makes me just as mad as it did a year ago when it first came out with the Expose Me, uh, Expose Them episode. I'm just I'm I'm I'm in awe how nobody's taking this little kid seriously, other than you and it the mom. But is this disgusting, outcast? It's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:02

Yeah, I agree, Jesse. And and uh judging by the reaction of our viewers, they feel the same way. Um I'm also really empathizing with uh music lover and three one three Boop Boy's comments, Evan over here, um, you know, about how they didn't even get a lot out of school to begin with. They found it to be busy work, lacking you know, depth. And you know, historical holes that we're missing. And they're, you know, you know when you're being gaslit even as a kid. So that so then you're questioning the value of school altogether, let alone you're putting your kids in harm's way. Now, I just want to think out loud here for a second while I sort out my thoughts. Bear with me, guys. You know, Sean, do you think it is a situation where they just want to they they want to protect the school system from lawsuits so they all have to rally around and protect to make sure? Or are they complicit? Are they are they surrounded by like-minded uh predatory type people so they they rally around each other? Or is it a situation where it really is a technical loophole where there's it's a he said she said. And if that's the case, um what gets me is I get that there shouldn't be cameras in the bathroom, of course, but why wouldn't you have a camera fixated on the doors of the bathroom, uh monitoring who's going in and out? So if a kid makes a claim that some kids beat him up in there, or if a teacher went in after him to to to uh intimidate and or sexually assault him, you could look at the time step and and see. Uh lastly, I want to say this too. Um, you know, I agree with you, the the details that the kid gives is uh to me is evidence. It's it's very, very clear. And just like anybody else that witnesses something that it goes against the public's narrative, let's say, just for the hypothetically, I hate to to downgrade this kid's story by bringing this up, but let's say uh a bigfoot sighting. I always have to ask myself, what does this individual have to gain? Nothing. They're not gonna make money off it. They're gonna be ridiculed. There's this kid doesn't you think that this kid wants to tell people that that that a teacher was alone with him and and tried to rub himself against him? He has nothing to gain. It'd be different, like even if the even if the school system said, Well, we believe the kid had a vendetta against the teacher because he gave him you know the principal because of this, such and such a reason. Okay, maybe you could consider it, but they don't even bother to even come up with a counter story. They just say, it doesn't count, we don't believe it, you know. I mean, so I I kind of threw a lot out there, Sean. I'm sorry, if there's anything you want to comment on, but I mean, do do you do you see a specific reason why they rally around these principles, people like this, as opposed to actual real justice and vetting going on to find out the truth here? Why are they so blind to justice? I I I I just wondering what your thoughts are on that. I don't get it.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:43

I've got an idea, but go ahead, Sean.

SPEAKER_01 1:54:46

So I'll answer your first question, which I'll answer it with a resounding yes, it's all of the above. It's a loophole problem, it's a law problem, it's a Title IX problem, it is a hypocritical problem. We believe the child. Believe the child, everybody, always believe them, take them seriously, and then it happens, and then they you instantly see who everybody really is. You see their true colors, and you're talking about administrators, and it's not all of them, a lot of them stayed quiet. A lot of school teachers stayed dead quiet because they want nothing to do with this. But a great deal of them showed up to the board meeting after I wrote that first article and they came after me and they made fun of me. Including a child developmental psychologist in town, this young gal who goes, Well, I've worked with Jason Murr and I've never seen anything wrong. And I'm sitting here, I'm sitting at home and I'm watching this and I'm going, These effing idiots are walking right into it. They're walking right into it.

SPEAKER_03 1:55:53

The reason she hasn't seen it because you're is because she's not a little boy. Right. Right, exactly. She wasn't there.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:01

Again, I'm not sure. She wasn't there and she's not a little boy. That's right. I've worked with sexual predators in the business. When they got caught, again, I got a pretty good gaydar. I mean, I can figure out, you know, I can figure out some bad behavior from some people. But when it happened, I went, well, that makes sense. But at the time, when I when when they're working in the building, I'm not seeing anything. And I and I I really didn't. But it wasn't until after the fact when I was like, oh yeah, that makes sense. But the answer is all of the above. The second question was about the cameras. And you don't do this during a Title IX, which is what the Talawanda City School District did. And it was explained apparently in the Title IX investigation. I explained it. I think I'm I'm sure other people did. Somebody had to have. I read it here on the on this. When you I was told that Jason Murr openly admitted that he knows where the cameras are are put because he was there when the building was being built. That's not unusual. That would make sense that a principal would know where all of the cameras are located. And there was a camera located outside of the bathroom that shows the bathroom. But he has access to the cameras, just like every administrator has, which means he can delete the footage the second it happens. Not to mention, at the time in 2024, the cameras apparently operated like hunting cameras, where they would roll over on themselves every 30 days. And then during the Title IX investigation, it dropped down to every 14 days. And then they dropped it down to 10 days. You're tampering with evidence.

SPEAKER_06 1:58:49

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:58:50

You're I mean, you're you're throwing away, it's like throwing away guns after you've been accused of shooting someone to death while you're under investigation. You're not cleaning the gun necessarily. You're you're I mean you're almost getting rid of it.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:05

But you're you're kind of cleaning it at the same time. Recording over the evidence.

SPEAKER_05 1:59:10

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:10

Yeah, it was beyond suspicious, which means even by the time the child had told the mother in 2024, and the mother went to the police, let's assume that uh occurred, which it didn't, but had it occurred, it wouldn't have mattered. There wouldn't, the footage would have been gone. Jason Murz would have denied it, and we would have been right back in this situation.

SPEAKER_06 1:59:32

Right.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:33

This is why these environments are not safe, because they don't keep the footage on purpose. And they always roll it over on purpose, and they say, Well, we don't have the bandwidth, or we don't have the storage capacity, so we don't keep it. And you know, this is just the way it is in all our buildings, this way it's always been done, and they might have a policy on the record, or they might not have a policy on the record, it might just be some unwritten rule. Yeah, but there was no camera footage, and then of course, like I said, they tampered with it. Um, I forget the third part of your of your of your question. What would be the reason?

SPEAKER_05 2:00:07

Yeah, you're you're talking about what would be the reason for them to uh to cover these things up and cover, you know, wash each other of uh of any wrongdoing because image protection is their number one concern, but what they don't know is that after any Title IX investigation, certainly in the state of Ohio, I looked it up, you can look up the law real easily, is that a school district can still remove, and the in the and the school board can still remove any employee based on an allegation after an investigation, even when the decision maker in a Title IX process says there was no wrongdoing because there's not enough evidence.

SPEAKER_01 2:00:49

They still can remove them, and it's said in many cases that happens because if they re-offend, then the school district is screwed. Then you're talking about another Title IX investigation, which by the way, is a fun fact Title IX investigations cost anywhere from eighty to a hundred thousand dollars apiece.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:10

They aren't cheap for the school.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:12

You're talking about serious, yeah, for the school district. So you're talking about serious legal fees for the school district, which they cannot stand. And they always, of course, want to end up on the right side of things, so they think.

SPEAKER_06 2:01:22

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:01:23

So in the state of Ohio, they could have cut him loose, but they were so they're so hellbent on trying to make me look bad, the kid look bad, the mother looked bad, and anybody who supported them looked like we were all just scheming all of this together, which goes back to your point. Nobody schemes this together, and who goes to the wall with the length of an investigation like this that lasted 10 months? Nobody who's lying. Not a mother who's trying to pull her kids out of the school district, and certainly not a child, and this is an important point, which is why Jason Murr effed with the wrong kid. This is a Jesus-loving family. This is a Jesus-knowing child. He speaks to Jesus, and Jesus speaks to him. His mother is a single mother who has taught her children good touch and bad touch before this happened. They knew what it was. The mother told me once also, and I've talked with a child and the mother, but she told me that there was a situation in the bathroom where another child, who's kind of handicapped, not something like that, was in the bathroom and he was walking away from the stall with his pants around his ankles, and her son was in the bathroom and looked at the kid, a fellow student, and said, You need to pull your pants up before you come out of the bathroom stall. You're not supposed to walk out with your pants down. Don't do that. And don't stand at the sink with your pants around your ankles. He had to explain the child had to explain this to this other child in a bathroom. Could have been the same bathroom. Point is the kid has his head on straight. Not a disciplined problem. Gets frustrated in school when he doesn't understand something. Who doesn't? It's it that there's nothing abnormal about the child in the slightest. And the family talk about Jesus and and and have dinner together and talk about Jesus all the time. Here are good people, here are bad people. You can't trust everybody. I mean, it's they have real good conversations.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:32

So it sounds like they were preparing the kid for anything that might come up out of school, just like at you know, as I did with my kids, you know, hey, stranger danger, all those kinds of things. We always talk to our kids about these kinds of things. Learning about uh, you know, look out, watch your back, watch your six. That's what I tell them now. They're growing up. Um I'm curious.

SPEAKER_01 2:03:54

And this child one more detail, sorry, real quick. This child, this child had been had been briefly molested by his cousin when he was when he was three. So he knew. I mean, he knew bad times, right? You're not supposed to do. And his mother explained it to him and said, That's why we don't go over there anymore, because this individual was also young, but he may have been nine or something like that, but he didn't necessarily know what he was doing. Um, but either way, uh, that happened. But again, this is why Jason Murrers messed with the wrong kid. Because there's a past, there's knowledge, there's the truth, and uh, and he loves his mother and he loves his family, and his mother loves him, and you have trust there, and no kid makes this up. So is is the next thing that sorry, one one last thing. I just thought about this, and then I and then I'm done, I promise. The the the the social consequence of this is the last piece, and and that's what has to happen, which is, and it has happened to an extent, is during the Title IX investigation, the moment that it even kicked off, people started leaving the district. People started leaving that school, the head secretary quit. Two nurses left. I mean, people started jumping ship, educational assistants left, one educational assistant was retaliated against because they participated in the Title IX investigation, told the investigator that they were moved to a separate building at the conclusion of the school year after the Title IX kicked off. Because again, her husband was also running for school board at the time. This uh the staff member who was retaliated against, and they still work in the district, to my knowledge. But either way, uh, you know, that that these are not the actions. I mean, you don't jump ship if you didn't do anything wrong, and you don't jump ship if you think the environment is safe. You jump ship because there's bad things going on, and so next comes the social consequence, which is what fool is going to sign their child up to go to that school? And there's open enrollment in this district, as there is in many Ohio districts, which means you can enroll your child in any other elementary school in the district that you want, or any other school in Ohio that you want. And so it would be interesting to see how many people actually enroll their children in a building where there's an accused pedophile who's the school principal.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:34

Yeah. My question now then is today, current date, where is the child? Is he what school is he at, and how is he doing? Um, and and the mother, how's she feeling after the uh he's been reinstated back into uh the principal position position at the school?

SPEAKER_01 2:06:55

So at the time, the same year of the abuse, the summer of 2024, the mother tried to get the child removed from the building and transferred to a different building, and her request was denied without any question. It was just denied. And she wrote safety concern as the reason, but she was never asked what the safety concern was by the superintendent, who apparently admittedly reviews all of these cases when it comes to a uh a transfer request. So that occurred, which was suspicious to say the least.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:32

Yeah, they're a cahoot, right?

SPEAKER_01 2:07:34

Well, it's not that he would know that there was abuse that had taken place, but the mother also never verbalized the abuse to the superintendent, so there was a lot of ambiguity there.

SPEAKER_06 2:07:45

Right.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:45

But again, why would a mother do that and write safety concern if something didn't happen? So then um he ended up he ended up leaving after this Title IX. So last summer at the beginning of the school year last year, he they changed him to a different elementary school in the same district, unfortunately. Um he survived and still and still at the at the next building he went to called out immoral behavior. Immoral behavior from teachers, immoral behavior from other people. There were staff members trying to get in the child's business, and he would look at him and say, Mind your own business. He's saying this to adults who are trying to be nosy with the kid. So he's a he's a he's a good young man. But now the mother since then has been looking into other schools in the county and a number of other places to send, has filled out applications. Sometimes, unfortunately, with these applications, there's a fee that you have to pay, and there's no guarantee that you'll get your child in. Um, but she's continuing to shop around for other schools, and she's had some good leads, which is great. But I'm gonna ask that you pray for this woman. Her name is Danielle, the mother, and you pray for her son, whose name is Weyland. That you pray for them, and even Weyland's younger sister named Gracelyn, that you pray for them and that they escape this place because she works full-time, she works very hard, and um, and she's away from her children longer than she'd want to be. And she has two other adult age children from another a previous marriage. But um uh just pray for them that there's protection elsewhere, not in this, not in this town and not in this district. Even the police during the Title IX investigation engaged in very sketchy behavior with her, staking out her house. Um they, of course, charged her with particular crimes where she didn't engage in a crime, but they were trying to get her in jail. That's a long story. Um, I assisted her through that process to a great extent, and then uh, because once the system gets a hold of you, they don't let go, but she managed to get out of all of it, which is great. They tried to charge her with child endangerment. I mean, there was retaliation that took place here. And it was crystal, oh, of course, a hundred percent. Yep, and that was crystal clear, and to my knowledge, they that was brought up in the Title IX. And I certainly contributed to that and brought that to the intention of the investigator throughout the entire process, and that was all a part of the investigation. But the decision maker was like, nope, no intimidation, no retaliation. Uh, not during a Title IX. So this was, you know, it had to do with something else. And it's like, wait a minute, it's happening during the exact same time that this is happening. So to me, it's afraid that they escape.

SPEAKER_05 2:10:53

Yeah, like uh, we have a situation of government protecting government, you know, the the police protecting the school. And uh it that that sounds very familiar, kind of just like what they did here in uh in Oxford after that shooting. Uh they made sure, you know, the uh the the people in charge at the top made sure everybody else's asses were covered, and all the blame went on to the parents. Pretending they did none of the uh, you know, that that everything just slipped through their hands, but they don't want the public to know. But yet the public still sees it around here. Uh to me, it sounds like they're just covering for each other because they know there's their, you know, work government work has got to stay together, right? I don't know if that's their mentality, but that's what I feel from it all. Uh this is disgusting.

SPEAKER_01 2:11:41

It is. And let me mention this, because like I said, they they immediately ran with the superintendent drafted the letter after the whole thing was finished. And then the very next month, it was in March, if I'm not mistaken, March or April. I think March, March. Uh school board meeting took place, and the school principal, Jason Merce, his contract expires in the end of July of this year. They decided to re-up it as soon as the investigation was over. Gave him a five-year extension on an administrative contract, which is unflipping heard of. You don't give administrators five-year contracts, they're typically year to year, two at the most. And then they gave him a pay raise on the pay scale. So he's making$117,000 in change.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:31

Wow. This is disgusting out there.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:33

And only one board member, only one board member voted no.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:37

Was that Don King?

SPEAKER_01 2:12:38

Three voted yes. Dawn Dawn King. Yep. Bless her heart. I went to high school with her, and she's the only truth teller on the whole board. Everybody else is just a colossal piece of trash. But three of them immediately said yes. They accepted it. And then one of them, one of the newer board members who's a complete coward, they're all cowards, but he's he's a he's a special kind of coward. He decided to not even show up because his wife is the lead lawyer for Miami University here in town. And they get the agenda, the board agenda beforehand. So he knew that they were going to have to vote on his contract extension and bringing him back. And he decided to not even show. He decided to not even show up to vote and say no, or maybe we should discuss this in executive session, or maybe we should prolong this or whatever. And the superintendent, being the pathological liar he is, he told Don King in a previous board meeting, even could have been that board meeting, that they had to vote on administrative contracts right then and there in March. And that's not their that's not their board policy. Their district policy is you have to vote in June, not March. So then Don King had the superintendent redact his statement from the April meeting in or from the March meeting in the April meeting and proving yet again that the guy's a liar. And it's like, okay, how many times can a superintendent be proven to be a liar on the record before somebody does something? But when you don't have the majority on the board and the rest of the board members are liars and they're all in this criminal organization together, that's when you're outnumbered, which means your only option is to walk away and walk away permanently. And that's why I always say it on my show, and I beat this dead horse constantly. The only thing that's gonna sh that that will that will completely change the system, and is you have to destroy it. And the only way you destroy it is everybody unenrolls at the same time.

SPEAKER_06 2:14:39

Yep.

SPEAKER_01 2:14:40

And then you throw everybody into a tailspin. It's the only thing in the business of education that has never happened. We saw that it's a nationwide exodus all at once.

SPEAKER_05 2:14:50

We saw a little bit of that during the uh during COVID, John. Remember all that? Yeah, and everybody so many millions of families went to homeschooling. Uh, this is complete insanity. To me, it sounds like they are uh with that extension outcast. It sounds to me like they took the whole case, took all the accusations, took all the arrows and all the slings, and shoved it right back in that little kid's face with the extension, with the money raise, with uh the unseen, unheard, you know. Previously unseen type of uh uh extension to his contract. That's what it looks like. The whole district did to that little kid and said, There you go, you little kid, for trying to to mess with us. It's insane.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:38

There's this too, and this is just a numbers game, and outcast my apologies. Um, but and I think it's I think it's important is that unfortunately we live in a society where the details don't matter. That first article about Jason Murr got 24,000 views. I mean, people in neighboring towns and counties heard about this, and even approached the mother. The mother's been in certain situations in public where she's overheard people talking about it, and she's going, That's my son. Her own hairdresser heard about it. Heard about that article and read that article before she went to get her hair done once. And she goes, Yeah, I know, that's my son. And she goes, What? And she was like, Yeah. And the hairdresser goes, I read that article. The next article I wrote about it, uh, whatever it was, uh a week or so a few weeks later, something like that. It got like, I don't know, a couple thousand. And then I wrote another one about about uh again the the district and their actions, and it got a thousand. And then the one that I wrote a couple of weeks ago about the conclusion of this whole case got less than a thousand, I think. And then this one that I just wrote through his teeth got whatever, just over 500. So there's censorship going on, certainly, because it it's being moved around Facebook, but then the local Facebook people on all these groups censor it because they don't want to read it and they don't care, or they just delete it. But it just, you know, again, anytime a story that is true gets longer, you would think that there would be continued interest in it the further it goes because you're gonna get more detail that's gonna lead a person to making a logical decision. Uh but you know, this is the head in the sand mentality, this is the brainwashing, and man is it thick. And yeah, schools are the home of brainwashing, after all. So why would they want to know about the environment that they're working in even more and the people they have to work around? I can't imagine anybody taking Jason Murray seriously in any meeting or anything else. And this is the individual, again, responsible for evaluating so-called educators. But that's that's my rant on that. I'm I'm done. I'm sorry, Jason.

SPEAKER_05 2:18:10

I'll guess let's hear some uh some thoughts from you, brother, before we got to get going.

SPEAKER_03 2:18:14

Well, you know, it it makes me think of like, you know, in Oakland County, Michigan, here I've heard it said that it's impossible to sue for malpractice, that this the the hospitals are set up in such a way that they protect their own and you can't you can't get anywhere. They will make it impossible. This is like educational malpractice in in your area. And um the thing that's just uh heartbreaking about well, the this is what's heartbreaking about our whole whole culture, and this is this guy's just an example of it, I'm I'm afraid. Um we've got a situation where not the best or the brightest are elevated or put into positions uh to to lead or be uh community leaders. It is the the most compromised, the most morally corrupted people that are chosen. Why? Because they're the most controllable. I don't know Jason Mers, and I I really don't have any right to make a judgment on him, but I will say that uh where there's smoke, there's fire, usually. And um I see this guy as somebody who's probably completely incompetent, but they know that they can control him because they know he has proclivities, and those proclivities are his weakness, which gives them their control that they need over him. So so that's why justice is not being served, you know, or or the right thing is not being done here for one of many reasons. Um but it's heartbreaking because this kid is the victim. Um the good news, Sean, and uh even though you're being sha it sounds like you're being shadow banned, uh you have documented this so thoroughly that when this happens again, which is not if it's when, the public might not be so forgiving next time. Maybe there'll have to be three three different accusations, but this guy's not gonna stop because he got away with it. He thinks he's invincible, he thinks he's untouchable, he thinks he's indispensable to those who control him. And this is gonna make him reckless. Um you know, and and I don't mean to pick on people's appearances, but the the whole bow tie, the the the candy stripe bow tie, the whole thing, the image he's got going on. To me, that's like John Wayne Gacy dressed as a clown. It is it it it it it's a type of person I think that that tries to look uh happy and disarming and and I'm I'm you know, I'm I'm just a you know cuddly dude and really they're they're a predator. And um i I can smell it a mile away. Um I uh justice is slow, uh propaganda is fast and easy. Let's hope that over time and because of your due diligence to document this story so thoroughly that we have the backstory if this rears its head again. I hate to think that there has to be two or three victims for there to be justice, but I'm hoping uh well, I'm thinking that at some point this guy will become a a not an asset, but he's gonna become a liability because he's because he's got a they you know they covered for him and he got away with it. He's not his his proclivities aren't gonna change. Uh I mean, unless he uh gets born again or something and God transforms his heart. But my guess is that this this uh this this diabolical uh attempt at assaulting a child, that's not gonna go away. He's got this in his in it, this is who he is, this isn't the fiber of his being. And he's uh he's he's gonna he'll strike again. And he's been emboldened by those who protect him. Uh the whole thing's set to fail. Um I know that you'll do your part, Sean, because when that happens again, you'll you'll you'll bring all the the evidence from the past and say, This is what you guys ignored the first time. Um so I'm glad that you're out there as a watchman on the wall, as you always are. Um and I'm sorry that this case isn't going the way we we'd like it to on the upfront, but I do believe that in the long run, this guy's gonna hang himself. Just give enough rope and he's gonna he's gonna do this again. I can see it in his eyes. Um I don't know if that is good commentary or bad commentary, but that's where some of my thoughts are. Um as always, the people in the comments are making some really good points, and I agree with all of them. Um, this is I just feel bad for the kid. I mean, to to these are the type of uh soul wounds or these the the type of uh betrayals and hurt that can carry with somebody a uh uh a lifetime. And those pains can turn into resentment and or unforgiveness in his heart, which can be a foothold for the enemy. Uh fortunately he's got a good mom, and uh he you know, if she can keep him close to to God, I think that maybe he's gonna be just fine in the long run. But uh, you know, you think about it, she's a savvy mother and she says, look out for these things, and he's spotting them, and he's going, Hey, right here, right here. Other kids they have they have checked out parents who don't really get involved or don't use too teachable moments to talk about their kids uh to these about these topics, and these are the ones that go to school and get abused and don't talk about it. So um, you know, this is unfortunately a painful reminder of uh the fact that she's done a good job to teach this kid to spot this stuff. Um, anyways, just some just some random thoughts off the top of my head. I hope that has some value.

SPEAKER_01 2:22:51

You're right. And um to add on to it, I was told last summer by the mother that there is another victim. And as it turns out, the mother of the of that child talked with the mother in this case and broke down in front of her and said, I started to witness the same kind of behavior with my son when he would when he would come back home from school and then broke down in front of Danielle in this particular case and said that SOB did this to my son too, didn't he? He must have done this to my son too. Wow. She was asked to participate in the Title IX, and either I was told didn't, or briefly did for like a minute, and then said, I don't want to participate because this didn't happen to my child. Now, why would a mother do that? As it turns out, the mother of this child happens to be in a profession where they were a mandated reporter by law. Which means if they suspected it with their own child at the time last year, and didn't report it as a mandated reporter, they'd be out of a job. So again, it's this thing that gets dangled over everybody's heads of your mortgage payment, your job. There's no life beyond that. Just do what you're told, keep your head.

SPEAKER_03 2:24:26

That's how they got how many people they get to take a vaccine they didn't want to take using that kind of that method. Incentives.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:31

Yep, everything. Yeah, incentives too. Yeah, get the cookie, get the big Big Mac, get a coffee, get a get whatever it is, get the free stuff. But yeah, dangling that carrot, garret, uh the stick, uh, whatever it was gonna be, and people people fell for it outcast. Oh, this is disgusting.

SPEAKER_03 2:24:48

I mean, I mean I mean, uh not to go off on a tangent, but I mean, this is the system that they've created on purpose. Yeah. They they're the they're the pharaohs and we're the we're the uh the slaves of an Egypt. We are so concerned with with trying to pay off the debt that they created for us through their predatory lending practices that we're we're on a hamster wheel trying to save a nut for the future, just in case things go awry when we're old, and that people are terrified to lose their job because that's what they've changed our focus to, not what is right or what is wrong, what is just we focus on self-preservation, and that that's the cruel uh reality of what they've done to us in our culture is that they've they've stolen, they've robbed our humanity in place of greed and things that we can see and touch as opposed to things that we can feel and believe. That makes sense. It does.

SPEAKER_01 2:25:38

And that's biblical, is it not? Amen. Doesn't I mean goodness gracious, yeah. Selling your soul for a you know a couple of coins, that's no good.

SPEAKER_05 2:25:48

Shekels, some shekels, right? Well, listen, uh what another night, Dr. Sean Brooks. I appreciate everything you brought. I mean, now you got me all fired up again. Because the last time he was here, uh, we all thought he was going down, it was over, he got fired. Uh, you know, everybody was cheering, and now this comes back. And and again, I'm not surprised by what the school, the administration, the superintendent, the way they're reacting. And um, I'm I'm not surprised by any of it. Why, why, why would I be? I mean, they they've given us so much uh nonsense over the years that I've pretty much become uh numb to it all. And I know that they where's the integrity? I don't see any of it at all. I I don't know. I just want to say thank uh again. Uh Outcast said you're the watcher on the watchman on the wall, and uh there's it's perfect. Uh I I can't even you know, even uh I can't top that outcast. What I'm saying. He is the watchman on the wall, and I'm glad you're coming over here to share it with us. Um and you know, you're gonna stay busy on the case. I hope some other people in your town start picking up on this. Um, I hope it makes them uh as mad as it makes me. Uh this is just disgusting. I can't I can't believe it. Uh but I gotta believe it.

SPEAKER_01 2:27:02

I think, yeah, I think the van I'll be honest with you, is as crazy as they are. I think that the I think the vast majority of the people have a pretty darn good idea that this probably happened. I think the vast majority are afraid also. And so basically you hear individuals attacking people like me are attacking other individuals, and I'm not even on Facebook, so I don't even read any of these posts, but you know, they've they've done their fair share on on me and other people, but it's like Jason said, Alcast said here that the the the business of um feeling bad for the child and and the mother and everybody in this situation is a very real thing, and like I said, you people should pray for them without a doubt, but I also have no doubt that Jesus is in control of this one and he's not gonna let it go. Yep. Because again, you're you're yeah, millstones, boys.

SPEAKER_05 2:27:55

That's right. We've got to tie one around that boy's neck, toss it over. I can use my boat and my chain. So yeah. Um just let me come along with you. Oh, for sure. Oh, that's crazy. Well, listen, um, what where where do you want people to go to to visit your site, your substack, your website, your podcast? Let them know where uh they should come and visit you. Uh starting tomorrow, uh, or maybe tonight.

SPEAKER_01 2:28:19

Everything is on AmericanEducation FM.com. All the links are there, documentation there. Uh, you know, I spent an episode a week ago talking about a lot of these headlines of all of these people and education prof in the education profession and first responders and everybody else just dropping dead from the COVID shots. And they're never saying it, of course, in any of these news headlines. But you know, there are proven cures for cancer, and they're out there, and some of them exist on my website. And I would encourage people to follow Dr. Maccus as well. Dr. William Maccus, he's starting a center in Florida, Cancer Center in Florida. Uh, but you know, follow him on X and and read his content as well. But there's there's cancer protocols out there.

SPEAKER_05 2:29:04

Yeah, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 2:29:05

So all over the counter, and I would encourage anybody to look into that, and of course, any other subject that I discuss, geopolitics and the education system and the corrupt system and all of that, and alternatives and healthy alternatives to all of it.

SPEAKER_05 2:29:17

So yeah, that's what I like about your show. You get into all everything, not just education, you guys, but uh your show's been on fire lately, out uh it's what I'm saying. It's been a great show. I've been listening to it in the morning and then uh prepare for our shows. And you know, uh it's it it's it's a good way to compliment what we do here. So I appreciate you. Uh Alcast, any final words for him or are you all set with that?

SPEAKER_03 2:29:41

God bless you, Sean. We appreciate you so very much. We can't say it enough. Um, we thank you for, like you said, your obedience and your willingness to come on to our show and share these this information with our viewers. Uh, we love the synergy that we have between our two shows. And uh, I don't know, we look forward to having you on next time too. So God bless you, brother. Uh, thank you for your strength, thank you for your courage, thank you for your vigilance. Uh, you never let us down. You are the watchman on the wall. God bless you.

SPEAKER_01 2:30:08

That's right. Thanks, guys. I I appreciate that. And again, I I you know I I couldn't do what I'm doing here, of course, if it wasn't for you guys and your platform. You've been very kind to me over the years. I greatly appreciate it. Uh, you know, getting all these stories out and this information out as well. So the the role that you guys play in this is equal to mine, without a doubt. And uh I'm glad that you know we're fighting all this together at the same time. Awesome. So, yeah, important stuff.

SPEAKER_05 2:30:33

I appreciate it. Music Lover says it's always good having brothers paying attention to each other's battlefronts. We can't possibly keep up with each of them alone. Amen to that. Music lover, thank you so much. So, yes, all right, brother, brother on the wall. We'll talk to you soon. And uh check him out of AmericanEducationFM.com. Go check him out right now. Excellent. Man, that was really good, Outcast. Look at that. Got me all fired up with me.

SPEAKER_03 2:30:58

Always is. Always is. I mean, he's he's he's brilliant, he's articulate, he's principled, he's he's everything we need in this fight. So yeah, God bless him. And thank you for discovering him. I mean, and it's as far as I'm concerned, I didn't know who he was until you sent me, you know, links to his podcast. So, you know, you you know, you could be just chasing around the uh what who the uh uh the Sean Ryans of the world. You're you're always digging a little, you're always digging a little deeper for the real people doing the real work. And uh thank you, Jesse, for for finding the good ones out there.

SPEAKER_05 2:31:30

Well, yeah, no, I appreciate that. And it's when I hear them, it's like dang, I want to talk to them. You know what I mean? Uh if I hear if I smell BS, then uh I'm not putting, you know, I don't want any part of it, but uh uh it's crazy. Look at music lover. He says she says, He's how I found you guys. That's crazy. I've I always wondered, yeah. Um, Deb Santo, she says, uh love Dr. Sean Brooks. Another great show, guys. Thank you. Thank you, Deborah. Um so much uh so much going on out there, outcast. Listen, we've we've gone long, we've got to cut this one off now, is what I'm saying. So uh what are your final thoughts uh before we head out?

SPEAKER_03 2:32:07

I'll try to make it real brief here. Um I had some moments last week where I felt, I guess, disobedient to God. And God immediately started talking to me through other people and pointing out scripture to me, and it just blew my mind. So here's I'm just gonna share some scripture with you guys. Uh hopefully it encourages you to, I mentioned in my my opening prayer to be obedient to God, not out of like fear, but out of the the concept that you're in a relationship with uh a loving savior who wants you to have the best life possible. And going back to your old ways of sinful things that you know you shouldn't be doing is not uh is not a way to cultivate a good relationship. Uh James 122, but be doers of the word and not hearers only, deceiving yourselves. Luke 11, 28. But he said, Blessed rather are those who hear the word of God and keep it. John 14, 23, Jesus answered him, If anyone loves me, he will keep my word, and and my father will love him, and he will come to him and make our home with him. Wow, okay, so that means God's going to make his home within you, within your body, and the holy with the indwelling of the Holy Spirit. Joshua 1 8, be careful to do according to all that is written in it, for then you will make your way uh he, I'm sorry, you will make your ways prosperous, and then you will have good success. Ecclesiastes 12 13. Now all has been heard, here is the conclusion of the matter. Fear God and keep his commands, for this is the duty of all mankind. First John 5 3. In fact, this is love for God to keep his commands, and his commands are not burdensome. So I hope that to hit somebody tonight that has been struggling with something or feel like that they've taken a step back. God loves you, he forgives you. He once you're grafted into the family, you cannot be disinherited. You are grafted into the family of Abraham, but he wants you to live a fuller life than as opposed to what you were living before you knew him. So uh we all do it. Our brains are hardwired for for repetitive natures. Um, we have to view it as a computer that needs to be rewired through the word of God and the and the love of Jesus Christ and and and living out that life. So that's my final thoughts for tonight, Jesse. I hope that that hits somebody like those scriptures hit me. Um God bless you guys and uh just stay vigilant and keep pull pressing back towards God. If you drift away, run right back to him. He's got open arms, he's ready for you when you want to return. So that's that's what I'll say for tonight. Awesome, brother. Yeah, short enough.

SPEAKER_05 2:34:32

No, it's good, it's good. Um I agree. I mean, look at everybody saying thank you guys. Uh, amen. Love the show. Uh the how the uh Amen. I love how the Lord led you to answer, answer from his word. That was from Music Lover. Yes.

SPEAKER_03 2:34:48

There was more stuff than that. I didn't tell it all, but there was other things that happened too, but yeah, he kept he kept communicating extremely clear to me. Even my daily devotional today was reaffirming that.

SPEAKER_05 2:34:57

Good. Well, listen, you know, we we have to we're messing up. When we're all messing up, you got to run right back to him, all right? That's where it's at because he knows we're gonna be out here messing around and messing up, and you know, whether intentionally or unintentionally, just get back to him. Okay. I find myself doing that stuff all the time, sometimes outcast too. And uh there's seasons in this stuff. We just gotta keep at it. Uh, don't, don't, don't let it get you down. Just get back to him, get back into his word, is what I'm saying, you guys. So it again gets us all. Uh, don't worry too much about it. Just just stay on point, stay on mission. So listen, I just want to say uh a big shout out to everybody who's out there supporting the show tonight. Um I want you guys to go to Discord, all right? Join our Discord. There's some stuff going on in there. We need more of you guys in there. The link is down in the description of the show tonight. Click it, it's fun. Uh, isn't that right, music lover? Everybody's out there having a good time. So um just go out there and do it. Trust me. You'll have fun with it. Uh, also, uh big, big thanks. Uh, big shout out to Dr. Sean Brooks tonight from AmericanEducation FM.com podcast. All right, go check that out. Look at his sub stack, it's it's excellent. All right. If you guys want to become a sponsor of the show, you can do that on a monthly basis. There might be some incentives for you if you do that. Not gonna tell you much more about that yet. Outcast, we're almost there. We're almost there, outcast. Uh, listen, wherever you listen to this later on audio, please try to live give us a five-star rating or review if we are worth it. Over on iTunes, uh Spotify, Castbox. Uh, there's so many pocket casts, all of them. They're all like we're on all those, is what I'm saying. We're on everything. Um, listen. Thanks to you, Outcast. Uh, thanks for all the uh the chat room people, the moderators. We have Ms. Melody, music lover Jack Pine, Trusty Turnip over there on Pill.net. Um, just thank you guys so much for doing what you're doing. It's it's tough to do it without you guys, alright? So I'm gonna release a scratching right now on uh Pill.net. And there it goes. You guys have fun with that. Listen, join us here live every Monday night, about seven o'clock, about nine o'clock-ish. We're trying to. Uh it always goes late outcast. It's crazy. Wyatt, what's going on, brother? He says, Thanks, guys. Gotta listen again tomorrow. That's right. Get back there. Listen, do not be uh what I'm trying to say is don't be threatened by the mainstream media fear campaigns, alright? We talked about that earlier in the sign ups and all that stuff that did that they do. Rescue those in darkness around you, do not comply with unjust laws, mandates, or Regulations and trust your gut always because that's God talking to you. Listen, stand firm in the truth, start sharpen your discernment, and don't forget who you serve. That's a big one. God bless and stay dangerous, the brothers and sisters. Stay dangerous.